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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 04:56 PM
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Schindlers Sell Supporters Email's to Conservative Mailing Firm
Pardon if this is a dupe. From the NYT:

WASHINGTON, March 28 - The parents of Terri Schiavo have authorized a conservative direct-mailing firm to sell a list of their financial supporters, making it likely that thousands of strangers moved by her plight will receive a steady stream of solicitations from anti-abortion and conservative groups.

"These compassionate pro-lifers donated toward Bob Schindler's legal battle to keep Terri's estranged husband from removing the feeding tube from Terri," says a description of the list on the Web site of the firm, Response Unlimited, which is asking $150 a month for 6,000 names and $500 a month for 4,000 e-mail addresses of people who responded last month to an e-mail plea from Ms. Schiavo's father. "These individuals are passionate about the way they value human life, adamantly oppose euthanasia and are pro-life in every sense of the word!"

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Executives of Response Unlimited declined to comment. Gary McCullough, director of the Christian Communication Network and a spokesman for Ms. Schiavo's parents, confirmed that Mr. Schindler had agreed to let Response Unlimited rent out the list as part of a deal for the firm to send an e-mail solicitation raising money on the family's behalf.

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Mr. Sheldon - whose father, the Rev. Lou Sheldon, founder of the Traditional Values Coalition, has also sent appeals urging support for Ms. Schiavo - apparently played a dual role as a partner in RightMarch.com, which is working with the anti-abortion activist Randall Terry, and as a broker for Response Unlimited. Mr. Sheldon did not respond to phone calls yesterday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/29/politics/29donate.html?pagewanted=print&position=&oref=login
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queeg Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 04:57 PM
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1. it's all about the money
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 04:59 PM
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2. What they get...
Is that this firm will agree to solicit money for the family through their larger email list, for free, I suppose.

*sigh*
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:21 PM
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15. And politics! Makes me sick!
:puke:
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 04:59 PM
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3. And people accused the husband about
Edited on Tue Mar-29-05 05:00 PM by NC_Nurse
being after money. These people are being used big time by these "pro-life" terrorists like Terry and they don't even see it. How can they be so blind?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 04:59 PM
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4. $$$$$$$$$$$$ Save Teri! Now watch this drive.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:05 PM
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10. LOL! Good one Bluebear. So true!
First we hear these parents are selling (SELLING!!) tapes of their daughter in her vegetative state.

Now, we hear they're selling the mailing list.

I have come to the conclusion that these two trolls have absolutely no shame, and they have absolutely no respect for their daughter's humanity or her privacy.

What repulsive, opportunistic creeps.

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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:14 PM
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26. Ha
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:01 PM
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5. Robert and Mary Schiavo lassie faire' entrepreneurs....
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GodHelpUsAll2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:55 PM
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32. Schindler
Robert and Mary Schindler not Schiavo.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 09:48 PM
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37. Yes, thanks for correcting me, I'm actually becoming quite...
...brain dead from the entire carnival :freak:

Multiple agendas, endless stream of players, noise, chaos, misinformation, hysteria, confusion, the public and the media are being played and manipulated toward something very sinister and no one will be allowed any relief :hide:
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:01 PM
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6. congrats Mom and Dad
it took a lot of doing to make the husband look like a saint in this matter but you all did it!

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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:01 PM
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7. And these people have the gall to criticize M. Schiavo?
You can "read" people based on the company they keep, and my feelings toward the Schindlers have definitely changed (for the worse) as they've added more and more of these "advisers" to their inner circle. Randall Terry, Lou Sheldon ... Sounds like they've let the moneychangers into the temple.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:14 PM
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14. I used to feel sorry for her parents...
...I understood that a parent would fight for their child. I could understand grief and desperation.

However, the way in which these creeps are acting cannot be excused by grief.

These people are charlatans.

They're selling tapes of their brain damaged child. They're selling mailing lists for profit. Their child is on the verge of death and they're busy bees--wheeling and dealing from the picket lines.

What a bunch of fake, punks.

I have more respect for Terri that these two creeps.

They should both crawl into a hole and die of shame for the way they have exploited their daughter through the sale of those videotapes, "Look at us over here! We're the grieving parents! Watch us marketize our daughter's vegetative state and profit off the sale of videotapes that showcase how our daughter acts with a liquefied cerebral cortex! That'll be $29.99 please!"

No more sympathy for these revolting creeps.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:28 PM
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18. They're still in pain.
having been through a similar issue twice, I can't help but feel sympathy. the anguish just empties you out.

At any rate, I'd question whether the mom had anything to do with the decision on these lists.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:21 PM
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30. I can't accept pain or love as the universal excuse for
anything and everything.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:49 PM
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35. I've expressed sympathy for their pain.
I didn't excuse anything.

As Mrs. Schaivo's death draws near, I find that feelings of sadness rooted in my own experiences have been triggered.

They're not monsters. They are going to feel immense pain.

Mr. Schindler may be monumentally fucked-up, but this is how I personally feel about it right now.

As for Mrs. Schindler, from her body language, it appears to me that her husband rules the house with a biblically heavy hand. I don't fully believe she would "sell her child on her deathbed."

Families do royally fucked-up shit around dramas such as this one. They happen every day. It was the monsters such as Delay, Bush and Frist who put the spotlight on this excruciatingly private situation.

I'll reserve my deepest condemnation and loathing for the deranged and sick public figures in our government who never, ever fail for one damn minute to exploit human nature at its worst for their own gain.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:51 PM
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31. I would NEVER sell my child to the highest bidder, which is what in effect
these parents have done. :mad:
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:02 PM
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8. I was going to post it earlier, didn't know if it had been either.........
aren't' they just peachy-keen? Wait until these people who just wanted to ease the Shiavo's pain a little start getting inundated with some of the worst hate propaganda on earth. They'll never give another penny to these A-holes again.
Some have said it was all about the money with the Shiavos, maybe they're correct? :shrug:
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:03 PM
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9. They are prob. running low on money after all that money they er Medicare
has spent so much money on her care.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:05 PM
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12. Yeah, that's it...
Otherwise they are loving and sypathetic parents, and Terri is their only concern....

These people really have started to make my flesh crawl, I don't care if they are deluded and/or emotionally disturbed.

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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:37 PM
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19. Her hospice care was donated by the hospice and some
conservative political group paid for all the legal fees. They didn't need to sell her video tape. These people are worms. Why do they want all that money?
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:48 PM
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21. exactly!
I've heard a half dozen things about her care, but only one about the legal fees -- donated by right wing law firms, and any other who just want some high profile legal action. They have just proved Michael correct -- the whole thing was over the parents wanting some of the settlement. I don't wish to be cold, but I have had a problem from the beginning with the mom -- you know how the police look to a person's reaction to gauge sincerity? Drained or not, if this is the end for my child, I would have a tear.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:47 PM
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27. I just heard that. Terri is a "needy patient"
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:05 PM
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11. Everything lately comes back to an Eberle
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:12 PM
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13. Selling "I Love Terri" brought in a big bucks

She walks, she talks, she crawls on her belly for just one thin dime come in and see the amazing Terri Schiavo!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:22 PM
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16. Randi Rhodes talked about this today
while ripping Peggy Noonan a new one for her twisted column on the Schiavo tragedy.

She mentioned the DU quote.

Al Franken excoriated Noonan yesterday, point by point. Kudos to both for not letting Noonan get away with the ugliness she tried to wrap in a "compassionate" bow.

I'm nominating your post.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:26 PM
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17. Thanks! n/t
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:41 PM
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20. Funny I thought they accused the husband of being in it for the money?
hmmmm :banghead:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:49 PM
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22. That....
is sick.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:49 PM
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23. They're In It For The MONEY...
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:50 PM
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24. kick
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:00 PM
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29. and another
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:12 PM
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25. what's all this fuss i hear about schindler's list?
i mean if steven spielberg wants to sell the rights to schindler's list, what's wrong with that?

oh...

NEVERMIND!

(with apologies to emily latella)
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On Par Donating Member (912 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 07:53 PM
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28. Where's Monte Hall When You Need Him?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:57 PM
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33. What a couple of pigs, profiting from this sordid mess.
Sorry - I don't mean to associate actualy swine with this.
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:39 PM
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34. I think we should all place bets...
So, how long till the tell-all book comes out?
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:25 AM
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36. we're in the money, we're in the money....KICK
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