Should Medical Health Persons Refuse Falwell Treatment?

[placton]

2 states have passed laws permitting medical care professionals to refuse treatment if it violates their own "morals" Michigan is considering such a proposal.

If you were a medical health professional in Ole Jerry's hospital, would you

[lala_rawraw]

1. No

They must be ethical caregivers. Ethics applies to all, no matter what our opinions about that person are. There is no compromise on this... this one I think must be an absolute position.

[placton]

3. I wonder what Jerry's position is on this issue?

Anybody know?

[lala_rawraw]

25. The one he is told to have

By Moon, lol

[davidinalameda]

2. no because the refusal of treatment on a "moral" basis

is a crock of crap

but I would have to think long and hard about not putting a pillow over his face or increase the morphine in his IV

[Warpy]

17. I think I'd be walking v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y to administer

the pain medication, but he'd get it.

That's because of who I am, not what he is.

[librechik]

4. I'd hand feed him while telling him how easy it would be

to slip poison in his cream o wheat, or how some unethical person could pull the plug on him without anyone knowing--You know, just to ease his mind.

[Guckert]

5. I think they should let GOD do ALL the healing for Jerry. He claims he has

CONNECTIONS. lets see if he does or not.

[Zenlitened]

6. Have to provide care. These "moral" refusals are themselves unethical. nt

[frankly_fedup2]

9. Most of the time when a patient goes to see a doctor, and if their

life is not in danger, they will refuse to see them if they owe them money. Of course, they won't say that is the reason why; however, that is the reason why a lot of the time. Sad and unfortunately true.

Does anyone remember when a doctor would come to your house? I got double pneumonia when I was 5 and I remember the doctor coming to our house 3 times before he put me in the hospital.

[frankly_fedup2]

7. Any doctor can refuse a patient treatment anytime anywhere as long

as the patient's life is not in danger. They do it all the time. However, they do tell the patient they can call them in an emergency for the next 30 days and is giving them that long to find another physician.

[Divameow77]

8. Well Doctors do have to provide treatment

to criminals too. They can't refuse treatment to a murder suspect that has been shot by the cops. Will this new law leave that decision up to the Doctor? I can't imagine what that would be like.

[MuseRider]

10. As a former nurse I would

treat him kindly as I should but those shots he would be getting? Large bore needle.

[frankly_fedup2]

13. So what hospital do you work at ? (nt)

[MuseRider]

15. Former nurse.

Left the profession to raise my children 18 years ago. I miss it terribly but it has changed so much and from what I can see I would not want to go back.

[frankly_fedup2]

18. I worked at a hospital in HIM for over 10 years. The doctors treated

the nurses like crap. From what I saw, the nurses kept up with the patients information only. The NA's were the ones running the rooms; however, when the docs came, the nurses were responsible for everything. Always understaffed to the point that if the hospital had been checked (What is the abbreviation of that state regulatory group that comes every year and checks out the hospital -- It's on the tip of my tongue. Starts with a J?? It's not OSHA. Help).

Anyway, the hospital would be shut down. I mean by law (I'm sure you know this too), so many patients require so many nurses; however, every hospital I worked in, only when it was time for review did they have the right amount of nurses for the patients.

I hate it that in homes for the elderly they are always understaffed as well. There may be one RN for a whole floor and the rest are nursing aids (most don't even go to school for it), and when it gets that stressful, that is when the abuse starts.

[MuseRider]

21. Medical care these days is frightening.

Having had all of my family in the hospital and going through all of that with them in the last 10 years I have to say, if you care about someone do not leave their sides. It sickens me the way patients are treated and not treated. Not to place direct blame but you never see nurses anymore, all aides and the manner that they treat the patients is unthinkable to me. I sat with my brother who was in crisis, pulse was between 160 and 170 and he was in respiratory failure, he had just come back to the floor from the ICU and it took over an hour to get the nurse to come back to his room and the aides all ran away because I was screaming at them. Nope, do not leave your loved ones in most of them anymore. Of course some are better than others but still...........

I can't remember either, J something, darn.

[comsymp]

22. JCAHO

Joint Commission on Accreditation of Healthcare Orgs, IIRC.

[MuseRider]

23. HA! Thanks. n/t

[Nite Owl]

11. No, but stand by his bedside

and read the Sermon on the Mount repeatedly. Maybe it will eventually get through. Jesus was a liberal.

[bleedingheart]

12. I would assume that Jerry would call in Benny Hinn...the faith healer

now there would be the test of faith...

[frankly_fedup2]

16. OR, maybe John Edward could talk to him like he did Terri Schievo . . .

and find out if he knew what was going on around him. According to Edward, Terri is aware of everything going on.

His being able to contact Terri confuses me. Or could it prove that she died 15 years ago when her brain went to mush (for lack of a better word)--sorry)

[riverwalker]

14. it's an opportunity

put any arrogant slob in a hospital gown with his behind exposed and with a foley catheter, vulnerable, weak and sick, and suddenly they have an epiphany. They realize they really are just one little person in an ocean of humanity. They realize maybe they do have something in common with a starving, injured Iraqi child across the globe.
It dosen't last long, the lesson usually lost, but for that one moment, it's a beautiful thing to see.

[placton]

19. This poll conclusively proves

that all liberals are compassionate, decent people. Using the same logic as our conservative friends.

[Deja Q]

20. being a Christian, I suppose I'd have to help.

Being Christian says to love one's neighbor.

Unfortunately, being human seems to be far more contagious these days and even I have my limits.

Do unto others as they've already done unto you. How petty, it seems. Or how human. I need to protect myself and my own. Why should I help an enemy back up so he can get another chance to punch us back down? He's shown no proof that he'd change and I doubt he'd want help from an enemy anyway.

Strange how I can advocate both sides. But why should I help a person who openly hates me? Ultimately, I can't. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, duh can't get fooled 'gain! And he doesn't need to fool anybody, his hatred is so obvious that there's no way he could fool anybody with it.

[LeftishBrit]

24. It's a doctor's/ nurse's job to provide treatment to everyone!

Once medical decisions are made on the basis of whom you like/dislike, then we're on a slippery slope.