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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:35 AM
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DKOS: "J.D. Guckert/Jeff Gannon: These Are Your Lives!" - Timeline
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 09:36 AM by sabra
<<SNIP>>
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/28/82111/6781

J.D. Guckert/Jeff Gannon: These Are Your Lives!
by SusanG
Mon Mar 28th, 2005 at 05:21:11 PST

By Susan Gardner and Todd Johnston
ePluribus Media
January 26, 2005 ...

"Yes, sir?" says the President of the United States.

"Jeff Gannon," four rows from the commander in chief, two years from his first White House press briefing and less than three years from his office job at an auto body repair shop, is one half-minute from blowing it.

Gannon, AKA James Dale Guckert, is about to ask the question that will strip the mask off who and what he is, crash fictitious "news outlet" Talon News and kick start demands in Congress for investigations into national security, White House access and definitions of media that are implied by his very presence in that room.

But Wait!

Before he asks that question ... Did we just say ... an auto body repair shop?

Yes, it's true. Guckert's path to the president reads like a modern-day fairy tale on steroids. In less than twelve months, Guckert was catapulted from the position of office manager of family-owned and operated Karmak, Inc., in West Chester, Pennsylvania, to the White House briefing room, with a quick - but thus far unverified beyond Guckert's claim - two-day seminar at the Leadership Institute's Broadcast Journalism School.

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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:39 AM
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1. Damn
The Kossacks have really been digging. :thumbsup:
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:40 AM
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2. Indeed, this is good stuff
and just makes the whole Gannongate thing more amazing... But the MSM has already said who cares...
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:57 AM
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7. This is the first I've heard
of a car accident with Mr. G as a defendant. Anyone know more about it?
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:42 AM
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3. Gee, you mean
in order to succeed all you need is no integrity? And I've been wasting my time with work and honesty! This country needs an enema anymore. :puke:
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Jensen Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:49 AM
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4. Only In America......
but look who we have for a pResident!:puke:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:51 AM
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5. Well worth reading. Good, solid reporting
Hello MSM -- Wake up and do your job. It is important to tell the truth -- without malice, prejudice, or spin. Please just report the facts on the Gannon/Guckert weirdness.


Another tidbit from the blog:

Part of the oddity of Guckert's life is not only that his official resume in no way prepared him for the White House, but that he created not just one, but two, diametrically opposed personas in the past few years - "Jeff Gannon," the conservative guy who fell in line with the "Gods, guns and gays" Rovian talking points and spread them like a virus throughout cyberspace, and "Bulldog" (or "Jeff" or "Lou"), gay escort and pornography webmaster.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:52 AM
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6. This is some amazing investigative work
will the real MSM please stand up?
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:17 AM
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8. Excellent
:kick:
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:39 AM
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9. Thanks for posting that
It does fill in a few holes. I don't see where he had time to do a normal stint in the military. Either he didn't or he is undercovers secret agent man.
I think his Jeff name was simpler for his clients to remember.
Rammin Gannon! Sorry for that. :evilgrin:
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:41 AM
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10. Good link - recommended! n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:53 AM
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11. They have done some digging
haven't they!
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:04 AM
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12. Don't mess with the Kossacks!
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:10 AM
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13. MUST READ -- I'm freaking 'cause may be Missing Link via DK!
Some of you may recall that I started a thread some time back that tried to link Gannon/Guckert with earlier scandals involving white house, intelligence and military gay escort or "honeypot" scandals.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3238821&mesg_id=3238821

It was intriguing enough that it was actually picked up and reproduced on DailyKos and JeffGannon.org. There were a lot of tanatalizing connections but I could not close the loop with a reliable connection between Gannon and alleged intelligence/blackmail gay escort scandals.

I think I have found a very, very strong link. So strong that it's kind of scary.

Sort of as a goof, I followed a link in DK's article (which starts this thread) concerning of all things, Gannon's "penis size"!!! It was actually a set of reviews of Bulldog's escort performance.

Get this: One of Gannon's customers says he appreciated Bulldog's discretion because he, the customer, is a senior military officer.

Because Male4Maleescorts.com probably is not work safe for most of you, I will reproduce that review here. The reviewer makes a few important disclosures that raise really tantalizing inferences.

First, Gannon appeared to specialize in servicing senior military officers who require discretion and it should be inferred could be subject to blackmail. Did Gannon's discretion make him especially appropriate for senior civilian officials as well? Why is this senior military officer so absolutely certain that his secret is safe with Jeff, unless it is by reputation, institutional connection or because he has something over Gannon?

Second, this senior Army officer says that Gannon worked out with him on base. This seems strange. Do civilians ordinarily have clearance to work out in Army gyms with senior military officials? Note that this reviewer does not refer to Gannon as former military, but implies he is a current jarhead (Marine).

Third, their first contact was in Philadelphia, a town that Gannon was not associated with but which is where Aziz al-Taee, alleged crack vial kingpin, business partner of Nick Berg, Gannon interviewee on fake Iraqi intel, and alleged (according to Cannonfire's blog) call boy organizer was based.

Also, the reviewer says that he had sex with Gannon all weekend. If Gannon charged $200/hour, how on earth does this senior military officer afford Gannon's services for an entire weekend?

Warning: This has graphic descriptions of gay sex):

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/bulldogdc.html

I hired Jeff last winter when I was in Philadelphia on business. I was so pleased with the experience that I recently had him travel with me on a weekend trip to North Carolina. I am an active duty senior officer in the US Army. Discretion is of utmost importance to me. Jeff understands that because of his Marine background. He has so many talents besides the bedroom, it was a great experience for me. He is all-man, athletic and self-assured. Great body, he helped me work out twice, one time on base. The sex was great, he's a hard core top, verbal and strong, never romantic, but not mean. But there was so much more. He is intelligent, but would not want me to tell you that and very interesting. Being military also, we had much in common. I feel completely at ease that my secret is safe with him.

You:

I am versatile, 40+ year old career military man. I am used to being in command, so it was good for me to give control over to someone else for a change. I like to suck a masculine man's dick and get fucked hard. I did all of that several times that weekend. Because of my position I cannot find someone compatible in the usual ways. I am luck y to have found this jarhead.


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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:29 AM
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14. Goodness Gracious!...n/t
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:41 AM
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16. Oh yeah -- here's the weekend special price ...
The reviewer mentions he was with Jeff for the entire weekend, and even mentions in his review, the price for the entire weekend: $1200.

Can even career senior officers afford to spend $1200 on companionship for a weekend?
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:45 AM
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17. You know what...
I wouldn't be too suprised :-) It might be worth starting a new thread?
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:46 AM
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18. I am doing so now nt
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:55 AM
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19. Goodness gracious!
What a rated X post! Thanks!

:evilgrin:
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:21 PM
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25. One pitfall to be aware of, perhaps that "review" was done by Guckert
for Gannon, if you get my drift. The details may be exactly as they read or it could be a cheap "marketing" device for the business he was in. You know, just log on as a "40+ year old career military man" and pump your services, as it were.

The "review" would have to be verified somehow. At least along the lines of where it was posted from, if it's even possible to get that IP info at this point.

I hope you find this "reviewer" and that he is real, I just thought I'd give my two cents.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:27 PM
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28. Thanks -- good point -- but there is one reason to believe it's not
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 12:28 PM by HamdenRice
Gannon. That is, it is much better written than the first Gannon editorial pieces!!! And the review was probably typed using one hand, while Gannon was free to use two hands!!!
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:32 AM
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15. HaHa I knew that was him on the KarnakInc website!
A librarian pulled up that info for me from ReferenceUSA. JD Guckert was listed as the contact for a yellowpages ad. It was too similar to be a coincidence since it was located in West Chester PA inthe heart of the De;aware Valley.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:57 AM
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20. Thanks for posting this...very interesting info indeed. eom
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:05 PM
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21. Doesn't look like Bulldog to me. He looks too pudgy.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:57 PM
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31. that was 1999, maybe he went on atkins n/t
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:14 PM
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22. Fascinating.
Excellent work.

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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:16 PM
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23. thanks- kick -eom
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:17 PM
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24. There is an undercurrent of snobbishness here that is starting to bug me..
Don't get me wrong, Guckert is completely unqualified, unprofessional, and a shameless shill. And it's his very obviousness, his amateurishness that unmasked him. So aside from his lack of subtlety, just how different is he from the legions of other whored-out lapdogs in the WH press room or on the news programs?

Are Wolf Blitzer and Bob Schieffer any better than Guckert? They have been putting out pro-republican, pro-war spin for DECADES. At least Guckert made no bones about what he was - a wingnut. These other people have the nerve to pretend to be objective, even as they bed over backwards trying to make Bushco look good.

And although it's interesting to read such a detailed description of Guckert's life going back so far, I can't help but detect a bit of snobbishness in the description of his work "as a landscaper" and at "an auto body shop". So what if he actually worked with his hands for a time. That's something I can respect.

"But Wait!

Before he asks that question ... Did we just say ... an auto body repair shop?"

Maybe he made a decent living there. What's with the feigned shock? I would love to work as a columnist for some local alternative weekly paper. Then I'd probably get all kinds of respect from bloggers like this, but I need to EAT.

Guckert's lack of training and credentials is relevant, because he was not the caliber of reporter that should be in the WH press room, and so is his history as a prostitute, because he may have been servicing high-profile clients who got him access to the White House, and he may have constituted a security risk.

But I'm a little disappointed with the disdain for his "blue-collar" jobs. If he had worked in a body shop, and then taken the legit route and gotten a journo degree, I would have respected him for advancing his career, not looked at him as an uppity grease monkey.

Anyway, hasn't the whole Guckert thing been played out? What about all the other whores? As we focus on this clown, they continue to spew their spin night after night, with nobody questioning their legitimacy.

A journalism degree, and hands that have never had calluses do not a journalist make.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:23 PM
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26. I don't think that's it at all ...
First of all, the job he seemed to have most often was "office manager," which even at an auto shop, is not a blue collar or low status job at all. It's just that it has nothing to do with journalism, and his elevation to the WH press corp on accomplishment or credentials is all the more improbable.

This has not at all played itself out unless you look at it out of context. The question is whether the shrub administration has a wide ranging strategy of promoting fake news, through fake reporters (Gannon), bribing an extensive cadre of journalists and columnists (Armstrong Williams) and intimidating the remainder of the media that cannot be bought (as per Bill Moyers, Dan Rather).

It is nothing less than a symptom of the end of our democracy.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:25 PM
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27. The problem is there are too many holes with Gannongate
the time line is there to help fill in the missing pieces. Yes you are correct, that it shouldn't matter whether he was a bookeeper or teacher, in general terms. However it does come to play when he projected him self as an ex military political journalist. The fact that this time line shows that has just an every day shmoe, that had a secret life, and some how ended up in the WH, makes the whole thing even more interesting....
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bin.dare Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:40 PM
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29. the feigned shock had to do with the new job info ...
... and not the blue collar job aspect. most people were not aware of the auto body repair job. that's all, don't be too sensitive.
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:51 PM
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32. It's OBVIOUS that his physical attributes paved the way to his WH
press room job. No doubt about that!
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 03:00 PM
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33. "how different is he from the legions of other whored-out lapdogs"
He is different because he cannot even put on a passable pretense of being a journalist. At least the others were placed into the WH briefing room as representatives of known "news" organizations (however whorish they may be).

"auto body repair shop" comment merely illustrates that this guy went from exactly NOWHERE in journalism DIRECTLY to the White House. Others in that room have likely been in the industry for many years, working their way up.

I see no "disdain for blue collar workers". The disdain is for someone who poses as something that he is not. Gannon was PLACED by someone. WHO?

He was involved in the Plame case. He "scooped" 'Shock and Awe'. He "scooped" the Mary Mapes aspect of the AWOL story. He worked as a GOP operative in the South Dakota senate race, while violating journalistic ethics, posing as a local citizen (under yet another fake identity).

Journalist work for years to developer sources, yet he had inside scoops as a rank beginner. WHO fed him these stories?

He wrote deliberate LIES regarding Kerry having an affair with an intern. "Gannon" is a liar and a faker. He posed to the public as a "journalist" and lied to the public. He is a public figure at this point, and can full well accept the digging into his background.

You call him a "wing-nut". I don't even think that is the truth. No one who knew him ever made any comment about him having any political views at all.

You state, "I would love to work as a columnist for some local alternative weekly paper." But he did NOT work as a columnist for some local weekly. He went DIRECTLY into the White House Briefing Room. HOW, and with WHOSE help?

"...hasn't the whole Guckert thing been played out?" No. It has not. It will not be played out until the sponsor of this faker/liar/plant has been exposed.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:18 AM
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38. Trouble, you have it exactly right ...
when you wrote:

Gannon was PLACED by someone. WHO?

That is the $64,000 question that we all need to focus on -- and why? Was he a boyfriend of someone in the WH or has he blackmailed anyone? And if so, did he have any accomplices in his agency.
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bin.dare Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 12:33 PM
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40. who has looked at the RNC 2000 convention in Philadelphia ?
we know Eberle was there, even Nick Berg was there. Was G/G there soliciting? The summer of 2000 seems to jive with the DKos time line.
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fromBrooklyn Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 12:40 PM
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41. nice point.
and let's not forget, Philly, Delaware, are close to DC (well, not far at least). And there was mention in a local philly paper about Guckert playing on a 'gay-bar's soft-ball team: Which is to say he was around Philly then...
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:29 PM
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50. Would you mind providing me with some idea as to how
close Philly and Delaware are to D.C., hours or miles? I am not familiar with the area at all.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:27 PM
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49. So how can we check the 2000 RNC convention info.
I think you make a good point. thanks :hi:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:41 PM
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30. (From)...1991 to 1994, he failed to pay personal income tax in...Delaware
for a total of nearly $9,500 in unpaid taxes. With fines and penalties making his total owed bill a whopping $20,742.40, Delaware filed a lien against him in October 1996.
Nine grand is a lot of money to owe in FEDERAL tax. What would be have to have been earning in that period to owe that much in STATE tax?

:headbang:
rocknation
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:56 AM
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60. Actually, with interest and penalties for FOUR years' taxes...
a few years late...$9K is really not all that much. But the ineresting thing IS, 1991-94 were GHWB years. That was also Gulf War, and post-Gulf War years (if he WAS an Independent Contractor during those years)... staying overseas, let's say to "Re-Paint" military vehicles...that could explain why he never got around to filing those returns, or maybe didn't because he felt the "payments" he received for his services would not be reported by those individuals who "paid" him...perhaps with cash??? As a lot of Contractors ARE in that area now.

Also Delaware is a state that a lot of people forming "front" companies have those companies incorporated there. So the fact that his "company" was incorporated and taxed in Delaware, does NOT mean he operated it there.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:41 PM
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34. kick
:kick:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 11:54 PM
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35. Hi Merh!
:hi:

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 12:20 AM
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36. Hello Cat!
Who's your buddy? I mean, really, who is your buddy in the photo? Do you know, does anyone really know?

Wonder if he will submit to DNA testing? Wonder if anyone can get the can of coke he just finished drinking out of? :shrug:

Inquiring minds want to know, you know! :freak:

.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 12:58 AM
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37. That's the way....
aha aha.

;-)
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fromBrooklyn Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:38 AM
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39. Great Article; going home last night
I had a thought in reference to one of the points SusanG brings up:

"Why go back to the Frat?"

And then it occured to me: because he was cruising for recruits for his escort gig.

It does seem like the lynchpin is: Who hooked him up with his first gig?

This all smells like truth. Doesn't it?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 01:09 PM
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42. Do you think this is accurate?
I just don't know anymore. :freak:
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fromBrooklyn Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 02:18 PM
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43. Accurate, you mean the 'timeline'?
I think it's very plausible, more plausible than most others I've read.

Not to say it's definitive, but it seems pretty clear. He grows up and lives and works all in the same area, does things that seem related to the things he was doing before. It 'scans' (to appropriate a term.) In short he behaves in ways I know most people to behave. (And the timeline brings up relevant points that possibly illustrate and or illuminate his greater goals and influences.)

My post is supposition and as such, only as accurate as a supposition can be - does that make sense?

ps. I read many of your posts in the "Gannongate" threads, merh, and appreciate all the work that went into them.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 02:24 PM
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44. Why thank you for remembering my gannongate posts. That was
Edited on Tue Mar-29-05 03:05 PM by merh
so long ago -- so much has happened since then.

Why would he just leave for D.C. - did he conduct his secret life while working for the truck/auto company and meet a sugar daddy that promised to open doors for him in D.C.? :shrug:

BTW - a belated welcome to DU, fromBrooklyn! :hi:
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fromBrooklyn Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 04:50 PM
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45. thanks merh,
Yes, I think he did leave for DC at his 'sugar-daddy's urging. It's not more than two hours away - not a huge change.

And I think the 'sugar-daddy' idea is the one implicite in the time-line. Having known people who have conducted 'secret lives', it seems plausible almost to the point of banal - it's exactly what they (have done) do.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 05:39 PM
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46. But what I find so odd about the sugar daddy angle is jimmy/jeff's
age. To be in his 40's and to have won the heart and mind of a sugar daddy seems very odd to me. :shrug:

It's not like he is a young, virol stud in his 20's ready to be molded and always ready to please. ::+
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:07 PM
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48. I agree.
Either he still isn't who he says he is (and age) or he was undercover in those other jobs and management sent him to DC.

If he was CIA or something - that would fit with the Secret Service saying they didn't skimp on security measures in letting him have a press pass.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:01 PM
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47. Gosh, your up to 46 comments and nobody has said hi to g/g/g/????.....
....now let's not be rude.

:hi::hi::hi::hi::hi::hi: g/g/g/????


Peace.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 06:31 PM
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51. Hi UL!
Where is the dimple in his chin?

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 07:09 PM
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52. Hey merh!! And, yeah, what happened to the dimple?
Too much makeup, maybe?? :shrug:

:hi:


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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:14 PM
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53. Makeup??????
What the hell did they apply it with -- a putty knife?

:silly:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:33 PM
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54. Well, yeah. Everything else about him is 'made up'; at least, "they're"...
....being consistent. :evilgrin:

Peace.

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:42 AM
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59. Where are my manners?
:hi: :hi: :hi:
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osiristz Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:37 PM
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55. Nothing about the child sex ring in the White House? I'm disappointed
Franklin cover-up? Nothing?

Maybe in the next addition
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 08:48 PM
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56. What are you talking about?
What do you know that we don't? What next addition? Can you provide more information?

BTW -- Welcome to DU! :hi:

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 12:20 AM
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57. What's up Osiris? And, I found this post of your's very interesting...
...in_deed:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1683985#1684389

Your comment # 17 is truly fascinating:

"Bush LOVES to kill.

"He also took pleasure in his youth at stuffing firecrackers into frogs mouths and lighting the fuses. Also old news.

Unfortunately, this little bit of Bush-psycho is old news and has come far to late to demonstrate to the country that he is a dangerous man.

What is NEW news is that his nickname in college (when he was a cheerleader) was "lips". One wonders what this little tag may have implied, considering he is known to have spent several hours of 'quality time' alone with Gannon in the WH,

Bush is a mental midget supported by a manipulative media/military giant."


Can you share with us how you have acquired these insights?

It would be really interesting to know if these are 'first hand' knowledge you have about President Bush and "Gannon," or otherwise.

Inquiring minds are eager to learn from you.

Thanks.

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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:37 AM
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62. Locking
This discussion has run its useful course.
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