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nashuaadvocate Donating Member (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 09:50 PM
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The Nashua Advocate: The Time Has Come, the Proof Is Here: "Schiavogate"
It's time we called this whole Schiavo affair a Republican scandal, along with Votergate and Gannongate.

Find all the proof you need here, and please add to our "comments" section (with links, where possible) if we've left anything out.

Let's make a compendium of why the Terri Schiavo affair is now deserving of the moniker "Schiavogate."

Just read the article:

Threats of murder? Check.

Incitement to murder? Check.

Armed robbery? Check.

Nazi analogies? Check.

Narrowly-avoided violence between the police and the Guard? Check.

Shocking hypocrisy from both Tom DeLay and Robert Schindler? Check.

Arrests? Check.

Contempt for the rule of law? Check.

Aggressive demands for the mass impeachment of U.S. judges? Check.


So, the question isn't, "why is all this scandalous?", but rather, why isn't this a national scandal deserving of a "-gate" appellation?

And, for that matter, the virtual destruction of the Republican Party in the 2006 elections?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 09:56 PM
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1. Agree.
Those polls asking about Congress getting involved...they really should say "Republicans".
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:01 PM
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4. but wasn't Tom Harkin one of the tiny handful of Senators involved?
if so, I am SO disappointed. but I'm not from Iowa so wtf do I know?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:14 PM
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9. I'm not sure. But if Dems were involved, it was a tiny handful as you said
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:58 AM
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34. Yes,
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 09:59 AM by seventythree
from what I saw/heard three Senators were on the floor -- I even saw Harkin at a press conference on the negotiated bill. He was with the GOP on this.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:01 PM
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2. It is one huge GATE, thanks NA. nt
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:40 PM
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36. Its all 1 big "gate"... INVESTIGATE! thats the scandal.. nt
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:01 PM
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3. I'm afriad of how really far these people will go to win & control us
They hate our American system so much they have twisted it and cheated us of our way of life in this country. Until the repubs are out of power and many things are reversed to their orginal form, we do not live in a Democracy.

:kick:
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:02 PM
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5. Write or call Judge Greer's church here:
CALVARY BAPTIST CHURCH, 727-441-1581
331 CLEVELAND STREET, CLEARWATER FL 34615

Remember: the pastor threw him out of church.

ridiculous.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:03 PM
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15. Good Idea. -eom
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GramStin Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:17 AM
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25. Good Idea. I'll do it
in the morning. Greer's been getting death threats too and has police protection. Protestors were trash talking about him bad.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:21 AM
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26. Thanks for the info-this sort of disgraceful behavior warrants
Edited on Mon Mar-28-05 01:22 AM by fooj
a letter to the "Christian" pastor! Shameless, self-serving hypocrites!

TRUTH IS OUR MOST POWERFUL WEAPON!


Peace!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:54 AM
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30. Is there a
website where you can drop a line in an online Email forum? How disgusting of that pastor. :grr: That still makes me sick.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 02:05 AM
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31. Can you explain this one - I must have missed it? Thanks
Who was thrown out of the church and what was the "reason" for it?
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nashuaadvocate Donating Member (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:01 AM
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32. Hi there--check the TNA article, there's a link to the story.
The man so mistreated was Florida Circuit Court Judge George Greer, one of the primary judges in the Schiavo case.

-- TNE
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:02 PM
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6. Great post....
Its an amazing story when you see all the events listed on one page...


Its a -gate in my eyes....

:toast:
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:05 PM
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7. Recommended? check. Thanks NA -eom
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nashuaadvocate Donating Member (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:22 PM
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17. Thanks, friend! You'll be happy to know...
...that we are furiously adding to the article by the hour. Already it is much longer and more comprehensive than it was when we first posted--becoming a true "compendium" of Schiavogate outrages--thanks in large part to our readers, who've been e-mailing us with additional sites and article links.

-- TNE
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:12 PM
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8. NA, once again, carries the banner of truth and the advocacy, thereof!!
Much respect for all you are doing.

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:15 PM
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10. Death threats to state & federal judges
who challenge the philosophy of the Bush boys should qualify for some kind of gate.
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:17 PM
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11. bravo, NA
great work
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:26 PM
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12. Soooooooooo Tired of hearing the made-up suffix "Gate"
Attached to every new scandal that comes along.

I do believe it's one of the reasons no other scandal has ever gotten OUT of the GATE.

Urgh.

Watergate was a hotel -- reason for the name. "gate" tagging everything else just ensures we don't get taken seriously. :::sigh:::
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nashuaadvocate Donating Member (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:06 PM
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16. I beg to differ...
How many "gates" did Bill Clinton have under his belt when he became the first U.S. President impeached (albeit not convicted and removed from office) since Andrew Johnson?

Were Republicans "not taken seriously" after they sponsored trumped-up scandals like Filegate, Travelgate, Whitewater, and Monicagate (among others)?

No, they did just fine. They did more with less, and got a U.S. President impeached.

The difference, of course, is that Votergate, Gannongate, and Schiavogate (or Terrigate, or Tubegate, or Jebgate, or whatever you call it) all have some substance to them: that is, they suggest a national party, the Republican Party, which is in wholesale collapse--and which, in fact, is aiming to take a significant portion of the country's legal and political processes with it.

-- TNE
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 04:49 PM
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37. TBI-gate?
During this week where we have witnessed so much gnashing of teeth over a beknighted woman's animated corpse, the latest "shiny object," your *dauphin has CUT FUNDS TO -0-for the "survivors" of "NEW, IMPROVED" kevlar vests... You know, those volunteers returning with their brains (AND +++THEY+++ STILL GOT SOME REASONABLE PORTION OF THEM) seriously shook up. :shrug:

In my little corner of the world, we've decided the Amis are irretrievably insane and need a Schein with a stempel:

ACHTUNG!!!VORSICHT!
AUSGEFICKENFLIPPT!



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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:29 PM
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13. NA, I was typing in Google to see if you were showing up yet and...
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 10:32 PM by Al-CIAda
came across this-





"Maybe if We Call It Schiavogate?"
Blogosphere not posting about about Terri Schiavo and the fight for her life...
http://crystal.typepad.com/crystalclear/2005/02/maybe_if_we_let.html


:toast: :smoke:
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:32 PM
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14. Things are fine the way they are right now, aren't they?
82% opposition says, well, quite a lot.

bush has so many "-gate" scandals attached to him, people don't seem to care to the extent that it significantly affects his polling numbers.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:33 PM
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18. Meanwhile,
Tom Delay remains at large.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Celebrations_for_Children_Inc.

As do the 501(c)
organizations that have been set up
to take your money and use it against you.
http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/501(c)(3)

The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) is a neo-conservative think tank with strong ties to the American Enterprise Institute. PNAC's web site says it was "established in the spring of 1997" as "a non-profit, educational organization whose goal is to promote American global leadership." Their policy document, "Rebuilding America's Defences," openly advocates for total global military domination. Many members hold highest-level positions in the G.W. Bush administration.
The Project is an initiative of the New Citizenship Project (501(c)(3)).
http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/PNAC

Just in case you are wondering about what the future holds for
Granny and the Wolf,
it appears that they are both vested in
Building a worldwide movement for democracy.

In the aftermath of World War II, faced with threats to our democratic allies and without any mechanism to channel political assistance, U.S. policy makers resorted to covert means, secretly sending advisers, equipment, and funds to support newspapers and parties under siege in Europe. When it was revealed in the late 1960's that some American PVO's were receiving covert funding from the CIA to wage the battle of ideas at international forums, the Johnson Administration concluded that such funding should cease, recommending establishment of “a public-private mechanism” to fund overseas activities openly.

.....in one of his major foreign policy addresses, President Reagan proposed an initiative "to foster the infrastructure of democracy--the system of a free press, unions, political parties, universities--which allows a people to choose their own way, to develop their own culture, to reconcile their own differences through peaceful means." He noted that the American Political Foundation would soon begin a study "to determine how the U.S. can best contribute--as a nation--to the global campaign for democracy now gathering force." Delivered to a packed Parliamentary chamber in Britain's Westminster Palace, the Reagan speech would prove to be one of the central contributions to the establishment of a U.S. democracy foundation.

The American Political Foundation's study was funded by a $300,000 grant from the Agency for International Development(AID) and it became known as "The Democracy Program." Its executive board consisted of a broad cross-section of participants in American politics and foreign policy making. The Democracy Program recommended establishment of a bipartisan, private, non-profit corporation to be known as the National Endowment for Democracy (NED). The Endowment, though non-governmental, would be funded primarily through annual appropriations and subject to congressional oversight. NED, in turn, would act as a grant-making foundation, distributing funds to private organizations for the purpose of promoting democracy abroad. These private organizations would include those created by the two political parties and the business community, which would join the regional international institutes of the labor movement already in existence.
http://www.ned.org/about/nedhistory.html

On January 30, 2005, the Iraqi people engaged in the country's first democratic elections in over a half century. The entire world watched as millions of Iraqi citizens ignored grave security concerns and courageously turned out to vote, endorsing democratic processes over violence and embracing a democratic future for their nation.

Since the liberation of Iraq in March 2003, the National Endowment for Democracy has supported a variety of programs that address democracy promotion through both political party development and civil society projects. These efforts helped to create the climate that allowed the Iraqi people to participate freely in the January elections for the transitional national assembly. The Endowment plans to remain active as the political process unfolds and will continue to provide assistance to the Iraqi people as they draft a permanent constitution, ratify and promulgate the constitution, organize the December 2005 elections for a constitutionally elected government and seek to consolidate democratic gains.

The Endowment's family of affiliated core institutes, the International Republican Institute (IRI), the National Democratic Institute (NDI), The Center for International Private Enterprise (CIPE), and the American Center for International Labor Solidarity (Solidarity Center), all have significant programs in Iraq that address the needs for democracy building through the development of political parties, civil society and the business and labor sectors. IRI and NDI both have political party development programs that offer all the parties a wide range of training and consultations on leadership, coalition building, campaigning, platform and message development, poll monitoring, information technology and communications.
http://www.ned.org/publications/newsletters/1-05.html#iraq
TRANSLATION: covert ops now "control" Iraq.

Does NED only fund groups opposed to the ruling party in Venezuela?
http://www.ned.org/grants/venezuelaFacts.html
TRANSLATION: Is the US doing everything possible to overthrow Chavez?

In bipartisan news,
it is nice to see Frist and Gephardt getting along so nicely.
Evan Bayh and Wesley Clark
also grace the board of the place where Wolfowitz's main squeeze, Shaha Ali Riza,
currently of the Wold Bank,
formerly worked.
http://www.ned.org/about/who.html

The history of the NED,
demonstrates how the wholesale 501(c) fleecing of America came into being.
But enough about Pinky and the Brain
http://www.nndb.com/people/290/000023221/
and their plan to take over the World Bank.
Terri Schiavo is still alive.

Published: Feb 8, 2005
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - A charity founded three years ago to help pay legal costs for the parents of Terri Schiavo in a prominent right-to-die case has been fined $1,000 for failing to register with the state to solicit donations.
An administrative complaint filed Monday by the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services gave the Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation the option of paying the fine and registering properly with the state, or paying the fine and shutting down. It could also request an administrative hearing.
The foundation's purpose is to help Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, block her husband's attempts to remove the feeding tube that has kept her alive since she suffered severe brain damage when her heart briefly stopped 15 years ago.
Barbara Weller, an attorney for the Schindlers, said Tuesday the proper paperwork will be filed soon. She said the process was delayed partly because the Schindlers were exploring whether they could seek nonprofit status
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/florida/MGBKY0BSY4E.html
http://www.terrisfight.net/
http://www.responseunlimited.com/datacard.lasso?list=2968
Who the heck is Pamela Hennessey?
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nashuaadvocate Donating Member (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:44 PM
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19. Hey there--
--thanks for the links.

The Advocate has previously covered the X-con 501(c)(3) scam in lengthy, link-filled articles here, here, and here.

We consider that scandal a huge, huge news story as well.

-- TNE
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:52 PM
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20. It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World!!! nt
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 11:59 PM
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21. Sure is. I have scandal exhaustion. n/t
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:15 AM
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22. I KNOW, there have been SO MANY scandals lately that
nobody even remembers
John Adams Cody
the beheaded action figure.
:cry:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 12:26 AM
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23. Just read over the blog....
Baby Sun was in a Houston hospital if I'm not mistaken.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:09 AM
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24. That stuff is terrifying when read in a list like that...OMIGOD!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:24 AM
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27. They are weaving the proverbial tangled web.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:50 AM
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28. Great work. Thank you, NA. n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:53 AM
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29. The reason why it isn't
is because God is "on their side" and it's a "moral values" type of thing. :eyes:
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Im with Rosey Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:20 AM
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33. Catch-all Gate
I have taken a little time to try to feel less overwelmed by all the bu$h$hit. It hasn't worked! My feeling is there is there are so many gates, I've decided on one all encompassing shrubgate. It is all purpose, rolls off the tongue, and most people can apply their own most deplorable blank-gate. We all have strong feelings about what bothers us the most, shrubgate enables us to give blanket coverage to all the lies.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 10:01 AM
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35. add FLAG DESECRATION to that
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