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gnofg (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 10:04 PM Original message |
Plessy vs. ferguson |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. Nobody made such claims |
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gnofg (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 10:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. No one made such claims |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. No One Expects the Courts to be Infallible |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 10:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. I hope your tongue isn't in your cheek. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Not tongue in cheek at all. For the DU posters who don't want a system of |
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gnofg (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Randall terry |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. Apples to mangoes |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm waiting for you to propose an alternative to a system of law. |
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gnofg (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 10:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. How did you |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 10:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. made it according to fact and law |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 10:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. That Greer was upheld so consistently means it is likely legally sound. |
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gnofg (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. greer's upholding |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. So the decision is legally sound. That's all a case can aspire to be. |
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gnofg (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Who said I |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I don't recall it being cited as "perfect". I remember the case |
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gnofg (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. That |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Again: I agree, He made a correct legal decision. |
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Floogeldy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
57. The appeals were not limited to reviewing only for procedural errors |
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oldcoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
10. Brown vs. Board of Education |
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gnofg (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. only took 60 some odd years |
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oldcoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 12:16 AM Response to Reply #12 |
29. Courts make good decisions and bad decisions |
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Floogeldy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 03:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
58. Not even Greer would tell you that adjudication of cases is "perfect." |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
14. No, the court's were right. The law was wrong. Nice try, though. |
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gnofg (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. congress |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. They didn't. Congress changed the law prospectively and foreverybody |
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gnofg (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. that post was for schiavo |
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gnofg (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. If the |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. for the most part, the civil rights laws. |
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gnofg (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. wait |
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oldcoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 12:00 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. The Supreme Court and Desegregation |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 12:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Cite? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-26-05 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
20. What do you believe makes a court "right" or "wrong"? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
30. Judge Greer's decision was correct, it is the law that is wrong! |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 12:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Specifically which law was wrong? |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 12:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. That push for new legislation? Already made, already lost. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 12:40 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. So you want to outlaw abortion? |
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the_spectator (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 12:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. exactly! |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. See, that's one of the misconceptions of this case |
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the_spectator (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. thanks for the response- |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Since I have selected my spouse as my legal guardian in the event |
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the_spectator (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Well, I'm assuming the conflict of interest because of this: |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I'm afraid you haven't considered quite a few things |
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the_spectator (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 02:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I wouldn't want to second guess your choice for your self at all - |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I'm sorry, but are you asserting Terri did not know the implications |
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the_spectator (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Well, |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. On what basis do you claim Terri did not know the legal implications |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. But the legal issue is not whether she is terminal but whether she |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. nothingshocks, what do you make of the presumed conflict of interest |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. As the judge stated BOTH parties had conflicts of interest |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Thanks - but I meant the poster's argument that spouses should |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Everyone always has a conflict of interest with everyone else |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Yes, I think there's always a "conflict of interest" |
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the_spectator (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Thanks for the discussion - |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Actually there IS the choice to end the relationship via marriage |
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the_spectator (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. I guess you mean that ... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 02:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Yes, yes - but I'm really trying to narrow this to the idea that |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. They don't have the power to make decision FOR them |
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CRYINGWOLFOWITZ (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-05 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
50. both were conservative constructionist decisions |
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