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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:58 PM
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Is Schiavo case the diversion for Wolfowitz/girlfriend/Iraq War story?
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 12:59 PM by gauguin57
Some are implying Wolfowitz's affair with a Saudi-born World Bank official may have encouraged him to encourage Bush into Iraq War. Think about the possible repercussions of that! THINK ABOUT IT!

We've been wondering what the Right Wing is using the Schiavo story as a diversion from ... this may be it. Watch out -- another "terrorist attack" may be on the way, once the Schiavo story fades from the headlines. They need something to take attention from this story. It's a powderkeg!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=342048&in_page_id=1770

(From the Daily Mail)

"The appointment of George Bush's leading hawk as head of the World Bank was heading for a crisis over his relationship with a senior British employee.

"Influential members of staff at the international organisation have complained to its board that Paul Wolfowitz, a married father of three, is so besotted with Oxford-educated Shaha Riza he cannot be impartial.

"Extraordinarily, they claim she played a key role in pushing the 61-year-old Pentagon official into the Iraq War. And the row comes amid claims that Wolfowitz's wife Clare once warned George Bush of the threat to national security any infidelity by her husband could cause.

"A British citizen - at 51, eight years younger than Wolfowitz's wife - Ms Riza grew up in Saudi Arabia and was passionately committed to democratising the Middle East when she allegedly began to date Wolfowitz."

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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:58 PM
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1. In the same way that a self inflicted gunshot wound
distracts from a hangnail.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:03 PM
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2. Hangnail? Wolfowitz's d**k getting thousands killed is a hangnail?
That's what it seems like we're talking about here. Wolfie in love; his love wants us to go to go kick ass in Iraq; Wolfie convinces the maleable Bush to go to war. And thousands and thousands die.

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:06 PM
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6. do you believe that?
do you think that was his motivation?
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:34 PM
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11. Wolfie's love life is a hangnail.
If we were talking about thousands and thousands dying, then we wouldn't give a crap about his mistress. Her existence is as much a distraction as anything.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:45 PM
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12. His love life is not a hangnail -- his mistress is not some chick ..
... she's an influential World Bank official with Middle Eastern ties, who has long been interested in changing the Middle East in the way the Bush Admin. has come to believe it should be changed.

Shaha Riza is enamored of the idea of making war to change Iraq. Wolfie becomes enamored of Shaha Riza. Wolfie becomes enamored of the idea of going over to kick ass in Iraq (her idea), and then suddenly Bush (with Wolfie whispering in his ear) becomes enamored of the idea.

And we go to war. And thousands die.

Not a hangnail, if it sticks.

Of course, the American MSM will probably ignore the whole thing. I just emailed the Daily Mail story to Keith.
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:04 PM
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3. No, it's a setup for getting more right wing judges appointed
I think the GOP and Bush are using Teri Schiavo to scare wingers into pressing for more conservative judges. If that happens then we will definitely be headed towards a theocratic form of government.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:51 PM
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16. I think so too
They'll claim all these judges are liberals even if they're really conservatives already. They already have their little religious base freaked out over the judges letting Terri "die." Wolfie being appointed the member of the World Bank makes tons of sense.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:05 PM
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4. Wolfie told to go to war by his Saudi Mistress? lol
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:06 PM
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5. Diversion? Duh. Yes.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:11 PM
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7. Could YOU love this man?
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:22 PM
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10. Ew!
Don't scare me with a photo like that! REPULSIVE!
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:12 PM
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8. It's a diversion for the impending conviction of Delay
and his mafia.
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:22 PM
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9. Who the hell would
want to even get close (let alone intimate) with this greaseball "comb-sucker"? Have to shower now just thinking about it! Yuk!
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:46 PM
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13. Iraq war
was on top of the PNAC agenda for about 7 years before the war finally was waged, so I doubt she had much to do with it, or, to be more precise, anything at all. It wasn't just Wolfie's lonely crusade, after all. It is interesting that "influential members of staff" in the WB claim that she had. Muddying the waters about the real agenda? A little known fact about Wolfie is that he was on the steering committee in the super-elite Euro-American Bilderberg Club for several years, probably brought in by his mentor George Shultz, another proponent of war on Iraq. That means he's probably very much an insider in the global financial elite. Yet there seems to be an effort on the part of some people to portray him as an outsider. Beats me what's going on.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:53 PM
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17. I don't think he's an outsider at all
I think he, Rumsfeld and Cheney are very much involved on the inside and making plans and everything.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:10 PM
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21. Quite probably
There's an unholy trinity if ever there was one. All the important stuff goes on behind the scenes anyway. It's hard to know what we know and don't know, and then there are the unknown unknowns, to use Rumsfeld's phraseology...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:46 PM
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14. Oh wow
Go figure. And he's married and a father of three. Some more of that family values stuff!
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kcass1954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:48 PM
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15. So much for the sanctity of marriage!
"A British citizen - at 51, eight years younger than Wolfowitz's wife - Ms Riza grew up in Saudi Arabia and was passionately committed to democratising the Middle East when she allegedly began to date Wolfowitz."

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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:57 PM
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18. Doesn't this seem a little far-fetched?
A whole gang of people wanted us in Iraq, not just Wolfowitz.

Perhaps he has a crush, but the idea that Iraq is the result of some sort of Helen of Troy scenario at the World Bank is ridiculous.

Someone should show her how Wolfie combs his hair for the cameras, though.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:59 PM
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19. Influential World Bank people say it's not far-fetched. "Key role."
"Influential members of staff at the international organisation have complained to its board that Paul Wolfowitz, a married father of three, is so besotted with Oxford-educated Shaha Riza he cannot be impartial.

"Extraordinarily, they claim she played a key role in pushing the 61-year-old Pentagon official into the Iraq War. And the row comes amid claims that Wolfowitz's wife Clare once warned George Bush of the threat to national security any infidelity by her husband could cause.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:21 PM
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20. Again, doesn't that seem a little far-fetched? n/t
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:23 PM
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22. Very far-fetched
and obviously not correct. I mean, the neo-cons convinced a majority of the Congress to vote for regime change in Iraq back in 1998. Wolfowitz is a PNACer and that war was their plan all along, as well as, of course, the plan of those who funded them. So the real question is, why are those people at the bank saying that?
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 08:44 PM
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23. It amazes me sometimes...
Just because it's in a major publication in quotes does not make it true.

Skepticism is a virtue.
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