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deek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 12:53 PM Original message |
Some Facts in This Matter Of Starving Terri Schiavo to Death |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'm skeptical about the notion that Terri Schiavo is disabled. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. Terri Is NOT Merely Disabled |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
3. There is a difference between Terry and other disabled people |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. Terri has NO CEREBRAL CORTEX. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. exactly |
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trudyco (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. OK -I'm getting sucked more and more into this |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. EXACTLY..... |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. You feel the same way about wives having control over their husbands' fate |
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trudyco (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Yes! |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. So in every instance, a spouse should have less right to decide |
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trudyco (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Maybe. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
67. That's a whole other issue, of course, when you're talking about |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
65. You will have to force a change in the Judeo-Christian teaching |
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LuminousX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. Parents lose rights once the child is 18 |
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LuminousX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
72. Brain Death is not a disability |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. I'd like to know how anyone would dare to second guess MY choice |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
52. a good example |
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Banazir (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 05:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
82. Some do, some don't. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
5. Let's get our cloning kits to the graveyard to help all the "disabled" |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
7. The rest of the world is not appalled by us because of . . . |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. The rest of the world is appalled by us because we put more |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. I wouldn't disagree with you. |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
8. While I find this line of comparison |
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deek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. absolutely |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. thank you for the clarification. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
71. but on the flip side |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
9. Again, I think the disabled should be remiss to hang their hat on |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
11. Fuck these fuckers opposed to the right to choose. Why don't |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Sorry I disagree. The disabled ARE viewed as a burden to some |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. They did make sure it wasdouble dog certain her choice |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
50. Again, reiterating that the same record was upheld 19 times is irrelevant |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. That's fine if you support trial by public opinion. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. A position can be legally valid but wrong |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Exactly NSMA....... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. We're as certain as can be that these are her wishes |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
45. Never once did I say 100%. I didn't say 100% for a reason. There is no |
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recoveringrepublican (779 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
62. dis-abled here and I can see their point.... |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
12. She adds meaning to their life? Her death will cause them grievous harm? |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. HELL ON EARTH.... |
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illflem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
18. It doesn't matter one iota which level of brain dead she is |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
24. There's a reason why the world is appalled by us and it's not abortion. nt |
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Modem Butterfly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
25. Terri Schiavo's right to die is not a disability issue |
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deek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Again, check out disabled DUer's forum for our opinions and concerns |
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Modem Butterfly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Been there, done that, not impressed |
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deek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Wasn't trying to impress, just inform eom |
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Modem Butterfly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. There's heat there, but very little light |
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Banazir (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #44 |
83. You must not be living in the same America I live in. |
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Modem Butterfly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 07:36 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. None of those things are a result of the right to die |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
26. Terri chose Michael to be her lawfully wedded husband. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
30. This is not a disability issue! |
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deek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Fearful since Selection 2000, actually... |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. Who else is going to pay for them? |
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Modem Butterfly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #48 |
61. Damn, that's rough |
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deek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #48 |
63. If you lived in CA |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
34. I have a son with a disability |
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deek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. I don't quite understand what you're saying.. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. It's not a disability issue, |
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deek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Classic disagreement |
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Modem Butterfly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:09 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Newsflash: There is no single disability perspective |
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deek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 03:00 PM Response to Reply #58 |
74. CLARIFICATION |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 03:08 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. They do not advocate for me |
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Modem Butterfly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 03:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. I wouldn't even go that far |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #56 |
68. Depends on what you mean by terminally ill |
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deek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 03:20 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. definition of "terminallly ill" |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. No illness |
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Modem Butterfly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 07:39 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. I think some people want to use this poor woman as a soapbox |
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Modem Butterfly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
47. It's an insult to all disabled people |
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deek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
54. Silly me..just realized no link to story |
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Kelvin Mace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
37. Amazing how they discover the disabled |
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deek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. who "discovered" the disabled? |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:00 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. You can't be serious. n/t |
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Modem Butterfly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. No, she's not kidding |
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deek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. I'm not antichoice. |
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Modem Butterfly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Sure you are |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 03:08 PM Response to Reply #57 |
76. And playing dumb on "who" discovered the disabled. |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 06:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
85. It's been an issue in circles for many years. |
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Kelvin Mace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 05:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
81. I am referring to the Right |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
39. My question: who the hell is ANYONE to try to override the say of the |
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deek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. I'm not |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
59. I'm afraid that does not answer my question. Who is anyone to |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. Stop it with the absolutist position. Parents are responsible for these |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:11 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Nope - that'swhat te court is for. If abuse is determined, then of |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. And in THIS unique instance, I concur with the court based on what is |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
42. Terri is not being discriminated against because of a disability |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
66. Terri Schiavo and people like her are already dead |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
77. the disabled activist is missing one vital point: |
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bush_is_wacko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-05 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
84. This is ridiculous! |
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