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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:08 PM
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What can we do if Jeb listens to the radicals who are begging him?
I just heard that RW nut un Fl screaming "Governor Bush, you must save the life of Terri Shiavo! I don't see any way for him to do it legally, so what can we do if he decids to bend under this pressure and do something really weird?
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:10 PM
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1. Then we see if we still live according to the rule of law or not.
Don't like a law or a judge's opinion?

Just break it! Who are they, stupid judges!
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VelvetMonkeyWrench Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:27 PM
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19. Sometimes people have to break the law...
Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 03:32 PM by VelvetMonkeyWrench
A lady named Rosa Parks leaps to mind.

Many will argue that this situation is completely different, blah, blah, blah, BUT we are all to close to it now to tell what final resolution will look like and the directions it will take.

I assure you, Terri dying will NOT be the final resolution in this case. This is going to have reverberations for quite a while.

At a minimum, the state of FL will need to reevaluate its laws regarding euthanasia. A rabid racoon is legally accorded a quicker more dignified death in FL than this lady is getting -- AND THAT IS CLEARLY WRONG no matter what side of this issue anyone is on. Every person in the USA should find that particular fact very very disturbing.

Also, courts are not always right, even the supreme court. ex. Dred Scott.


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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:32 PM
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23. I agree with you.
I do, and when I wrote my post I thought of the civil rights movement (not Rosa Parks though). And I thought of the Dred Scot case too.

But those instances denied rights to people, who were eventually forced to seize their rights--this case is not doing such (of course, it depends on who you ask).

Eh, I see your point. I do think we still don't know which way this will go.
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:10 PM
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2. if Bush is idiotic enough
to force this issue and defy the courts, then all we have to do is sit back and watch the fireworks...

florida will go freaking nuts - he'd be running for his life!
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:10 PM
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3. Nothing.
I'd prefer to sit back and watch the shitstorm that he would cause by defying a SCOTUS ruling. He won't do SHIT about this.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:11 PM
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4. I don't know what you can do ...
wtih a trough-feeder like Jeb Bush. Hopefully he'll piss Floridians off and get booted out of office. (But the fraudulent voting machines will distort the results.)
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:11 PM
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5. have him arrested
start impeachment proceedings.as he is inciting a riot in Pinellas Park and violating the rights of other patients in Hospice.these people should have been caged 8 to 10 blocks away.............he is interfering with state and federal law rulings................
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:12 PM
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6. I'm laughing either way.
The fundies demand illegal action. Illegal action will put Jeb in the doghouse with the vast majority.

Jeb's the big loser here politically, as someone who panders and acts in an unprincipled manner at the expense of the Schiavos AND Shindlers should lose big.

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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:12 PM
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7. If he defies the court order, he'll be held in contempt and arrested.
I only hope the paddy wagon can stop by 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:15 PM
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11. you know that will never happen... don't tease...
which laws HAVEN'T the Bush's broken and not only got away with it without punishment, but were regarded by some as heros for it.

False hope is a nasty bitch.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:28 PM
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20. Its alot easier to get way with war crimes than contempt of court.
Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 03:28 PM by K-W
You seem to think the Bush's are invincible, that is a dangerous and silly concept. One of the reasons they seem invincible is that they choose thier battles well, they break laws they know they can get away with.

I dont think this is such a case at all.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:44 AM
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26. don't call Me silly because they get away with it all...
the aren't invincible, the public is vincable.
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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:14 PM
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8. He can declare Martial Law and seize her. then Let the impeachment begin.
Jeb loses either way.
1. He does sent state troopers in and brings her into his protective custody, which makes him guilty of contempt of court. Impeachment city.
2. He lets her die the dignified death she deserves, the far right nutjobs lambaste him, which will hurt his run for Pres or future as Gov. of Fl.

These meatheads stepped in shit with this one (blatant attempt a pandering to the religious right)and they cant get the STINK of their shoes.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:14 PM
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9. I have popcorn and a comfy chair.
We live in interesting times. :evilgrin:
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:15 PM
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10. Well...
Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 03:15 PM by deadparrot
I honestly don't know what I'd feel; probably one of two things:

a) I get freaked out ("holy crap, this is my country and they're blatantly ignoring the highest court in the land to get the goods from their fundie base."). Then proceed to take the next flight to Europe.

or b) Laugh at the absurdity of it all. Watch as the radical rightists put themselves on display for everyone to see, and watch the American people's expression turn to stunned as they realize wo is running their country. I'll have a great story to tell my grandkids.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:16 PM
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12. Let him!
The only comfort I have is Mrs. Schiavo will be unaware of the latest indignity to her person.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:16 PM
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13. Don't interrupt the enemy when he is making a mistake
Napoleon Bonaparte

When he goes off teh deep end and does this... we seat back and watch the firestorm. trust me one is comming either way... he has whipped them to that kind of a frenzy, so a firestorm IS comming

If you are concerned about Terri, poor woman, but she is really not there...

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delhurgo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:16 PM
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14. Yeah, nothing.
I hope he does. Im enjoying all the chaos up to now but that would really be fun to watch LOL. And if they/he takes it that far I think we'd be witnessing some kind of watershed event on the influecne of the religious right on the Republican Party, and it won't be good for either.

This was all just suppose to be a show for the religious nuts, but its already gone too far, using force ,US Marshalls or the National Gurad or whatever would be political suicide.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:20 PM
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15. When you rule through the power of the mob mentality;
the mob mentality eventually has the power to rule over you.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:22 PM
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16. Just keep whispering "Civil Disobedience is Courageous!" in his ear.
The Bushtard can't comprehend that it doesn't apply to the Chief Executive of a state.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:24 PM
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17. We stand by and watch him implode
He won't do it - he cares about his own political future more than he cares about Terri Schiavo. I wish like hell he would, though.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:26 PM
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18. If Jeb does nothing; Terri's death is on his hands.
Only he has the power to save her, now. The courts have failed. One man. One action.

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delhurgo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:28 PM
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21. Yes, liberals are trying to kill Terri Shiavo.
Why doesn't Jeb do something!!!! LOL
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:29 PM
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22. Yes indeed....have him arrested....nt
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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:35 PM
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24. He's stepped in it good
He and shrub were hoping to just make a gesture and say they did what they could, but that isn't good enough. You can never please these people and now they will do something really stupid and show the world just what they are about. Somebody is going to get hurt and it's on Jeb's hands.
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:39 PM
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25. Jeb is one of the Bush kids, which means he's a coward through and through
He won't do anything except whine and moan and try to deflect the anger the fundies are going to direct at him. He thought he was gonna score some easy political points with the religious nutballs, and now it's backfiring on him.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 04:34 AM
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27. Assuming the Bushs do nothing more
Perhaps this will be the beginning of a schism between the religious fanatics and the cheap labor Republicans.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 04:40 AM
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28. Let'em. Then sit back and watch the headless chicken race
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 04:41 AM by Solly Mack
Truly, if certain stakes were not so high, America would be nothing more than a comedy show about asylum inmates and their equally quirky caretakers (who happen to be former patients)....with guest appearances by those who act as the "straight man" to all the mayhem around them. We'd be the "straight man" to their craziness..
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 04:43 AM
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29. Please DO IT! you stupid lizard!
Any excuse or reason to get him in court, under oath, and in the spotlight is fine by me.

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