CBS: 82% of the people say President and Congress should stay out. Yep.

[spanone]

As in keeping out of our business. AMEN. Can you say backfire.

<snip>An overwhelming 82 percent of the public believes the Congress and President should stay out of the matter. <snip>


Here's the link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/23/politics/main682619.shtml

[ET Awful]

1. LOL, IMPLOSION!

How long 'til we have to send out the street cleaners to sweep up Freeper brain matter as their heads explode? :)

[wryter2000]

2. eighty-effing-two!?!?

Holy backlash, Batman. :bounce:

[havocmom]

3. go beyond responding to a poll; tell them yourself via moveon.org

they have an easy form to use. Get it out there to all your contacts.

http://www.moveonpac.org/grandstanding/?id=5254-3131616-qtpo.FgomGLDULCq6UiJfA

[spanone]

Thanks!

[havocmom]

18. You are most welcome.

Help get the word (and link) out if you can spare a few minutes.

[wryter2000]

4. Oh, hey

Is there a link for this? Is it on their website? CBS or CBSnews?

[patrice]

5. Hey, they still get major points with their base.

They get to look like martyrs. Lots of emotional bonding with the folks at home. It's win win for them.

[ProfessorGAC]

23. The Base Doesn't Win Them Elections

The base is that dumbass 18%. 18% doesn't win any elections. It's the middle that wins these elections and these guys have exposed themselves to many middle americans to be the hypocrites and charlatans they are.

The Dems, down the road not now, need to remind people that these guys politicized this family tragedy for their own gain, and remind those same people who the good guys are.
The Professor

[Tace]

24. 13% : )

[ProfessorGAC]

26. I Stand Corrected on the Number; The Point Doesn't Change

The Professor

[Junkdrawer]

31. I've been screaming the 18% number since the election...

All during the 80's and 90's, the 18% number was used describe the Fundie/Limbaughite base.

Reasonable people don't just wake up one day and say: "Gee, I think I'll be a fundie dittohead". It's a fixed number and the explosion of the number to 45% proportions after the election was obscene and another clue that the election was stolen.

[LondonReign2]

36. The Dems better drive a stake through the rupubs "hearts"

Between this and the Soc Sec overreach, the Dems better speak up and be sure America finally understands what these Theocons are really all about.

[progressiveBadger]

33. Yeah, but if your base is 18% of the country

and you just turned away the other 82%, I would hardly call that a win.

[FreedomAngel82]

37. I agree

I think with them it's a lose-lose sort of ordeal. If they are successful with this they'll only have eighteen or thirteen precent of the country to win elections. I've been reading a lot of the real republicans who believe that the government should stay out of issues like this are turning away from the party and people called in CSPAN and said they were leaving the party over this issue a lone! If they aren't successful at this the fundies will be angry at them and might not vote next term.

[deadparrot]

6. I hope America doesn't forget this. nt

[yankeedem]

12. I hope Democrats don't forget this in 2006

The best strategy for now is to stand aside, and say "I'm not going there".

But in 2006, every ad for every Rep, "moderate" or Neocon, should remind people how Republicans stood between a man and his wife.

[deadparrot]

13. Yes. They need to be proactive.

Dean needs to kick it up a notch higher than usual.

[FreedomAngel82]

38. I think so too

I think for 2006 this will be a good issue to use along with SS, minimum wage, the war, etc. After 2006 I think it would be wrong to use this at all.

[sonicx]

7. here's a link

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/23/opinion/polls/main682674.shtml

<<An overwhelming 82 percent of the public believes the Congress and President should stay out of the matter. There is widespread cynicism about Congress' motives for getting involved: 7 percent say Congress intervened to advance a political agenda, not because they cared what happened to Terri Schiavo. Public approval of Congress has suffered as a result; at 34 percent, it is the lowest it has been since 1997, dropping from 41 percent last month. Now at 43 percent, President Bush’s approval rating is also lower than it was a month ago.>>

edit: this article has a typo. it shoud read: "74 percent say Congress intervened to advance a political agenda..."

[hippiegranny]

9. more good stuff from the link

thanks, sonicx, for providing it!

WHY DO YOU THINK CONGRESS GOT INVOLVED?

They care about Terri Schiavo
13%
Trying to advance political agenda
74%

Congress' involvement in the case may have damaged the public’s view of that institution. In this poll, 34 percent approve of the way Congress is handling its job, down from 41 percent last month, while 49 percent now disapprove, up from 44 percent last month. This is the lowest approval rating Congress has received since December 1997, in the wake of Congressional hearings into Democratic fundraising practices.

CONGRESS JOB APPROVAL

Approve
Now
34%
2/2005
41%

Disapprove
Now
49%
2/2005
44%

THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT
In general, Americans believe the issue of whether a family can remove a patient from life support is not for government at any level to decide. Just 9 percent say the Federal government should decide such matters, 13 percent say these are state matters, and 75 percent say government should stay out altogether.

ROLE OF GOVERNMENT IN DECIDING LIFE SUPPORT CASES

Federal government should decide
9%
State government should decide
13%
Government should stay out
75%

Americans of all political persuasions -- Republicans, Democrats, conservatives and liberals alike -- share similar feelings on this issue.

The public also foresees troubling ramifications from this case: two-thirds are concerned that Congress' actions in this matter will set a precedent, making it easier for the legislature to intervene in individuals' lives in the future.

[MsTryska]

32. and our meme to any and every american we come across

From now on, should be: “This is what happens when you let republicans control congress. They get involved in your personal life, to the detriment of all else. They did it the last time they were in power, and they are doing it now. Remember the circus Newt Gingrich started?”

[onenote]

11. that should be 74 percent not 7 percent -typo in story

[Jacobin]

15. Hasn't been this low since congress attempted the first coup and tried

to impeach Clinton for getting a blowjob.

[kliljedahl]

48. 74% ?

Need I suggest we keep (incessantly) reminding them it's a Republican congress.


http://www.kliljedahl.net

[EVDebs]

8. Durrrrrr. That's a no-brainer (sorry, couldn't resist) n/t

[onenote]

10. big time typo in the story

It says 7 percent think Congress got involved for political reasons. The number actually is 74 percent.

onenote

[spanone]

16. This here is straight from the CBS website.

<snip> Just 13 percent of those polled think Congress intervened in the case out of concern for Schiavo, while 74 percent think it was all about politics. Of those polled, 66 percent said the tube should not be inserted compared to 27 percent who want it restored. The issue has generated strong feelings, with 78 percent of those polled -- wheter for either side of the issue -- saying they have strong feelings<snip>

[sonicx]

19. the story in the link i posted had a typo, he meant

:)

[vi5]

14. I hope that it read "should have stayed out"...stating what it is...

..they DIDN'T stay out. If they phrased the poll as hypothetical then that's ridiculous and letting these idiots off the hook. They didn't stay out of anyone's business. ANd they are hypocrites.

[Emboldened Chimp]

17. And the best part: Chimpy's Approval rating at 43%....

(snip)

"Now at 43 percent, President Bush’s approval rating is also lower than it was a month ago."

How low will it go...?

[Lone_Star_Dem]

21. As more moderate republicans are separating from Bush

We may get to see just how many radical right there really are. I'm guessing his fundie base is not nearly as large as they've led us to believe.

[lancdem]

29. It's not

They just make a lot of noise.

[Democracy White]

35. Hopefully low enough

To get Chimpy boy impeached, ya think?

Dee

[kliljedahl]

49. Hoping for 0%

Impeach the Chimp!!





http://www.kliljedahl.net

[gizmo1979]

20. IE Keep your fucking nose out of peoples

private affairs assholes!

[ClintonTyree]

22. Does this mean the Sheeple are finally waking up?

Might they start paying attention to all the other transgressions this Maladministration has committed? :shrug:

I'm not getting my hopes up. I've done that before, only to have my hopes dashed against the rocks. Wouldn't it be nice though if everyone woke up at the same time? What would happen? Revolution? Impeachment? Trials? Jail Sentences for these worthy felons?

Nope, nope. I'm not even going to start thinking that way. Baby steps, baby steps. One little thing at a time. At least they're not buying this bullshit and the Social Security scam. I have to be thankful for that and not expect any epiphanies from the American public.

There, I feel much better now. Until the next news cycle, then I'll lose my mind again! :crazy:

[Tace]

25. Now Is The Time To Attack!

Unleash our full political offensive while they are gasping on the ropes.

[ucmike]

27. repubs and fundies will see it this way

not as 82% against govt intrusion, but as an 18% MANDATE to save terri and to build and maintain our theocracy.

[LuminousX]

28. Republican power in government is unchecked and unbalanced

and this travesty is just the lastest example of it.

[mondo joe]

30. I feel like I'm in America again.

Seriously - since the election I've felt like I was in a foreign country.

[Junkdrawer]

34. .

[maveric]

39. Latest poll: Why did Congress get involved in the Terri Schiavo case?

Concern for Terri Schaivo - 12.43%

Politics - 87.57%

[byronius]

40. Leave it to the Darkhearts of the World...

...they always eventually overreach, screw up, and lose. The Republicans are only good at one thing -- gaining power in the US through nefarious means. Everything else -- they suck at. Bad decisions abound. No wisdom, no truth, no spark, no connection with any real spirituality. Only the penchant for gnawing at the ropes of reality. Thank the Universe for this fact -- it's the only way humanity survives. Evil R Dorks.

[riffraff_va]

41. Look on the bright side...

...now, Republicans are going to blame judges for the moral decay of America, and not us liberals.

And if Republicans keep siding with the far-right side and the Christian radicals of their base, they will end up losing alot of their moderates.

[tjdee]

42. They don't vote, so who cares?

82% is more than happy to flap their gums about their opinion, but just over 50% is bothered to vote for President, and MUCH less than that for Congressional races.



There aren't as many fundies as people think, but I guarantee you every single one of them is voting. They get it.

[riffraff_va]

43. Bravo tjdee

You are absolutely right tjdee. They aren't as many of fundies as the media many make you think there are. In fact, they are alot of "religious" people in America as you think. In survey done on MSNBC, over 55% of the people believes in God saw themselves as "spiritual" rather than "religious".

And since the Democrats don't speak to neither one of these people, the "spiritual" people tend to side with the Republicans more often because their views are closest to theirs.

Think of it as a politician who sides with the feminist. A women may not be a "feminist" but she'll more likely vote for this politician because the politicians views are closest to hers. Get it.

[manxkat]

44. Now if only 82% would say YES to impeaching BUSH

and his entire cabinet and the entire Repugnican leadership. Who am I kidding?

[AuntiBush]

45. Where's their mandate now!?! Implosion, in deed!

What goes up, will always come straight back down!

Everything comes out in the wash, eventually.

[LevelB]

46. Looks like we were all wrong...

Bush is a Uniter, not a Divider. ;)

B.

(Can't resist a cheap shot)

[bush_is_wacko]

47. Check the results of the poll on WHY Americans think congress got

Involved!

Concern for Terri Schiavo:
13.17%
Politics:
86.83%