HERE WE GO FOLKS! "Gov.Jeb seeks to take custody of Schiavo"

[Bluebear]

4 minutes ago

PINELLAS PARK, Fla. - Terri Schiavo's parents saw their options vanish one by one Wednesday as a federal appeals court refused to re-insert her feeding tube and the Florida Legislature decided not to intervene in the epic struggle. Refusing to give up, Gov. Jeb Bush sought court permission to take custody of Schiavo.

The desperate flurry of activity came as President Bush suggested that Congress and the White House had done all they could to keep the severely brain-damaged woman alive.

As of Wednesday afternoon, Schiavo had gone five full days without food or water; doctors have said she could survive one to two weeks.

Supporters of Schiavo's parents grew increasingly dismayed, and 10 protesters were arrested outside her hospice for trying to bring her water.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050323/ap_on_re_us/brain_damaged_woman_70

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Ok will sound sick

go Jebby GO!

Please show to the country how insane you truly are....

;-)

What worries me is that randall terry IS involved in this now

[Bluebear]

3. This may finally break the camel's back....

either that or demonstrate that this country IS ready for a total police state under the Bush clan.

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. ironically this may be the tipping point

or as I keep hinting a Fort Sumter event

[deadparrot]

9. Sadly, I agree.

I want Terri Schiavo to rest in peace. But I'm also kind of morbidly interested in seeing to what length these lunatics would go to.

[FreedomAngel82]

20. I agree

And it's so like big brother to take care of the situation. Bush claimed he and Congress couldn't do anything so now they won't blame him they'll blame his brother. These people are freakin nuts!

[regnaD kciN]

15. I'm almost tempted to agree...

At this point, public sentiment is against those wanting to keep her in a vegetative state. However, once she dies, I fear that sentiment will swing back the other way, as the predominant emotions will be sadness at her death and sympathy with her (birth) family's loss. All that will be remembered about the Schindlers and their Republican backers is that they "heroically, if vainly, sought to save her life," and the issue will be framed as to how they were "kept from saving her" by the "death Democrats."

Looking at it cynically, I'd have to agree with the BugMan -- that this case could provide a political windfall for the Repugs, but only when she dies. On the other hand, as long as she's kept alive, the issue works for us, not them.

Of course, that would merely be treating Terri as a political pawn, just as the Republicans are seeking to do.

[The Doctor.]

28. What's Randall Terry's Email?

We should ask him where the hell he was when a hospital let a little baby die against the mother's wishes...


http://lawnorder.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/19/18544/7086

[CO Liberal]

2. Why Do You Expect a Bush To Follow the Law???

Remember, we're talking about Neil and George's brother, and Noell's father.

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. And The Nazi supporter, Prescott Bush's Grandson.

:grr:

[katinmn]

4. Judge Greer bars law enforcement from entering hospital

This is getting intense.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1335795&mesg_id=1336323&page=

[EVDebs]

5. He'd better have a facility up to par in order to care for her just like

the hospice she was in. BTW, will Medicare continue to fund her care or are GOP activists going to do that ?

[mondo joe]

6. Oh good - now she'll end up a drug addict!

Like I'd want that loser of a parent getting custody of a pet rock.

[NYC]

7. Judge Greer ordered law enforcement to prevent Jeb

and the Dept. of Children and Families from gaining physical access to T. Schiavo.

The woman from DCF said they don't need a court order. They can file for one within 24 hours of taking custody. (There is an article in the Palm Beach Post.)

It sounds as though Jeb will not make this attempt, though.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. I am willing to bet 10 virtual bucks he will once again

sign an Executive Order

[NYC]

27. An executive order to reinsert the tube?

Who would carry it out?

Edit: And how will he get past the law enforcement that Greer posted at the hospice?

[Just Me]

16. Okay. Now, I am praying to God that Terri finally can go home,...

,...in spite of all the human beings playing god, manipulating facts to empower themselves, selfishly asserting their power while demonstrating no respect whatsoever for the ALIVE Terri,...when she was a living participant,...and indicated that, in her mind, living without the capacity to independently act in one's own life,...is no life.

:cry:

I truly wish control freaks would get control over themselves instead of imposing their will on the most powerless among us.

[DeepModem Mom]

30. I join you, Just Me -- I was just thinking the same about this poor woman

Enough, enough.

:cry:

[Just Me]

33. I love this woman enough to be outraged at others' manipulation of her.

:cry:

I just cannot believe any normal, caring, compassionate human being could possibly allow these control freaks to use her in such a way!!!

Is our sense of humanity being completely SPENT by those who proclaim MANDATES and impose their will,...in such a way?

I just feel so,...horrified at what this country has become.

Yet, I do feel that, when Terri is finally released from the control of evil hearts,...I will celebrate her peace.

[LiberalFighter]

34. Greer needs to require an affidavit from the person alledging abuse

and then throw the book at the person for making false statements and DCF for not investigating the truthfulness.

[NYC]

41. Can he do that before DCF takes custody?

I would think not.

Edit: I don't know that DCF ever actually went to the hospice. They (& Jeb) were saying they would take custody based on claims of abuse.

[tammywammy]

10. This is just disgusting

When the law doesn't go your way, make up new ones, when that doesn't work, fuck it, break the law.

[K-W]

14. These people know only the law of the jungle.

Other laws are simply means to an end, to be discarded when no longer helpful.

[tammywammy]

17. Yeah, it's definitely my way or the highway

Fuck Rights. Fuck the Constitution.

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. That hospice must look like a war zone.

I feel so sorry for Michael. Surely he has protection?

[Bluebear]

19. How about all the other families at the hospice?

Crossing fundy picket lines telling them they are "murdering" their loved ones by letting them go? Disgraceful!

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. Yeah. THAT must be HORRIBLE for them.

:cry: It's not bad enough that their loved one is DYING, they now have to deal with these JERKS.

[havocmom]

26. been happening to women at Planned Parenthood clincs for some time now

We are facing a not so civil war if we are to maintain our rights and freedoms in the face of mobs of control freak cultists.

[FreedomAngel82]

29. People are so misguided about the hospice

People on the right now really do think that hospice is a place to go when you want to take your loved one to "murder" them. Ugh! I'm so sick of this!

[regnaD kciN]

22. That's one thing that worries me...

...I keep thinking that, once she dies, one of those clinic-bomber types may decide to take "revenge" on Michael for "killing Terri." I think he would have about the same level of safety as Salman Rushdie taking a leisurely stroll through downtown Tehran.

:scared:

[tammywammy]

39. Yes, I fear for Michael and Judge Greer's safety after the passes on.

Let me put on my tinfoil hat :tinfoilhat:
I picture a good ol' fashion riot.

[Neecy]

18. hmmmm

I wonder if the American public will finally wake up when the Christian coup d'etat takes place in Florida. Jeb and his mullahs might finally scare the shit out of them (doubtful, but we can hope).

[AlCzervik]

21. This whole thing is just really grotesque

in every sense of the word-grotesque abuse of power, grotesque exploitation.

[arcos]

24. They should let them give her water...

If she dies of asphyxiation instead of dehydration the true stupidity of fundies will be more than obvious for everyone.

[in_cog_ni_to]

25. And then we could charge them with MURDER...legitimately. n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

31. Yep

Every one of them. Maybe then they'd get it through their thick skulls (one can dream).

[LiberalFighter]

35. They SHOULD charge everyone that attempted to take water to Terri...

with attempted murder

[Mr_Spock]

32. Remember "The Truman Show"? The new version "The Terri Show"

They will have a TV on her 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. We will all sit there and vegetatively watch a dead person vegetate to "enhance" our lives - the ultimate reality show!

[Flammable Materials]

36. At this point, I've got my marshmallows and I'm waiting for the fire. n/t

Public opinion is against this right-wing Circus of Death.

Go, Jeb, Go. Go nuts.

[spanone]

37. What Court???? They will need proof of abuse.

[maveric]

38. THIS IS DISGUSTING! WE HAVE NO CONSTITUTION IF THIS IS

ALLOWED!
WHO THE FUCK IS JEB BU$H NOT HONORING THE CONSTITUTION?

[dflprincess]

40. Given how well Jeb's children all turned out

I can't imagine any social service agency or court that would find him fit to be anybody's guardian.

[Disturbed]

42. Defintion of death?

Let this body die? Is there a person involved in this body called Terry
Schiavo?

I say that rabid dogs are feeding on a corpse.

[ultraist]

43. She would be a ward of the State. Jeb would not be the guardian

They cannot give non-kin guardianship without that person going through training.

They have tried this before and the last report of abuse they made, Adult protective services refused to investigate saying it was a false report, just a ploy.

APS is not obligated to investigate every report. They determine which ones warrant investigation. Those that do, must be done within 48 hours (at least in my state). They do need a judge to approve a court order to remove someone. This can be done by phone and doesn't require a trial. Again, this is how it works in my state. Laws vary on this state to state.

[UTUSN]

44. Kick n/t