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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 02:47 PM
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The Terri Schiavo case is NOT about disability rights
How on earth could anyone conflate Terri Schiavo's right to die with disability issues?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 02:54 PM
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1. It is Bullshit...Something that the RWFundies are very good at.
Edited on Wed Mar-23-05 02:55 PM by BrklynLiberal
Like magician doing one of those tricks where they pull a coin out of your nose.
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deek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 03:09 PM
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2. ummmmmmmm
people with disabilities and their advocates?

doh
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 03:26 PM
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5. Only those with an axe to grind
or who hope to deprive the disabled of the right to choose, like the group "Not Dead Yet"
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 03:40 PM
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8. Just wonder if you realize you just posted that to a person who has a
disability.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 03:43 PM
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9. Yes I do
What's your point?

People with disabilities are just as capable of being wrong on a subject as people without disabilities. And I speak from personal experience on this topic!
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 03:15 PM
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3. Bush's Nominee for the 4th Circuit is totally anti-disabled
Terrence Boyle, now a District Judge, was nominated by Bush for a seat on the US Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit.

The judicial record of appeals court nominee Terrence Boyle is marked by an unusually high percentage of decisions reversed by higher courts and a series of rulings that is damaging to individuals’ ability to have their rights protected in court, according to a detailed report on Boyle’s record released People For the American Way, a national civil rights and constitutional liberties organization.

With respect to the Americans With Disabilities Act - he is even more anti-ADA then Scalia and Thomas. See his decisions in Pierce and Brown.

Check out the PFAW report on Boyle-- http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/dfiles/file_496.pdf

If Bushco is such a friend of the disabled how can he explain or rationalize the nomination of Boyle - or cutting money for spinal cord and brain injuries.

I am glad I am not a Faith Based Compassionate Conservative (but I am a Faith Based Compassionate Progressive Radic-Lib)

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 03:25 PM
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4. Sure it is. It is about making a decision when the person who should have
decided is no longer capable of deciding for themselves and that affects many many persons with disabilities.

While I do feel the available medical evidence indicates that Terri Schiavo is beyond all hope of recovery and while I do feel a persistent vegetative state times 15 years indicates that the ONLY thing keeping her alive is food and that there is NO life there, I do firmly stand in the camp of the disabled on the issue of HOW we arrive at these conclusions and the lack of standards from state to state.


They are right to ask for stricter oversight. I don't feel a mistake is being made in the matter of Terri Schiavo, but I would rather stand with people with disabilities in the hopes that a mistake is never made than to discredit their concerns.

I don't know that I necessarily agree with them that they will do better in a federal court, but I do understand why they have some reticence in this matter. Having worked with severely brain injured individuals, I can COMPLETELY empathize with why this matter is so chilling to people with disabilities. I simply disagree with them that Schiavo is disabled.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 03:27 PM
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6. The same way they convoluted it with feminism
Didn't you read the RW memo of talking points? This case is about spousal abuse and disability rights.
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deek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 06:17 PM
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10. Disability advocates were concerned about Terri
way long before the RW fanatics saw an opportunity to further their own agenda.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 03:29 PM
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7. Correct. It's about a dangerous melting of government & religious,...
,...tyranny.

That's what this is really about,...politicians using religious extremists to manipulate the masses and further usurp power unto themselves.
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