TO newbie 'manna' ThankYouThankYouThankYOU! fer this INFO!

[SpaceBuddy008]

Humanity's cosmic-energy income account consists entirely of our gravity-and star (99 percent Sun)-distributed cosmic dividends of water power, tidal power, wave power, wind power, vegetation-produced alcohols, methane gas, vulcanism, and so on. Humanity's present rate of total energy consumption amounts to only one four-millionth of one percent of the rate of its energy income.

...Ninety-nine percent of humanity does not know that we have the option to "make it" economically on this planet and in the Universe. We do.”

http://www.bfi.org /

That is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Fuller and design science. his whole philosophy resonated with the over abundance which we can now enjoy. He mathematically worked out the potential of 40 billion humans living well on the planet, none in want.

Here’s a link to fullers 42 hour 'everything I know' discussion on... everything he knew http://memeticdrift.net/bucky/index.html

IT REALLY PROPELS MY RESEARCH INTO THIS CRUCIAL AREA, WITH BEING GOUGED AT THE PUMP AND ALL-BY THE CARELESS CORPS, BIGOIL..WHICH MORE THAN ANY OTHER CORPS OWN THE GOV.

I remember listening to audio tapes of Bucky 20 years ago and being totallly fascinated and knocked off my rocker!

THIS IS A LINK TO THE POST, CUZ OTHERS MIGHT WANT TO CHECK OUT
"GEODESIC HEAD"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3276506&mesg_id=3285437&page=

IT IS FROM GREAT, NECESSARY THREAD BY 'RADWRITER0555'
@ http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3276506&mesg_id=3276506&page=

THANK YOU ALSO

AND THEN 'MANNA' THANKS AGAIN FOR LINK TO DOCUMENTATION OF 'OIL HOAX 1973' YOU HELPED ME FIND THIS, AS IN THE LITTLE TIME i HAD TO LOOK, WAS UNABLE TO!

The Fake Oil Crisis of 1973


http://questionsquestions.net/docs04/peakoil1.html

Some "peak oil" writers have opined that the crisis of 1972-73 was a kind of "rehearsal" for what is supposedly in our very near future. It is startling to consider, in light of this, the evidence that that crisis was likely a completely contrived affair.

In "A Century of War -- Anglo American Oil Politics and the New World Order" (1992), petroleum industry expert and economist F. William Engdahl presents evidence that the 1973 OPEC "oil shock" and the accompanying oil "shortage" were secretly planned by the highest levels of the US and British elites, with Henry Kissinger playing a key role:
http://earth.prohosting.com/~jswift/engdahl.html

A concise summary of the entire book can be found here:
http://how-the-world-really-work...ctor.com/a-century-o...

Corroboration of Engdahl's account was provided a few years agb by Sheikh Ahmed Zaki Yamani, who was Saudi Arabia's OPEC minister at the time:

'I am 100 per cent sure that the Americans were behind the increase in the price of oil. The oil companies were in in real trouble at that time, they had borrowed a lot of money and they needed a high oil price to save them.'

He says he was convinced of this by the attitude of the Shah of Iran, who in one crucial day in 1974 moved from the Saudi view, that a hike would be dangerous to Opec because it would alienate the US, to advocating higher prices.

'King Faisal sent me to the Shah of Iran, who said: "Why are you against the increase in the price of oil? That is what they want? Ask Henry Kissinger - he is the one who wants a higher price".'

Yamani contends that proof of his long-held belief has recently emerged in the minutes of a secret meeting on a Swedish island, where UK and US officials determined to orchestrate a 400 per cent increase in the oil price.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,6903,42...


GEEZ! I really am beginning to believe the WHOLE 20th century has been one HOAX after another!

Why don't some of these 'naysayers' SEE that we are trying to HELP them and a more healthy, creative climate for us to learn and live in
by spreading truths.

to live in an outdated paradigm and maybe not realize it and have sunk costs in crusty conventional thinking is so simple, stubborn, stiflin' and stupid.

IT IS SO SIMPLE TO JUST CHANGE ONE'S MIND

AND IMPERATIVE WITH ALL THE POPULARITY OF SPREADING irRATIONALITY, VITAL TO REPEL TO PREVENT OUR 'HOME' FROM GOING TO...
HELL-IN A-HANDBASKET.
*****


Sartori

money Or Moxie
cash Or Creativity
brawn Or Brains
hubris Or Heart
moolah Or 'MANNA'
shimmer Or SHINE!

[brainshrub]

1. What the HECK are you TALKING ABOUT?

If you want to LEARN EVERYTHING about the cosmic ENERGIES that are so important simply visit this site:

http://www.timecube.com/

It shatters ALL THE MYTHS of our TIME!!!!!!!!!!

[alittlelark]

10. That site was somewhat interesting - till I got to the racist stuff.

[SpaceBuddy008]

12. UNravel my thread? POUNCE on w/ racist site.same tactic @dKos!

yes! they use the exact same timecube site over at Kos, when one posts some consensus reality stretching INfo

please try to be more productive

the way you capitalize heck and talking about, makes me think you are trying to smear me as some sort of loon

but it really does not bother me

though i can not understand why so many are helping to
DeLay The Rennaissance?

[muriel_volestrangler]

2. I'm interested in the secret meeting

What do the minutes say? By the way, some of your links don't work (I suspect you did a cut'n'paste from DU, so you picked up the '...' rather than the true destination for the link). Here's the Observer article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/oil/story/0,11319,611109,00.html

[SpaceBuddy008]

4. thanks for fixed link, that is the only one. and BrainShrub maybe....

BrainShrub

a wise man said if you don't know what i am talking about may be it was not meant for you?

I am trying to uphold & imProve my RESPONSE ABILITY!

[muriel_volestrangler]

6. No, there's another link not working

The one under: "A concise summary of the entire book can be found here:" (not so easy to use Google to find the correct link for that).

So, what do the minutes of the meeting say?

[BrklynLiberal]

3. This is from 2002. More "tinfoil hat"stuff ? I don't think so.

From a question and answer forum at the Commonwealth Club in 2002.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - February 28, 2002

http://www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/02/02-02kennedy-qa.html

Q: Recently a federal judge compelled the Department of Energy to release documents related to the Vice President's Energy Task Force. How significant is this, and what will be the environmental impact of the Bush-Cheney energy plan?
A: The Bush-Cheney energy plan is a $34 billion subsidy to the oil industry, the nuke industry and the coal industry. There is language in the plan that expresses a strong love and favor for conservation, and there are 11 conservation and renewable programs, but none of them are funded. There's no money in the budget or the bill; it's all going to big oil, big coal and big nuke, which don't need the money. These are industries that gave $60 million to Republican congressional candidates during the last cycle – more than any other industry – and Bush is the largest beneficiary. They're getting $34 billion in return, and it's a disastrous policy for our country. The plan says we should study CAFE standards – Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards. We don't need to; we know they work.

If we raise Corporate Average Fuel Economy by one mile per gallon, we get more oil than there is in two Arctic National Wildlife Refuges. If we raise efficiency by 2.7 miles per gallon, we eliminate 100 percent of Gulf imports into this country.

President Carter passed CAFE standards in response to the second oil crisis in 1979. Within six years, we had raised average fuel economy by seven-and-a-half miles per gallon. That efficiency caused an oil glut in this country, collapsing the price of gasoline to the lowest levels in decades. Oil companies went to the Reagan administration and persuaded them to roll back CAFE standards. The Gingrich Congress subsequently made it illegal for the government to pass them. If Reagan hadn't done that we would not have imported one drop of Gulf oil into this country after 1986.

We almost certainly wouldn't have had a Gulf War, and if you can follow the logic from there, we probably wouldn't be involved in Afghanistan today and the World Trade Center might still be standing. We could have avoided price shocks on the international oil markets, entanglements with countries in the Middle East that are unstable and hostile to us and we would all be richer because instead of spending $3,000 a year on gasoline, individuals would be saving $1,500. We would have generated enough savings to pay off the national debt since 1986 and we would all be breathing cleaner air and be richer as individuals. That's a real energy plan. "

Thank you SOS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3290068

[SpaceBuddy008]

5. sorry i did have typo, that may have been confusing,in this line..

AND IMPERATIVE WITH ALL THE POPULARITY OF SPREADING RATIONALITY, VITAL TO REPEL TO PREVENT OUR 'HOME' FROM GOING TO...
HELL-IN A-HANDBASKET.

it should have read: IRRATIONALITY!!!!

[muriel_volestrangler]

7. You can edit your own post up to an hour after you first made them

Look for the 'Edit' option at the bottom right of the box - next to 'Reply'.

[SpaceBuddy008]

8. thnks PARTNER!

DUN....

[Snotcicles]

9. Heres is where I putting my money

http://www.energyconversiondevices.com/

[seemslikeadream]

11. A geodesic dome kick

for Bucky and SIU




Our beds are empty 2/3rds of the time. Our living rooms are empty 7/8ths of the time. Our office buildings are empty 1/2 of the time. It's time we gave this some thought.
--R. Buckminster Fuller