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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 02:58 PM
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DU Democratic Senator Hall of Shame
Edited on Wed Mar-16-05 02:59 PM by Walt Starr
Those Democrats who voted in favor of despoiling wilderness in ANWR were:

Akaka (D-HI)
Inouye (D-HI)
Landrieu (D-LA)

and a new feature, the Republicans who should be given a (slight) break because for ohnce they bucked the system and voted for what was right rather than for expedience when dealing with the chimperor:

Chafee (R-RI)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
DeWine (R-OH)
McCain (R-AZ)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)

Expect all seven of these individuals to be targeted for termination in their next primary by the RNC.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:01 PM
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1. Wonder if we can start bringing McCain around?
Surely he's getting sick of *'s shit by now, right? maybe a few well placed "good boy's" will help.

"Good boy! You're a good boy, John! Yes, you are!"
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The Revolution Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:05 PM
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3. I doubt it
After the shit Bush pulled during the 2000 campaign, McCain still went on stage and hugged him during the last campaign (and boy was it creepy :scared: )
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VelvetMonkeyWrench Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:24 PM
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24. McCain is interested in only one thing: promoting McCain
Sure he got mugged by W, but more and more he's looking like a basic weasle.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 08:03 PM
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34. Not as creepy as big Joe's sloppy kiss from *
Now that was creepy. Mob-style creepy.
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 06:47 PM
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31. McCain is a liar all the way around - I wouldn't trust him
as far as I could throw him - and that ain't far!!
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 08:37 PM
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39. Yet he'll vote...
...once in a great while, against his political interests. While he has almost nothing in the way of integrity (or his head would explode at the compromises he must constantly make), he often shows a desire--however heavily disguised--to do the right thing.

Today's vote probably used up all his political capital for the year. Why he doesn't join the party that would allow him to vote what's left of his conscience is beyond me. Someone must have embarrassing photos of him with a goat.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 08:44 PM
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43. Or with a box turtle
Either way, McCain has shown that he is only a lapdog to *.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 08:33 PM
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35. Nope he's too wrapped up with his new cable kick backs...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 08:42 PM
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42. I wonder too
Edited on Wed Mar-16-05 08:43 PM by FreedomAngel82
I still think they threatned him or something to be on his side. I always saw him so uncomfortable around W. :shrug: I think if he backstabbed Bush he'd get destroyed.
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:03 PM
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2. we need oil rigs in Hawaii....nt.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:19 PM
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22. Nope. Wind machines in front of every beach...
Do unto others...
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:58 PM
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27. Wonder how they would feel in HI if only wingers vacationed there n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:06 PM
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4. Chafee, Snowe, Collins, yes
They vote for what is right ALOT. As often as some of our Dems, actually.

Smith? No fucking way. He pretends to be moderate, but when you really dig into his votes, he isn't. He shamed himself last year with several slanderous remarks during the campaign. Blech.

After last year, I'll never trust McCain again.

Coleman and DeWine? lol. One vote doesn't get on my good side.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:14 PM
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6. Why aren't Chafee, Snowe & Collins Dems
I can't understand how anyone in the northeast can vote Repub. The Repubs have nothing but contempt for that part of the country.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:23 PM
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9. Because they are from NE
NE Republicans are more liberal than some of our Southern Democrats (with the notable exception of NH senators).
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:33 PM
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11. But many southern Dems became Repubs
Why doesn't it work the other way around?
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 06:51 PM
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32. DumbWitt is up for re-election, in 2006 - he knows that all of
us here in Ohio voted Dem and that our votes were stollen, so he's just trying to gain some ground with us - don't trust the dumbWitt
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:08 PM
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5. DeWine?!
First he supports McCain over Bush in 2000, then he supports campaign finance reform and now this. Who would have thought that little bastard could be right about anything?
:shrug:
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loro mi dicevano Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:36 PM
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13. I thought I was hearing things when I heard his name mentioned with the
ayes!
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 07:27 PM
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33. dumbWitt up for election in 2006 - he's trying to save his as*
Edited on Wed Mar-16-05 07:28 PM by sickinohio
cause he knows we in Ohio didn't REALLY vote for the rePukes!!

by the way: Mike Coleman in 2006!!!
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:14 PM
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7. Chafee also deserves some props...
...for voting to block the "Clear Skies" Act (choke on that, Mr. Orwell) in the Environment & Public Works Committee last week. The Democrats on that committee held firm, and Jeffords voted with them, but they couldn't have done it without one R crossing the aisle, and he did. Chafee took the biggest risk there. He's good on the environment for a Repub.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:36 PM
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14. But isn't Chaffee voting the way his constiuents want
Shouldn't there be pressure on him to change parties?

The people in my Congressional District kept reelecting a very nice Repub who often voted with Dems. FINALLY, we liberal Dems understood that although she often voted the way we wanted, she ALWAYS voted for the Repubs to lead the House. (She would also vote with the Repubs against our interests if the vote was close and the Repubs needed her vote to pass a bill.)

I think Rhode Island would elect a Dem senator because Dems represent the interests of Rhode Islanders better than Repubs.

It's time for Chafee to come over to the good side or to face a strong Dem challenger.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:51 PM
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15. Sure, which is what they're supposed to do
It just seems striking in his case because so many don't!

Oh, I absolutely agree that he should either come over or be replaced; that caucus majority would be VERY nice to have, and RI is pretty damn blue; it's perfectly doable if a good Dem candidate comes up and I hope it happens.

But that doesn't mean that in the meantime, we can't thank him when he helps us on important issues, as he did here. That helps us too indirectly because every call, every e-mail reinforces the meme that the American people WANT environmental protections, they WANT strict pollution control. 'Cause we do. :thumbsup:
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:00 PM
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16. Chaffee deserves our thanks
I'm just saying that this was an easy vote for him. It wasn't an easy vote for all of the Dems who voted against drilling.

Since the Repubs have knocked off so many of our guys for doing the right thing, I think it's only fair to claim the seat for a an actual Dem, be it Chaffee who switches or a Dem who challenges him.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:19 PM
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8. What's the DEAL with the Coconut Twins?
Too Many Friggin' Luau's???:shrug:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:25 PM
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10. Or the volcano ash has clogged their brains. Either way,
they can go to hell. They were bombarded with phone calls and emails yesterday and chose to IGNORE them. Bastards.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:50 PM
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26. The evil influence of the elder Whale Blubber Twin
Ted Stevens (R-Satan). He has some kind of blood pact with Sen. "In-Your-Way" that they'll each cross party lines to support issues of importance to the non-contiguous states.

I am still waiting for evidence of Stevens going against Bush** co to help US, mind you. :grr:
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loro mi dicevano Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 03:35 PM
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12. NEVER give Coleman a break. NEVER, for ANY reason. He's a COMPLETE
bastard. He is absolutely a puppet of the administration, and nothing more. He might vote the "right" way once in a while, but the rightwingers love him, not to mention the only reason he got elected was because his opponent was killed in a fucking plane crash.

Oh, man. I guess I have a tendency to rant a little bit. Sorry 'bout that.
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:04 PM
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18. Looks like we're on the same track, loro mi dicevano!
:hi:

And never, NEVER apologize for putting Coleman in his place.
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stpalm Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 09:07 PM
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44. right on!
Coleman is such a slime
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:03 PM
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17. I still refuse to give Norm "Zipper" Coleman a break. Even a slight one.
He did this to look good to Minnesotans. Coleman's just about appearances.
After his "I am 100% better than Paul Wellstone" comment, well...let's just say I was a little bit angry.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:08 PM
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19. Coleman doesn't have a conscience
But Minnesotans, who cherish the outdoors, would have flayed him if he'd supported drilling in ANWR. He wouldn't be able to return to the state.

He is all about Norm and what Bush and Cheney want.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 06:08 PM
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28. Yeah. He's only thinking about re-election (making fraud look believable)
in 2006. He's a schmuck. No breaks for Norm. Norm is all about NORM. He doesn't give a rat's behind about representing Minnesotans.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 08:41 PM
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40. The much-vaunted "discipline" of the Republicans...
...may have been put to use. Once a party is sure it has the votes to pass a measure, perhaps individuals are allowed to vote against it for short-term gain (an odd analogy to the pollution credits offered under Clear Skies).

This of course would require a conspiracy even more tightly-controlled than is currently apparent.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:11 PM
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20. DU needs a weekly Hall of Shame to go with Top 10 Cons. Idiots
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:24 PM
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23. Yes we do
I heartily agree
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 08:41 PM
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41. Yesyesyesyes we do! n/t
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:14 PM
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21. didn't landrieu also vote for the bankruptcy bill?
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 05:47 PM
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25. What's going on in HI?
I can figure out Landrieu's vote since LA is oil/chemical company.
Hawaii is a mystery to me though - do they pay higher prices for gas that they think this will lower their bill or what?
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 06:08 PM
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29. Again--one vote does not a hall of shame (or fame) make
Edited on Wed Mar-16-05 06:09 PM by jpgray
This was an incredible disappointment to me, but you can't go kingmaking and pauperizing senators based on one vote. It is silly and irresponsible. This vote doesn't make Norm Coleman a bastion of liberal thought, nor does it make Akaka and Inouye as bad as the senators who vote for this sort of shit on a consistent basis. It's fucking terrible, but I just hate this "here's the vote du jour for black and white labeling of congresspeople" mentality on DU.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 06:11 PM
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30. Why Senators from Hawii? nt
nt
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 08:33 PM
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36. .
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 08:34 PM
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37. Chafee, Snow and Smith are old school republicans
Maybe we can influence them to come over from the dark side. Chafee has already hinted it.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 08:37 PM
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38. Yep
At least they had a soul where that's conserned. And yep. McCain can be goodbye. He won't be their nominee in 2008. Kinda sad really.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 11:34 PM
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45. Do these people flip coins to vote?
There doesn't seem to be any consistancy with Senate votes.

:shrug:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 09:40 AM
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46. .
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:14 PM
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47. .
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 12:29 PM
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48. The republicans would have voted the other way if their
votes had been needed.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 01:31 PM
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49. An Opinion From Maine...
...Snowe (especially) and Collins WILL be challenged in the primaries, but not strongly. Unfortunately, I also have a hard time seeing a D who can present a serious challenge (I PRAY that I'm wrong).

I hear a very slight buzz that Collins may challenge Gov. Baldacci next year. Ifso, it has to be because she wants to get the hell away from a senate where she doesn't count and does not have the backbone to stand up to the halliburton administration in any EFFECTIVE way.
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