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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 01:12 PM
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Nicholas Kristof has a new campaign to push

he badmouthed hysterical environmentalists and touted the article written by 2 so-called non-hysterical environmentalist.

don't have link to anything except c-span. on Wash. Journ. this a.m. the host read a newspaper article by Kristof saying yes, yes, to another article that came out written by 2 environmentalists who bad mouthed other environmentalists.

my point being the bushgang is pushing back about global warming and apparently prodded Kristof to say something. and I'm wondering if we will hear more like this from other bushgang mouthpieces soon.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 01:42 PM
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1. He has an oped in the NYTimes today. Guess he read Crichton's book
Edited on Sat Mar-12-05 01:44 PM by BrklynLiberal
He is accusing the environmentalists of being too hysterical. Guess he figures the end of life as we know it isn't anything to get so upset about.


'I Have a Nightmare'
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

When environmentalists are writing tracts like "The Death of Environmentalism," you know the movement is in deep trouble.

That essay by two young environmentalists has been whirling around the Internet since last fall, provoking a civil war among tree-huggers for its assertion that "modern environmentalism, with all of its unexamined assumptions, outdated concepts and exhausted strategies, must die so that something new can live." Sadly, the authors, Michael Shellenberger and Ted Nordhaus, are right.

The U.S. environmental movement is unable to win on even its very top priorities, even though it has the advantage of mostly being right. Oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge may be approved soon, and there's been no progress whatsoever in the U.S. on what may be the single most important issue to Earth in the long run: climate change.

The fundamental problem, as I see it, is that environmental groups are too often alarmists. They have an awful track record, so they've lost credibility with the public. Some do great work, but others can be the left's equivalents of the neocons: brimming with moral clarity and ideological zeal, but empty of nuance. (Industry has also hyped risks with wildly exaggerated warnings that environmental protections will entail a terrible economic cost.)

"The Death of Environmentalism" resonated with me. I was once an environmental groupie, and I still share the movement's broad aims, but I'm now skeptical of the movement's "I Have a Nightmare" speeches.

In the 1970's, the environmental movement was convinced that the Alaska oil pipeline would devastate the Central Arctic caribou herd. Since then, it has quintupled.

<snip>


So it's critical to have a credible, nuanced, highly respected environmental movement. And right now, I'm afraid we don't have one.


more....

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/12/opinion/12kristof.html?hp
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 01:50 PM
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2. thank you for looking it up and posting


hysterical is what MCPs used to call women to keep us out of society.

now they are trying the word on environmentalists.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 08:03 PM
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3. kick Nominating for greatest
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Carl Yasutomo Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 08:51 PM
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4. Is it just me, or has Kristof become a whore for the right?
I used to like Kristof, but in the last two years he seems to be more and more of an apologist for the right wing.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 09:01 PM
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5. I can't figure this guy out. Why is he published?
It's not like he writes all that well and his ideas are vapid. I think he's one of those WaPost concoctions, a real collection of light-weight contrarians with out much heft.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 09:13 PM
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6. come now, who better to represent gross mediocrity?
little nicky is a writer of superficial talents writing poorly about important things.

even alan colmes is better than kristof
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 09:23 PM
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7. Thanks for knocking me around. Occasionally I think outside the Matrix
and, as a result, I'm unable to read the common code of the CM (corporate media).

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