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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 12:59 PM Original message |
Elections Run By Same Guys Who Sell Toothpaste by Noam Chomsky |
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paineinthearse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. Noam gets an automatic nomiation |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
2. Sorry, Chomsky is an idiot IMHO. He's either not paying attention or |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. p.s. no wonder so many people are deluded. Moral of the story: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Kerry got $370,000 from drug companies. $779,000 from insurance |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 04:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Oops, #11 was supposed to go here :) |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Chomsky Didn't Say That! |
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Baconfoot (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Watch some more Chomsky tapes. He does make that point. (Sorry.) n/t |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 10:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
53. Yes, he does, like clockwork, every four years. (n/t) |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 04:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I didn't say he did. It's a paraphrase of what he DID say which is quoted |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. No it was spin, pure spin. |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. You're trying to tell me that Chomsky's point ISN'T that both candidates |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. that wasnt his point at all |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I'm sorry, that's not what he said. Read the speech. His point is that |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. You are spinning so hard I have a hard time believing its an accident. |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. That is his unstated conclusion, which is more or less what Nader says |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. No it is your inability or unwillingness to follow his arguments. |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. why are Chomsky's linguistic theories 'dopey'? |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Mainly because he universalizes syntax rules that are unique to English. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. I suspect folk who label his theories 'dopey'... |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I understand him perfectly. It's the same error in both cases: trying to |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Chomsky Is A Bush Enabler????!!!! Hardly |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. You are right about his linguistics, you are dead wrong about the politics |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I'm not equating the two. I'm saying he's wrong about both, and that |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Yes you are equating the two, and you are wrong. |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 07:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
50. It's like a chronic tailgaiter who rear-ends two different vehicles. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Most people who don't understand will claim they do... |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Okay, he's not an idiot. Let me put it this way: his political ideas are |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. You have demonstrated a bad understanding of his political ideas |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:47 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Oh please. His politics are simplistic and outdated. That's the problem! |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Then why do you keep getting his ideas wrong? |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Um, I think we disagree on that point :) |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. No, you are demonstrably wrong. |
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paineinthearse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 10:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
54. Chomsky is an idiot IMHO |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 01:23 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Obviously he's not an idiot. My point is that he of all people |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. Our "two-party" system is a masquerade of democracy. |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
11. Possibly, but it doesn't change what Kerry said in the debates, and on |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I think he's paying attention to what they're doing as well. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. I WILL FIGHT FOR YOU...by conceding quickly |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Kerry does NOT support the occupation. He's been arguing for a withdrawal |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Big News! |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. You didn't know that? Stop listening to Chomsky and turn on the news! |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. He has been arguing for an EVENTUAL withdrrawal. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. So he supported the invasion and then opposed the occupation? |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. He never supported the invasion!! And he didn't vote for it! |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 06:08 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Huh? |
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Itsthetruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. No |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. In fact, he has been crystal clear, IF YOU LISTEN TO KERRY. If you listen |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 06:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Wrong, |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 07:06 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. How was Iraq ever a threat to the US? |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 05:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. No, you are also spinning his words. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 06:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. The truth is he did support the invasion... |
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Stop_the_War (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
45. Go Noam!!!!! Kick and Nominated! |
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porkrind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 09:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Noam Chomsky is a national treasure. |
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adwon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-12-05 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
48. I almost never agree with Chomsky |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-13-05 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
56. Bless Chomsky. Plain truth |
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