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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:13 PM
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Would you vote for these guys if one won the Dem nom. for president?
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 08:14 PM by Selatius
Lincoln (D) Yes.
Pryor (D) Yes.
Salazar (D) Yes.
Biden (D) Yes.
Carper (D) Yes.
Nelson (D) Yes.
Inouye (D) Yes.
Bayh (D) Yes.
Landrieu (D) Yes.
Stabenow (D) Yes.
Baucus (D) Yes.
Nelson (D) Yes.
Reid (D) Yes.
Bingaman (D) Yes.
Conrad (D) Yes.
Johnson (D) Yes.
Byrd (D) Yes.
Kohl (D) Yes.

These are the Democrats who voted for the bankruptcy bill that passed today.

If any one of these guys won the Democratic nomination for president, would you vote for the person on November 2nd? I want to see how you people would react to one of these guys (Bayh or Biden, for example) winning the party nomination knowing how the guy voted today. I want to know.

Would you vote for him on election day???
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:14 PM
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1. probably
My ethics are based on consequences, not grudges. As long as voting dem is the action most likely to make peoples lives better, I will vote dem regardless of how bad they are.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:27 PM
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17. Too many fake Dems are confusing the voters, to Zell with them
Especially with RepuKKKe fakes like Colon Pile, the Governator, Bloomberg, Coleman, Spector, etc, confusing them from other directions. Then there's the corporate media.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:15 PM
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2. Nope
Voting in favor of the Assault on the Middle Class Bill is an automatic disqualifier for the office of president.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:37 PM
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22. And the alternative would be.....?????
:shrug:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 07:00 AM
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33. When faced with the choice of a Republican who sells out the middle class
and a Democrat who sells out the middle class, there's always third party choices.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:16 PM
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3. Nope
Sorry -- this bill is entirely anti-middle class, pro-business. Voting yes is not being a good Democrat, IMHO. These people are DINOs and don't deserve the nomination or my vote.
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:20 PM
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8. Yes, expell them all! We need a 32 Member Dem Senate Caucus
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:20 PM
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9. Delete, duplicate
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 08:21 PM by ISUGRADIA
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:20 PM
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10. Yes, expell them all! We need a 32 Member Dem Senate Caucus
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:17 PM
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4. Yes, even if two of them share the ticket
I vote for the Democratic nominee
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:18 PM
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5. No damn way!!!
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:19 PM
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6. Yes, one vote does not a career make
though I'd probably be collecting winnings from vegas having taken the 50,000-1 odds and placed a wager on the chance that a 91 year old man like Byrd could get the 2008 nomination.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:19 PM
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7. I don't see Lieberman's name on there
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:20 PM
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11. He voted no on the bill
But I wouldn;t vote for him, either.
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Idioteque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:06 PM
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30. This list doesn't really bother me.
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 09:07 PM by Idioteque
The cloture vote is what really pisses me off. Every single Dem could have voted no and it still would have passed. The Democrats that voted to end debate and let this trash get an up or down vote are on my shit list.

Lieberman voted YES on cloture. >_<
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:21 PM
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12. Yes. Even with Lieberman on the ticket I would vote for the Dem
ticket. You always have to look at the persons you are voting against as well....
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fresnobill314 Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:23 PM
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13. Money is bi-partisan....
...when it comes to buying votes.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:24 PM
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14. Yes
because I would not vote for a Republican and it is vital that a Democrat wins in 2008 or the US will turn into a northern version of Mexico.
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Yosie Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:25 PM
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15. There is one good point about the Bankruptcy Bill
now that they have killed class actions -- it means lawyers have to sue creditor banks the old fashion way -- one client at a time, and one count on each possibly illegal or usurious charge. More expensive for the banks this way --------

I have laid it out here--->

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=106&topic_id=15144&mesg_id=15153

Sue the illegitimati :bounce:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:27 PM
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16. What if one of them had been running against Bush?
Would you sit out and not fight? Would you vote for Bush out of protest? I'm just curious.

Me? I would have voted for my dog if he were the one running against Bush last election.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:27 PM
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18. Heck no, I want to get another democrat to oppose Herb Kohl in 2006
Edited on Thu Mar-10-05 08:27 PM by ralps
in Wisconsin. The only person or bill he has opposed in this session is Albertp Gonzales. He voted for Rice, Chertoff, and for The Class Action (Extreme Un)Fairness Act of 2005 :nuke: :puke: :mad:
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:29 PM
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19. Don't forget Hillary. She didn't have the guts to vote after having
voted to limit the debate.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:37 PM
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23. She had a pretty good excuse for not being there. n/t
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:45 PM
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26. And what was her excuse for the vote to limit debate?
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:49 PM
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28. Didn't have one. n/t
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WillowTree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:07 PM
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31. She didn't HAVE one?
Try telling that to her husband, who had major surgery today, OK?
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 05:50 PM
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35. Read the posts, I said she had a "pretty good excuse" for not
voting on the day of her husband's surgery, I was then asked about her excuse her previous vote and said he didn't have an excuse for that.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:39 PM
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25. I'm willing to give her a pass.
She was with Bill in the hospital.
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NNguyenMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:31 PM
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20. NO NOT DANIEL INOUYE!!!! DANIEL SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!!
he voted against the war resolution too! someone has to tell him to put down the cool aid.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 04:29 AM
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37. That one shocked the bejeezus out of me n/t
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:33 PM
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21. Yes, I would.
The very worst of them are better than the best the Republicans have in the bull pen.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:38 PM
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24. Not in the primary. In a general election,
I'd vote for Mickey Mouse over a Republican for president.
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hansolsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 08:46 PM
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27. No -- let's nominate someone who is not from the Senate. Senators
have too much baggage. Let's run with a govenor or non politician.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:03 PM
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29. Good corporate Dems all of them
:puke:

So to answer your question, no. In fact the only way to rid of this is to start voting for candidates who take NO corporate donations. The only Democratic presidential candidate in the last election to do that was Kucinich. The only one outside of the Democratic party was Cobb, and the Greens take no corporate cash period.

To vote otherwise is to continue to let corporations set our political and societal agenda, no matter who is in office, money interests will trump what is good and right for the people almost every time. We need to face the truth that the interests of K street and Wall Street and every single big money interest is put before the interests of voters.

Now the question is, are the people ready to get behind a candidate who isn't a pawn of Corporate America? It is high time we did, otherwise we are going to continue to get what Corporate America paid for.

In order to break this stranglehold of corporate lucre, we must be able to lay out for a candidate the amount of cash needed for a campaign. Last election, if all was said and told, the presidential run was between 200 and 300 million. So, we would have to get out aprox. 30 million people to commit to ten dollars apiece. I think we could do that. Dean did show us the viability of internet cash raising, let's take it to the next level.

The other thing we could do, difficult as it would be in these times of 'Pug controlled states, is to work on getting each and every single state to have publicly financed election campaigns. Four states already have it to one degree or another, and others are working on it. It will be one more way for Americans to take back their country from the interests of big money.

You don't like the effects that corrosive corporate cash has on our government? Well let us start working to take corporate cash out of the equation. Make it known that you will only support candidates who fore-go corporate support, give as generously as you can to those candidates, and work like hell for publicly financed elections. Otherwise we will continue to our so called representatives cave in to their corporate masters time after time after time ad nauseum

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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 09:07 PM
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32. Yup
Straight ticket from the White House down to Constable!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 07:32 AM
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34. HELL FUCKING NO! They need to pack it up! n/t
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amjucsc Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 06:01 PM
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36. Yes
So long as they're left of Lyndon Larouche (and if it was against a sufficiently vile Republican, then I'd at least think about it.)
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 04:51 AM
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38. Yes
but I'd have to hold my nose or have some alcohol to do it.

This is a tough one to excuse...This is quite possibly worse than voting for the Bush tax cuts...

One of my senators is on that list. She's still better than the puke she replaced, but that' not sayin much. A pile of dog shit would make a better senator than the one she replaced.

that said, she'll get my vote, but not a dime or a second's worth of campaigning.





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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 06:19 AM
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39. Considering I voted for a guy who supported Jr's war
I guess I could vote for one of these.

Julie
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