We're pulling for you, President Clinton.

[cornermouse]

Get well quickly. Please.

[Catch22Dem]

1. Link

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050308/ap_on_re_us/bill_clinton_health

[SharonRB]

3. He needs to have some scar tissue removed

which is causing him some problems. Supposed to be in the hospital 3-10 days, but should be pretty routine.

[elehhhhna]

8. He needs his hip removed from GHWB.

[SharonRB]

12. So right you are

Watching them together on the news tonight, I thought they were getting way too chummy. They're playing golf together tomorrow. On the other hand, it probably kills shrub that his dad is spending so much time with the enemy.

[elehhhhna]

15. They're pals now that Hil's switched parties, I guess.

[applegrove]

17. I think even Bush Sr. said they were not pals. I have heard Clinton

really feels that humanitarian causes are where he should be in the rest of his career. I do not doubt that he had no choice but to go with robotdaddy or not participate at all in the tsunami relief.

As to Bill & Hillary switching parties... I am a Liberal and I am tired of people on the far utopia left telling me that I cannot like, respect, & want to regulate markets. Markets are what made the middle class after all. Go to places where there is hardly a market and you will find subsistence poverty & starvation. If you are not growing food on your front lawn to feed and cloth your loved ones then you like markets too.

The problem is that they need to be regulated to ensure transparency. Sure Bill encouraged openness of trade but that is also a Liberal thing. In the past it was conservatives & elites who were against open markets because their people could then get cheaper goods.

We as humans have no choice but to be open the the world economy. The money is always where the middle class is emerging (think of all the spending your and my family have done in north America over three generations as we went from poor to middle class or upper middle class). Well we are mature as markets go and sure some growth will continue but not nearly like what they will see in Brazil, India, China, Russia. In 20 years or 30 they will have a combined economy 10 times bigger than all the western nations do today. We either ignore and do not participate in that incredible growth and shrivel up and die. Or we participate.

The question is how do we participate. And if we do not study the future and what it will all mean how can we possibly keep elites from picking and choosing the regulation they want and don't want? We have to be letting go of Utopian ideals like socialism. There are times when socialism works very well (like health care) in a market and should be used. For other things...like jobs... it does a crummy job.

I just get tired of it being assumed that the majority of Liberals, progressives, Democrats are against open markets & healthy markets. Because there may be 40,000 people in the USA making everything they eat and wear... and that is all. I would hazard to guess that the Amish go in for dental medicine and heart surgery.

Loving open markets is a liberal thing. Don't let the neocons 're brand themselves' and swallow it all. They do not own democracy and they do not own freedom and they do not own markets. But they will if you let them.

Best of luck Bill! & Hillary thank you (both) for not retiring but staying to revitalize and bulk up the party.

[solinvictus]

19. Markets..

I agree, planned economies have proven to be failures, but there has to be greater protections for American workers' living standards or we'll return to the 1890's era of wage slaves.

[applegrove]

20. Part of that will be offset by the even more slave wages that people

will be paid in China. Your wages go down but so do all your costs. And people on a farm trying to live that way will be thrilled for a slave wage that guarantees them only 10 hours a day of work (or whatever it is in China) instead of 15 hour days.

The trick is to not let the elites call all the shots. The big lie they tell is that a socialist health care system will not work. In fact universal health care works better than the market (just a thinggy with that particular market). So the elites now try and implement neocon economic policies in all the markets in the world that discourage universal health care. USA is a minority and I think they will loose in the end. You see that if everyone in the world agrees to obvious truths about socialized medicines then we all implement it and everybody wins.

Same thing with undoing nuclear arms race.

Richard Perle is right. Human beings do set norms. Which human beings do you want setting the norms in the next hundred years in the world. My guess is that the feeling human beings will win out. Child labour is a norm. As is corporate citizenship. What they teach in MBA school is a norm. As are human rights, religious freedom, etc. etc.

[cornermouse]

4. Thank you.

:)

[SharonRB]

2. I certainly second that!

It's supposed to be pretty routine surgery, but my prayers are with him until we know he's okay.

[Spinzonner]

5. I think "Routine Heart Surgery" is an oxymoron

OTOH ...

YOUR Heart Surgery might be routine.

MY Heart Surgery is never routine.

[bush_is_wacko]

14. I've watched people go through it. It is NEVER routine, you are

absolutely correct! Here's hoping he weathers it fine!

[atommom]

6. Get well fast! We need all the Dems we can get in this country!

[juajen]

7. Love and deep "get well" thoughts!!!!

N/T

[Cuban_Liberal]

9. God bless, Bubba!

Get well soon, Mr. President!

:loveya:

[jdj]

10. well, this will never happen to Bush.

got to have a heart to have heart trouble.

[politicasista]

11. Get well soon Bill

Smirky has destroyed everything you created. :grr:

[bigtree]

13. what a facinating and inspiring man

good luck with the operation Mr. President :hi:

[SharonRB]

16. He will always be "my president."

[solinvictus]

18. Get well, Mr. President...

and hopefully we can repeal that damn amendment keeping you out of office.

[ComerPerro]

21. We need to keep that amendment

Otherwise, Bush will be president for life.