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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:48 PM
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Interesting stats on CNN/MSNBC/FOX
The wall street jounal reported the following:

http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB111015476641671750,00.html?mod=yahoo_hs&ru=yahoo
...

This year, through Feb. 27, MSNBC's average daily audience has been 209,000 viewers, according to VNU NV's Nielsen Media Research. Fox News has averaged a daily audience of 872,000 while CNN has averaged 453,000 viewers and CNN Headline News has averaged 226,000.

...

People don't watch these idiots, they have less than a million viewers, even faux which is number only 872,000 daily viewers

What does this say:

1. limbaugh has about 12 million viewers
2. Howard Stern has about 12 - 15 million viewers

I don't know the stats for air america, but it appears to me that cable news is a dismal failure, and a money losing proposition

People don't care, they are more interested in fear factor, survivor, and other entertainment shows

To me it shows that the only thing that gives CNN, MSNBC, and FAUX any credibility is the very small subset of people that watch it



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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:51 PM
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1. It's the big money propping them up that keeps it going
These are fringe networks, you're absolutely correct.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:54 PM
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2. it was a revelation to me
these big mouths are "full of sound and fury signifying nothing"
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 11:13 PM
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9. Interesting that more Fox Viewers have time off during the day.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 12:59 AM
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13. It makes me feel good that millions watch the Daily Show every night!
I love Jon Stewart!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 07:34 PM
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25. I wonder how they will try & destroy that. Jon Stewart even had
a logo over the White House that said "Anti-Social" last week.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:55 PM
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3. Wouldn't you like 200,000 people a day to see Democratic ideas
Edited on Sun Mar-06-05 10:55 PM by Eric J in MN
expressed on tv?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 11:02 PM
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5. Keith Olbermann does a good job of pointing out
bush's shortcomings, Lettermann, and Bill Maher get their shots in too. John Stewart kicks bush's ass every night.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 11:04 PM
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6. Not if it's the same 200k every day and it costs millions of dollars.
That wouldn't be very good value.
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NomoBreaks Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 03:04 AM
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19. and it is.......n/m
n/m
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:58 PM
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4. Thanks for putting it all in
perspective.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 11:04 PM
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7. great, that means it's us watching.
at least when something is going on.

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 11:08 PM
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8. LOL
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 11:21 PM
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10. FALSE! On any given day, more people typically tune to CNN than to Fox .
Edited on Sun Mar-06-05 11:24 PM by LynnTheDem
They're using the "shares" rating; the average number of viewers watching a station or a show in a typical minute, based on Nielsen Media Research's monitoring of thousands of households.

The average is arrived at by counting viewers every minute. Heavy viewers--those who tune in to a station and linger there--have a greater impact, as they can be counted multiple times as they watch throughout the day.

Military bases, for example, leave Faux Moos on 24/7.

But there is another important number collected by Nielsen (though only made available to the firm's clients) that tells another story. This is the "cume," the cumulative total number of viewers who watch a channel for at least six minutes during a given day. Unlike the average ratings number the media usually report, this number gives the same weight to the light viewer, who tunes in for a brief time, as it does to the heavy viewer.

CNN regularly claims a cume about 20 percent higher than Fox 's (Deseret Morning News , 1/12/04). For instance, in April 2003, during the height of the fighting in Iraq, CNN 's cume was significantly higher than Fox 's: 105 million viewers tuned into CNN compared to 86 million for Fox (Cablefax , 4/30/03). But in the same period, the ratings reported by most media outlets had Fox in the lead, with an average of 3.5 million viewers to CNN 's 2.2 million.

The O'Reilly Factor is the best-rated show on Fox, with about 2 million viewers a night. CBS Evening News, the least-watched broadcast network evening news show, routinely gets four or five times as big an audience, and that's seen as a ratings disaster. Fox 's flagship news show, Special Report with Brit Hume, gets a million viewers on a good night-a few thousand more than the local newscast of New York City's WNBC.

If it's true that news can be put into two categories--Fox and everything else--then when Special Report airs, everything else beats Fox by at least 30 to one.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2005

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queeg Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 11:55 PM
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11. I wanna see Hannity on Survivor
Stupid f**k couldnt even make fire I bet
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 12:35 AM
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12. i want to see him on fear factor
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 01:05 AM
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14.  you mean as one of those disgusting things people
have to sit in a vat of, or eat?

I'm sure the fear factorites will puke like they've never puked before.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 02:24 AM
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16. yup
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 01:15 AM
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15. Randi said her audience is 6 million ...so far
on the show when she interview Govenor Dean .

It just replayed this last week :think:

I also hear the January numbers are better than
December .
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 02:26 AM
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17. maybe radio is where we will take back the country
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 02:36 AM
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18. Nice!
I get all my news from the internet (here, blogs I trust, Yahoo) and listen to Air America and other democratic stations that are posted here on Du on the main forum page. Only political shows I watch on tv are sometimes Scarborough to see what he talks about, Jon Stewart and Bill Maher. Does anybody have ratings for Stewart and Maher?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 03:08 AM
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20. they are propped up by the blackops domestic psyops budget
they are propaganda
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 03:54 AM
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21. These numbers are Pathetic & that's Excellent !
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 05:27 AM
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22. If it was news, people would watch it
Fox is opinion. CNN and MSNBC are propoganda enablers. I used to watch headline news until they started remaking that.

I remember when CNN had real breaking news constantly. If they tried that they might actually get some viewers back.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 05:34 AM
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23. I don't believe the numbers.
Off by at least a factor of ten.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 08:50 AM
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24. came from the wall street journal
please give me your numbers and sources
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 07:40 PM
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26. What's "The Daily Show"s number of viewers? When he blasted
CNN's Crossfire some one compared Crossfire's viewers (by the way CNN #1 show) with the viewing numbers of Stewart's. The Daily Show kicked their ass. Stewart's viewing numbers were huge compared to Crossfires.
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