Who saw the Peacenik/Pro-War "Wife Swap" last night?

[TOOLZ]

I work in reality TV, whatever that's worth, and this was the funniest thing I've ever seen. A strict woman from KY who was in the Air Force for five years and marshalls her kids to clean their rooms like bunks, and stash away all of their toy guns and bombers out of sight, while her vet husband works 14 hour days at a steel factory, had to swap with a woman in "Wellstone" Minnesota, whose front yard was littered with anti-Bush signs, and had the most precocious, sharp, anti-authority teenager, Dan, who had clearly been waiting for something to flex his radicl outrage at. This woman came from a kitchen full of "W" mugs to this kid who could intellectually beat her into a carpet stain. She tried to tell him to drop and giver twenty!

On the flipside, the Activist woman who stayed with the military family tried to organize a peace vigil with the Repub neighbors. And there it was, from their own mouths: 'I think it's unpatriotic to question the president...9/11 really scared me...good Christians don't go against the government...we have the greatest country on earth."

How do we get these people out of the Matrix?

I might have to post some of this on my site, it's too good.

[BlueEyedSon]

1. "Here... drink some of this yummy Kool-ade. Don't worry, its not a pod..."

Resistance is futile, you WILL be assimilated.

[TOOLZ]

3. The Repub mom cried

when Dan the teen told her there was no God and Jesus was a carpenter who talked a lot. Whenever she went on about the US Flag (which she hung instead of their gay pride flag) and how many vets had died for it, Dan shot back about the 30 million indians that died by the US settling. They boys laughed and refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance. Dan rebelled against her homemaking by insisting on cleaning his own dishes.

[BlueEyedSon]

11. These people are so far gone, with the toxic mix of false patriotism

and psychopathic god-worship. I only hope the hard-core ones are a minority.

But what can an allegedly compassionate Jesus-follower say about the Native American slaughter (or any other of the US atrocities)? It's too much for them, they just have to block it out.

They need deprogramming, as surely as the members of any other religious cult.

[IrateCitizen]

60. Cognitive dissonance is the American way, after all!

It's what allows us to ignore the genocide of Native Americans, the history of slavery, Jim Crow, lynchings, immigrant-bashing to the point of hate crimes, military adventurism and conquest, etc. If most people actually took the time to realistically consider these realities against the idea that "America is the greatest country in the history of the world and can do no wrong," their heads would explode.

It's just so much easier to STOP THINKING, ignore the reality, and hold on tightly to your myths.

[Bouncy Ball]

42. Jesus was a carpenter who talked a lot?

Is it horrible that I belly laughed at that sentence?

[Is It Fascism Yet]

74. me too! no shame, no fear! n/t

[murray hill farm]

4. hahahaha

good one....so funny!! "its not a pod" hehehehehehe!!

[rkc3]

2. 'I think it's unpatriotic to question the president....

Unless his name is Bill - oh how I hate these stupid mutherfockers.

In most revolutions they kill the educated - I'm really hoping for a new revolution where the educated get their turn with the nightstick. That's probably not very open-minded or enlightened, but I'm so tired of this lunacy.

[tom_paine]

5. "How do we get these people out of the Matrix?"

We don't. It is quite clear, from an historical perspective, that we have dismantled too much of Free America rto ever get it back. Further, as in S. Africa in 1948, the propaganda, media manipulation and Hitler-style political maneuverings have so atrophied and parasitized our System of Checks and balances that really the Imperial Subjects of Amerika have only two options for our long-term future.

1) Civil War
2) Totalitarian Submission

Any other option, inculding the Free World coming to liberate us like we did in WWII, is a low order of probablility IMHO.

(and I am not sure I'd want them to, anyway)

[redqueen]

12. Thanks, Eeyore.

Honestly...

There are other ways these people can be roused from their slumber. One way is serious discomfort, which they'll likely be experiencing very shortly if the economy doesn't do a 180 soon.

[Stand and Fight]

19. A draft...

A draft will rouse them from their idiotic blissful slumber. That is why this anti-war movement has never taken off in regards to this war, but if you institute a draft that affects everyone, believe you me, these bastards will take to the streets. I have noticed in my study of history and society that people are only spurred forward through tragedy and what personally affects them. Let's face it folks -- while seemingly most Amerikans are able to foolishly support the self-proclaimed "war-time president," they will NOT do so when little Jack and little Jill are called to serve their country along with the "trailer trash", the "wetbacks", the "niggers," and the rest of the "have-nots" things will change. And I say this as a Black American and a veteran. Only then will the outrage come. Only then will the majority of people in this country wake up. Only then will they realize that slipping further into a totalitarian police-state will utterly destroy the precedent that has come to be known as "the great experiment." Our republic will go the way of Rome if we are not mindful of the inequities and hypocrisies that are ever-present in our every waking moment. Unfortunately, we -- the people who frequent this site -- are a minority that has been jolted into the realization that "America the Beautiful" has become "American the Pitiful." The strongest nation in the world has become bogged down in an illegal and unjust war because the AmeriCan people have fallen asleep at the wheel. My friends, do not fail to recall that the governors only rule with the consent of the governed. The Social Contract has been breached and it is up to us to forge a more revolutionary document in order to remind our elected officials -- for they are not leaders -- in Washington, D.C. that they have a responsibility, a moral obligation if you will, to protect the rights of those they represent. They do not give us those rights and they have forgotten that bit of common sense in the last few years with the advent of the nefarious Patriot Acts. None of the many crimes of this administration of woken them up, and it will take a tragedy to make it happen. Reminds me of a post I read in which the person ranted against Bush being worst than Hitler because he had personally affected that person's life. This sort of attitude is very telling in light of the fact that 6 million people died under the regime of Hitler, but Bush is worse because he's actually affected their "life." (Never mind the people who died in the hell of Auschwitz and the like -- it's all about ME! Oh the tragedy...) Why is it telling? It supports my position that only when Amerikans are directly and tragically affected by the evils of Bush will they finally develop a -- lo' and behold! -- conscience in regards to the many crimes and atrocities that are taking place in the name of our Republic. Only when they run the risk of loosing something important to them -- like their freedom to not fight in a war they never really believed in -- will they wake up from their stupor and break free of the cult of the concentration camp of the mind. Until then, my fellow conscience-prone DUers, we will simply have to wait ever so patiently for the hammer to fall... So, bring on the draft, because we want our AmeriCa back.

End of Rant... for now.

[TOOLZ]

21. well said! n/t

[FromTheLeft]

25. I agree wholeheartedly...n/t

[Sentath]

40. Good post

And it is a good post. But I had to read it like this...

A draft will rouse them from their idiotic blissful slumber. That is why this anti-war movement has never taken off in regards to this war, but if you institute a draft that affects everyone, believe you me, these bastards will take to the streets.

I have noticed in my study of history and society that people are only spurred forward through tragedy and what personally affects them. Let's face it folks -- while seemingly most Amerikans are able to foolishly support the self-proclaimed "war-time president," they will NOT do so when little Jack and little Jill are called to serve their country along with the "trailer trash", the "wetbacks", the "niggers," and the rest of the "have-nots" things will change. And I say this as a Black American and a veteran. Only then will the outrage come. Only then will the majority of people in this country wake up. Only then will they realize that slipping further into a totalitarian police-state will utterly destroy the precedent that has come to be known as "the great experiment."

Our republic will go the way of Rome if we are not mindful of the inequities and hypocrisies that are ever-present in our every waking moment. Unfortunately, we -- the people who frequent this site -- are a minority that has been jolted into the realization that "America the Beautiful" has become "American the Pitiful." The strongest nation in the world has become bogged down in an illegal and unjust war because the AmeriCan people have fallen asleep at the wheel.

My friends, do not fail to recall that the governors only rule with the consent of the governed. The Social Contract has been breached and it is up to us to forge a more revolutionary document in order to remind our elected officials -- for they are not leaders -- in Washington, D.C. that they have a responsibility, a moral obligation if you will, to protect the rights of those they represent. They do not give us those rights and they have forgotten that bit of common sense in the last few years with the advent of the nefarious Patriot Acts. None of the many crimes of this administration have woken them up, and it will take a tragedy to make it happen.

Reminds me of a post I read in which the person ranted against Bush being worse than Hitler because he had personally affected that person's life. This sort of attitude is very telling in light of the fact that 6 million people died under the regime of Hitler, but Bush is worse because he's actually affected their "life." (Never mind the people who died in the hell of Auschwitz and the like -- it's all about ME! Oh the tragedy...)

Why is it telling? It supports my position that only when Amerikans are directly and tragically affected by the evils of Bush will they finally develop a -- lo' and behold! -- conscience in regards to the many crimes and atrocities that are taking place in the name of our Republic. Only when they run the risk of loosing something important to them -- like their freedom to not fight in a war they never really believed in -- will they wake up from their stupor and break free of the cult of the concentration camp of the mind.

Until then, my fellow conscience-prone DUers, we will simply have to wait ever so patiently for the hammer to fall... So, bring on the draft, because we want our AmeriCa back.

End of Rant... for now.

[Stand and Fight]

59. Thanks...

I'm at work. Thanks for breaking that down for me -- maybe I'll hire you as an editor. (Part of my job description is writer/editor... LOL... I'm so ashamed!) I tend not to proofread as much as I should - you know, Big Brother and all... ;)

[movie_girl99]

46. holy shit

this is one of the best posts that i have read. Thanks so much!

[Tsiyu]

47. I think you are correct, Stand and Fight.

Thank you for your perspective. :)

[BrklynLiberal]

48. That's the truth!!!

Fantastic post!!!

[Hamlette]

53. Great post "stand and fight" and that is why I favor a draft

make some people who don't want to go to war go and you will not only have resistance, you will have witnesses. That's what happened in Vietnam. Draftees came home and said "WTF?"

[info being]

68. Exactly. Conservatives always become Liberals...

as soon as the issue hits home. When a Conservative loses health insurance, for example, THEN they'll admit that universal healthcare is not such a bad idea.

[seventythree]

71. absolutely agree about the draft

[earth mom]

72. Beautifully Said! eom

[Is It Fascism Yet]

75. except, as always, the children of the aristocracy will not be called

or will have handy a means of evasion. Ala Shrub pretending sometimes to be a pilot guarding the dangerous skys of Texas during Viet Nam. You know the rich don't go! Draft is just another way of saying, "you poor kids don't even have the illusion of a choice anymore" thats all. The Drunken Shrub twins will not be going, nor the children of the Congress and Senate, nor the children of the ruling "owner class". Neither will my kids, even if I have to build an attic to hide them in.

[Chomskyite]

87. I hope you're wrong

. . . but I admit to being unable to marshall an argument against this view right now. And I have had an extensive education in history, too.

[tom_paine]

23. Shooting the messenger because you don't like the message?

First off, IN SPITE of my feelings, I have written more letters, worked and donated harder as well as more often, for Democratic Campiagns in 2002 and 2004, than probably 90% of the Internet Jockeys here at DU (apologies if you're in the 10%).

2-3 days every goddamned week for MONTHS in 2004, after working full-time, I trudged out to campaign meetings, stuffed envelopes, called, canvassed, etc. etc. etc.

I gave roughly 2% of my last year's GROSS income to diverse groups of candidates Congressional and Presidential.

I say this because, whatever my views, I have my creds and I have done more than my share to battle to Coming Darkness.

I do this because I might be wrong and I don't want to have "given up", even if I feel this is 99% likely.

Because the other 1% might be true.

But I feel as I feel, I see what I see, and I WILL say it whenever I damned well please.

And yet, in spite of all that, in 2006 I'll be back out there again "bringing a knife to a gunfight" as I like to call it, where all my hundreds of hours of work can be nullified by one Bushevik and his Diebold-certified hacker programs.

And I will keep my feelings to myself, so I don't demoralize others, as I did in 2004.

But I WILL speak my mind. If you don't like it, put me on 'ignore'.

But don't come crying to me when you failed to prepare for the Totalitarian Inevitability (at least during the "rise" of Totalitarianism, where we are living now) of the Future that awaits us.

[redqueen]

27. I don't mind you speaking your mind...

but please don't have a fit when I speak mine.

You can do all that and more, but as long as people are relatively comfortable, most just won't care. I've come to realize that.

And please don't worry, I won't come crying to you about anything. :)

[redqueen]

29. And I apologize if my snarky tone above offended you.

I appreciate your efforts and dedication. Perhaps it's time for you to take a small hiatus, and get some perspective?

[iconoclastNYC]

15. Yeah I guess we should all give up.

Your sentiment is counterproductive and unamerican.

Positive thinking is powerful, negativity is self defeating.

I havn't been around here for very long but i get the sense that DU is full of fighters, and thats why i'm sticking around.

We are in a civil war, but its a cold civil war. The internet is the left's nuclear weapon. I would not be an activist it i was only watching the mainstream media. It is the Internet that brought me onboard.

I have faith in my county, the left, and humanity in general.

[redqueen]

28. Dunno how long you've been here, but...

WELCOME TO DU! :hi:

[Tsiyu]

50. Now why would you think we are full of fighters?

(sarcasm off)

Those idiotic Repukes who believe e are wimps have a rude awakening coming.


This is so funny. My w key only works some of the time. kinda like that other w.....

[gumby]

34. 3) Vodka

I guess that could be a subset of Totalitarian Submission. Wasn't that the Soviet Union's (partial) reaction?

I'm not joking and am really pessimistic about the future of this country (and the world). There is clearly no political solution to change the situation that we find ourselves in. Just like the Geneva Conventions, voting seems to be a "quaint" relic.

As for the rest of the Free World, my guess is that they are going to use a financial weapon against us.

[tom_paine]

36. Heh heh. May I propose an alternate solution?

3a) Bourbon

:evilgrin:

[ClayZ]

61. Having written, signed petitions, marched, screamed.......

hmmmmmm!

[jpak]

62. May I propose "Victory Gin"

?????

[hfojvt]

69. what was that "revolutionary beer" that Vonnegut wrote about?

and as he concluded "alcohol is actually a depressant, but the working class will never stop wishing otherwise"

[info being]

67. The other option is that this is unsustainable

The only way it CAN end is badly. Like the most corrupt Communist regime...the timer is ticking on American Capitalism as we know it. It is unsustainable, which, by definition, means that it will end.

[readmoreoften]

78. Civil War will come eventually. n/t

[gollygee]

6. There is nothing more patriotic in the world than to question authority

People have completely forgotten what the word Patriotism means. If the founding fathers never questioned authority, we'd still be a colony. Or a commonwealth anyway.

[Mad_Dem_X]

55. Exactly - dissent is patriotic and American

Thomas Jefferson is surely spinning in his grave...

[ClayZ]

65. Boston Tea Parties everywhere!

[goodhue]

7. see here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3208642

[TOOLZ]

13. Thanks!

I knew I couldn't be the first to post on this. If you know Mina, tell her great job! Both as outreach, gently getting the Bush-bots to discuss their warped view, and especially as surrogate mother, making the kids aware of the war toys, having them all play dress up and create, and inducing the father to stay home more. That was real change, hard to get on wacky TV premises.

I couldn't imagine living in a house with that much W crap, though.

[EVDebs]

8. What goes around....comes around. In a short time I can see hubby

job being scaled back or outsourced, someone in the family needing medical assistance beyond the financial ability of the company plan to pay for ... well, you get my point.

Her comments on 'what was important' at the end showed she HAD done some thinking, so all was not lost.

However, the kid WAS just the kind of target the rightwingnuts salivate over.

This country needs to review the service record of USMC Gen. Smedley D. Butler more when the jingoistic drums begin to beat.

[aden_nak]

9. "unpatriotic to question the president" - give them a brain lock

Whenever I hear this steaming pike of horse shit, I like to throw Teddy Roosevelt in their face. Teddy, don't forget, was a "Rough Rider", a Republican, and is primarily famous, quotation-wise, for suggesting that America "Carry a big stick." A quote he is not quite as well known for, though, is:

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." - Theodore Roosevelt, The Kansas City Star, May 7, 1918

So, the point is that Theodore Roosevelt was an American President (and a Republican one, at that). So you shouldn't question him, right? But, he says that you SHOULD question the President. . . can't you just smell their tiny little brains fizzling out thinking about it?

[Worst Username Ever]

20. I love that quote. I use it in my sig.

[Lorien]

84. Eight years of Clinton (our last honestly elected President)

I'm sure those Bushbots were cheerleaders for the Presidency then! :eyes:

[tishaLA]

10. Were the anti-war people Quakers?

That's what I think I'd read.

[goodhue]

14. Mina's parents are Quakers

eom

[BillySherm]

86. I'm a quaker

but I'm not anti-war. Not all quakers are pacifist peaceniks. In fact, there is no established religious dogma that binds quakers. I'm no big fan of reality TV (an oxymoron if there ever was one), but I can't believe a show called "wife swap" is worth watching. Especially if an episode involves a mother trying to force her beliefs upon someone else's child and vice-versa. Political affiliations aside, calling another person's faith into question is pretty low. If all shows are as such, I'm glad I don't watch it. Questioning authority may be noble, but completely disrespecting it is not.

[newyawker99]

88. Hi BillySherm!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[leftofthedial]

16. euthanasia

[zbdent]

17. I've said it before, the producers aren't going to be happy until

they have a murder on tape . . . then they'll say "well, it wasn't our fault!"

I pointed this out to Mrs. ZBDent last night when we saw the promo. I think that she's starting to realize how much sense I'm making when I rant . . .

[GiovanniC]

18. Could They Stereotype Either Side Any Further?

Honestly?

[FromTheLeft]

22. It was fantastic

I was actually scared of the W family. By doing everything for her husband she was actually cutting him off from his children. Priorities have got to change in this country.

Side-note - I was a bit disappointed Dan. There are ways to convey your views without being disrespectful. I am not eluding to not sayong the pledge, or doing the dishes to show equality, in fact doing his own dishes was one of the best displays of non-violent disobedience I have seen in a while.

But when I talk politics to those who don't share my view and the talk over me I shut them off. He had such great things to say and I think that if he had allowed the drone to speak and then country pointed I believe he would have been much more effective.

[TOOLZ]

24. Exactly--

And that was what he had to learn. He wasn't all right. You catch more flies with honey...

Now how do we flood all the Red States with honey?

[IrateCitizen]

35. Ummm... you do realize that Dan is 17, right???

I mean, were you so well versed in the arts of persuasion when you were 17? Were you anywhere close to as politically savvy as Dan when you were 17?

I sure as hell wasn't, on both counts!

He'll figure things out as he goes along. People often learn these things as they get older. It's part of growing up.

[FromTheLeft]

41. Actually...

I was, I was the first freshman in the history of my College to be voted into the Vice Presidency of our student government. I am only 23 now and still have friends at that age, and they all know how to "sell an idea". They all understand that anger towards someones views will immediately shut that person off and assuring no chance at them hearing.

[cags]

43. My daughter is 13 and she was disappointed in his delivery

She is just like that 17yr old, but able to make her points without being combative, which immediately turns people off. If he had spoken with a little less anger and defiance I think he could have made her think a bit more

We did talk about him being young though and very passionate about his beliefs

[Guaranteed]

63. I agree. He started out great, but then

took it way overboard, especially when he started bagging on her religion and made her cry. I was holding my head in my hands. Ashamed.

[alphafemale]

77. He stepped over into something close to cruelty. But he recovered some

...I think and showed her a different way when he did the dishes, and spoke calmly with her about his views.

[earth mom]

79. I was PROUD of Dan! He ROCKED!

We need more people like him-young and old! He beautifully and eloquently made every talking point the left needs to have out there be said and heard on main stream t.v.! It was priceless!

Dan wasn't disrespectful-he was forceful-because the freeper mom had tuned him out which was disrespectful on her part! That's what they do-close their minds and throw away the key to not allow any other information in! I felt sad for her for a moment when she started to cry...but it was more about being sorry for how absolutely clueless she is!

[FromTheLeft]

82. Chicken or the Egg

Was he over the top because she wouldn't listen or did she tune him out because he was was over the top (based on a stereotype like:"That's what they do-close their minds and throw away the key to not allow any other information in!"). We weren't there, we don't know. But in either case it was wrong. Do not sink to that leave unless absolutely necessary, and in this case I don't think it was.

[proud patriot]

26. I watched it and thought it was a hoot

it showed that both families had positives to
offer each other . Also that the military Family
really benefitted from the swap in the long run .

The anti-authority kid really reminded me of me at
that age . "drop and give med 20" LOL ..still needs
to hone his skills but a great kid none the less ...

[PA Democrat]

30. I don't usually watch this sort of thing

I was amazed when the RW mom was explaining that because "Eve partook of the apple" women had to be subservient to man.

[Jamastiene]

80. That is how many RW

men AND WOMEN think. It's ludicrous.

[donsu]

31. I applaud the son that spoke up with the truth

whether the anal mom wanted to hear it or not. she kept saying 'shut up, shut up' to him (the truth hurts) but he didn't shut up.

wasn't it great to see a teen that knows the facts and will speak out. and the show frequently showed him READING!

the poor anal mom has been kool aided to think men rule the home. what a pity she could be made to think less of herself.

and she believes the garden of eden fruit eating nonsense that women are forever sinful. aaarrrggghhh

[TOOLZ]

32. Wasn't he reading Mother Jones??

[FromTheLeft]

33. Truth and Tact

There is a reason why so many con-men are so much more beloved then so many honest men...Tact. With Tact I can sell a women jeans that make her look fat, with Tact I can convince someone to believe in the almighty. The Truth is what we need, Tact is how to deliever our message.

[tinonedown]

37. Mina was fantastic

So much so I found it hard to believe her son acted in such a way. I'll write off his boorish attitude to youthfulness but it was abreasive and ugly no matter how you package it. He could learn a lot more from his mother in 17 years.

[slor]

38. Damn...was this TIVOed by anyone? n/t

[TOOLZ]

57. I TiVo'ed...

by the looks of the interest in this thread, I think I'll have to post some of my favorite highlights.

[slor]

70. PLEASE DO!!!!! and TIA n/t

[TNOE]

39. I tell ya - Dan was TOO MUCH

in a good way of course. When he called her an ignorant american - I almost lost it. The father though just kind of seemed lost - he seemed to not know if he was coming or going - maybe too much of a pacifist. I respected Dan for not saying the pledge, I thought that was ridiculous - and for not doing the sit ups. Maybe its going to take kids like "Dan" to really change the world.

[LibDemAlways]

45. That flag saluting business was over the top.

Dan clearly thought it was ridiculous. The producers couldn't have found a better example of a kool-aid drinking woman than the one they dredged up. And the wingnut neighbors were something else. I'll bet they weren't so "pro President" when Clinton lived in the WH. Love how these rightwing idiots proclaim that "no one likes war," yet they don't give a rat's ass that the idiot moron they voted for started one for no good reason that's killed and maimed thousands of their fellow citizens. (Would be too much to expect them to care about Iraqi deaths.)

[proud patriot]

51. My favorite line from Dan was "I don't call fascists ma'am"

:evilgrin:

[Guaranteed]

64. He went way too far.

I'm hardcore against these fuckers, but a lot of the stuff he did was really tactless.

His parents were really good, though- he should pay more attention to the way they handle themselves.

[cags]

44. Everytime I watch that show, I realize how well balanced my family is. LOL

I never miss it, and I know they choose the most extreme positions, but my daughter watches it with me every week and she comes away from it saying I'm so glad your my mother every time.

I loved Dan, I just wished he could have spoke with a little less anger and combativeness, and I think he would have gotten through to that woman more than he did.

[Jamastiene]

81. I think he could have

made much more of an impact had he behaved the way he did when he washed the dishes to protest. He actually gained some ground there.

[GOPBasher]

49. "Good Christians don't go against the government."

So why didn't they get behind the war on poverty? :shrug:

[IrateCitizen]

52. Then how do they explain Jesus's actions...

... in subverting the governmental authorities of his day?

[GOPBasher]

54. An even better point! nt

[thecorster]

90. You hit the nail on the head.

As a Christian, I have NEVER understood why any other person of this faith would support the Republican philosophy. There is nothing Christlike about it. The "morals and values" debate should be the main thing Democrats have going for them... how the Repukes stole it away and made it their motto is beyond me.

Jesus' teachings tell us to support the weakest/poorest/most sinful among us. Repukes teach us to ostracize those who are different and to keep our money for ourselves. The hypocrisy is staggering and it challenges my faith daily.

Good post, by the way.

[Lorien]

85. Except when the President is a Democrat

hypocrites,every one of those brainwashed bed wetting thumb suckers!

[Stephanie]

56. "As Christians it's our duty to pray for the President"

That's what one of the neighbors said at the "peace vigil" - I wonder if they prayed for Clinton?

[denile01]

58. Hetero cons and lesbian couple

were on the show a few weeks ago. The dittohead family put Bush signs up on the lawn, as I recall. Mother was freaked about having lesbian couple taking care of her daughter. Ugly.

The program is pretty interesting, at times shows how divided we've become. Missed last night's epi but most "kool-aid drinkers" would just tag Dan as another disrespectful protestor-type of heathen liberal upbringing. Don't think they'll ever leave the Matrix.

[alphafemale]

76. That repug hetero mom was a horror show, wasn't she?

Awful, awful person. She didn't learn one damn thing.

Made that sweet, dear woman cry when the couples met by insinuating that she had done perverse things with the children and calling her deviant.

[denile01]

83. .Truly a vile human being

Reminds me of a lot of other repukes I know/have known whose souls are dead.

The husband did seem to come around a little; he warmed-up to his "swap" wife. Don't think he knew what it was like to live with a woman with feelings, or any human qualities.

[info being]

66. The matrix will cruble and the illusion will end. One day.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

73. Kick! LOL, this is great! Too bad I missed it, but thanks for the post!

[tashidelek]

89. Check out wife-swap if you haven't yet had the chance!

I'm almost ashamed to say it, but the "wife swap" show is one of THE BEST "reality" shows of the genre. I personally have learned more from watching this show than all of the "PhD" sociology classes I have ever attended (at a major un-named university). Watch it, if you haven't already. This show is well worth the time.

The show about the swap between the "liberal" and "conservative" families was particularly touching, given the deep divide we supposedly have in American politics. I was amazed that they were actually able to complete the filming!

I also thought the earlier televised swap between the lesbian couple and the fundamentalist family was very enlightening.

Again, if you haven't watched this show yet, check it out.

We all have something to learn from this show, and from each other in discussing it. Thanks OP for starting this thread. I thought I was the only "closet viewer"!