No...... Rachel confirms Lizz is gone. Why god, why?

[expatriot]

She does not say why.


On edit: For those who do not know, this concerns the Unfiltered Radio program on Air America Radio.

[SoCalDem]

1. huh?

:shrug:

[shoelace414]

3. Unfiltered on AAR

[shoelace414]

2. Lizz is gone and Chuck D is never there.

[Stand and Fight]

4. Huh?

Lizz who? What? :shrug:

[Armstead]

6. Lizz Winstead, co-host of Unfiltered on Air America.

[Shopaholic]

7. They aired a repeat show yesterday--what happened---????

It was Lizz's show--I heard Rachel say once that it was Lizz who hired her. So what happened? Does this have anything to do with their new CEO?

[BrklynLiberal]

18. Was thinking the same thing. Coincidental timing.

Hate it when they do this with no explanation!!
Think Lizz and Danny Goldberg had a bad history??

He was in comedy.

[Hugin]

35. Well that's what having a CEO gets ya...

I liked Unfiltered the way it was...

I *liked* Lizz!
I've noticed some unfavorable changes on Morning Sedition
as well.

Looks like the same ol' shell game we get everywhere
else in the media.

Hidden agendas decided by the money men.

Feh! I'll probably stop listening soon.

I'm getting really tired of this horsecrap.

[Sticky]

5. I'm bummed....

Lizz was my favourite AAR host. :cry:

[BlueEyedSon]

19. Me too, I guess I have to start lovin' Marc Maron more.

:cry:

[Mandate My Ass]

21. Mine too - I picked my new user name because of Lizz

I'm really going to miss her zingers. She is too funny.

[onecitizen]

66. Yeah this was the......

best show I thought. Loved Lizz. She made me laugh out loud which I rarely ever do. Much funnier than Franken. And Rachel is awesome too. She is always very well prepared. They made a good duo. I enjoy Chuck too, when he's there. This is sad. By-By Lizz. I wish you'd reconsider. I will miss you.

I've noticed a change in Morning Sedition too. I hope they leave them alone. MM is a little sedate lately. MR seems to be the same though.

[ElectroPrincess]

97. I'm with you Sticky ... my definite Favorite ... I'll stop listening now.

But I doubt big wig CEOs care what us "little people" think MUCH LESS provide a honest explanation why they fired her. Damn those people!

[shoelace414]

8. heh..

http://www.unfilteredradio.com/ is probably overloaded.. It's not responding

[BrklynLiberal]

20. It is down at this moment.

Rachel just said no conspiracy...not pulled.
As you said, Probably just overloaded.

[Connie_Corleone]

9. I wonder if Rachel will have another co-host?

I'm so used to hearing 2 hosts on the show.

[htuttle]

10. What's been happening on that show?

Our local AAR affiliate started carrying Stephanie Miller in the morning instead of Unfiltered (as well as Ed Schultz instead of the first few hours of Randi Rhodes' show), so I haven't heard it in about a month.

I used to enjoy that show when it was broadcast here -- has it been floundering or what?

[LizW]

11. I'm so bummed to hear this

They worked well together, with Rachel as the more serious one and Lizz as the funny one.

The announcement was very carefully worded not to reveal WHY Lizz was gone. Seems weird.

:(

[BlueEyedSon]

23. Yes, Liz was the funniest personality on AAR, IMHO. nt

[FreedomAngel82]

26. Oh yeah

Definietly. She had a bubbly personality on the show. :)

[jdj]

109. is there a link to the announcement?

I found out on a gossip blog that said "looks like there's been a shake-up at AAR" and then linked to the show site which no longer includes Lizz in the picture. Is she still writing for the daily show?

[erpowers]

12. What Happened

I want to know why she left. I would like to know if she was fired or if she just left because she wanted to go. I thought it was a good show with her there. I think it was a good balance to have one person who jokes often and one person who is more serious. I will continue to listen to the show because it is still a good show.

[BrklynLiberal]

24. It would seem that if it was her decision, they would have said so.

The fact that they are not saying anything implies that she was forced out...and the sound of Rachel's announcement also sounded like it was not a mutual agreement.
They sure sounded like they were good friends. If Lizz was going on to bigger and better Rachel would have sounded happy.

[pinellas]

27. Not necessarily...

I'd be bummed if my friend & coworker wasn't gonna be w/ me anymore, wouldn't you?

I wouldn't jump to any conclusions just yet.

[GR]

I Thought They Worked Well Together And Were Very Substantive..

They covered some great issues and had great guests...

I hope there's not trouble at Air America...I would never listen to Ed Schultz over Randi or Janeane...

I don't know a thing about Stephanie Miller...except she looks good on her web site...People say she's mealymouthed...We don't need that...

[gassed]

16. Unlike the folks on UNFILTERED...

Stephanie Miller caught on to the election fraud issue right away. Can't really say that she is mealy mouthed. In her support... I haven't heard her make a joke/reference to penis' yet.

[Edgewater_Joe]

30. That's Wrong

Rachel Maddow was doing commentary ON ELECTION NIGHT, and was talking about weirdness in Ohio before the state was called for Bush. She and Laura Flanders kept it alive for Barbara Boxer to do her thing.

[BrklynLiberal]

43. and Randi has been talking about election fraud since Nov 2000

and never stopped...straight thru Conyers hearings.
remember her having Bev Harris on the show?

[Armstead]

13. The Blog seems overloaded

I tried checking out the Unfiltered blog, but it isn't loading. Eitehr the site's down, or it's overloaded at the moment.

http://www.unfilteredradio.com/

[pinellas]

14. Sux BIGtime

I'm very sad if this means we won't be hearing Lizz Winstead anymore - she's brilliantly funny & the main reason Unfiltered is(was?) my fave show.....

Show blog basically crashed after the announcement.

[pinellas]

15. You can contact AAR....

& make your views known.

I called yesterday to find out what was going on.It may be a programming decision & public feedback might make a difference.....

http://www.airamericaradio.com

[TreasonousBastard]

17. So, NOW all the Winstead fans show up...

and all along I've seen little but bitching about her.

Unfiltered was always my favorite show on AAR, and I thought Winstead and Maddow worked brilliantly together.

But, stations have been dropping it, and something's up.

[Armstead]

25. Winstead was also Creative Director of AAR

If she's gone, it probably means she left here managerial job.

Anotehr blog (Air America Place) noted that the AAR staff has been renegotiating their contracts as it's almost been of for a year, and this may have had something to do with that.

Or else, AAR decided something had to be done because so few stations carry Unfiltered. Maddow did real good when she had a solo show in Massachusetts before, so maybe they figure it'll be stronger with a single host.

Personally, I wish Lizz were staying. I liked the chemistry between them, And Lizz tends to "lighten up" Racheal.

[TreasonousBastard]

33. And, don't forget that she was...

one of the CREATORS of the Daily Show.

She survived Craig Kilborne (remember him?) announcing to Esquire that she wanted to give him a blowjob.

Creative credits, succesful standup for years...

One really smart and funny woman, she'll end up doing OK, but I'm wondering if AAR is aiming for the lowest common denominator.

Could it be that too many of the most devoted AAR listeners are really as dumb as the devoted rightwing listerns?

[FreedomAngel82]

22. Oh no

Why did she leave? :( Maybe we can suggest someone on with her? I hope the show stays though. I enjoy listening to it in the morning before I have class. :)

[BrklynLiberal]

28. I cannot believe this was done by doing a survey of listeners.

I think most of us really liked the chemistry between them, and Lizz's rapier wit...and the way she lightened up Rachel's 'seriousness'.
If it was the decision of just one person, perhaps public outcry can make a change, if that is what Lizz wants.
I am very disappointed in this change.

[Edgewater_Joe]

29. Springer, SIRIUS, and UNFILTERED

There was a story a week ago that a Chicago station may be picking up most AAR shows - but UNFILTERED was notoriously absent. That slot was for Jerry Springer's show. I figured it was because he taped in Chicago, but with this announcement I wonder if they're gonna try something.

I should also note that a couple of weeks ago Maddow substituted for Michaelangelo Signorile on Sirius' GLBT stream, and they just had a lineup shift themselves, so I wonder if she's laying some groundwork herself.

One thing it shows, folks: radio's a mean and nasty buisness. Entire formats get flipped on a moment's notice - it's one reason AAR is starting to build some momentum - and if you go into it, you need to be ready to be cut when it does.

If Lizz is no longer with the network I'm sure she'll be bought out, and if UNFILTERED is not being picked up it'll have to be changed. It's that simple. Randi and Ed Schultz are both getting picked up -- both are allegedly on tap for the Chicago market -- but this show is not. Simple as that.

[gassed]

31. In the Madison area...

Ed Shultz took a big chunk out of Randi's time slot. I can't understand that at all. Is it because he is a little nicer to his callers? He seems like he would appeal more to the MOR Franken crowd.

[tishaLA]

32. In Los Angeles we don't have Unfiltered either

they air Morning Sedition back to back at 3 AM and 6 AM. I'm listening to Stephanie Miller now, though; she's politically astute and very funny. However, I just heard on her stream that during Randi's absence they are airing Springer and they are openly soliciting feedback on his show--like maybe they would replace Randi with Springer on that station. Crazy that lefty radio has become so successful so quickly that they're having on-air personality warfare.

[Edgewater_Joe]

36. That's Clear Channel Getting Back At Randi

If I'm not mistaken, Clear Channel is the syndicator for Springer (at least at the moment). Because I'm fairly sure Springer and Randi are friendly towards one another -- unlike her open dislike for Ed Schultz, who Randi insists is nothing more than an opportunistic Republican.

I know I prefer strong personalities, which is why I listen to the Marks, Randi and Malloy over Franken, Schultz, and UNFILTERED.

[gassed]

38. Yes...stronger personalities...

and not tragically "hip"

[ronnykmarshall]

86. Why?

Randi worked for Clear Channel for years in Florida. She had the #1 show.

Why would Clear Channel be getting back at Randi?

[BrklynLiberal]

44. REALITY BITES - They even made a movie with that name.

(Janeane Garafolo was in it...)

[coffeenap]

34. I am exploding with anger. AAR is supposed to be

the beginning of a powerful national progressive network. What will be left soon is the MOR crap that was designed to pull in ratings AT THE BEGINNING. Do they have ANOTHER imposter in charge as they did at the very beginning?

There is no other place to hear two intelligent women discuss things that have nothing to do with hair and nail polish. I AM PISSED!

[Hugin]

37. My feelings exactly... n/t

[BrklynLiberal]

and I get the feelng tha Lizz was in on the labor pains and the birth..

I want to know the detials of what the hell is going on hear and if she was screwed. Even if she was bought out, and made millions out of the deal, that does not necessarily make up for the knife in her creative back.

[BrklynLiberal]

58. Absolutely right!

The time was not great for people at work...who may not be able to listen in an office, but for those of us who either work at home, or in an environment where radio is allowed, it was/is the perfect alternative to the bubblegum for the mind that is on TV.

[Edgewater_Joe]

39. This Thread Tells You All You Need To Know

Not to be cruel, but it's an hour after the visit and this thread doesn't have 40 hits? A typical Malloy thread has this many in 15 minutes sometimes.

That, I am afraid, says a lot about why AAR made this move.

And if you noticed on their front page, they just picked up another affiliate, so they seem to have the right mix and are getting listeners from SOMEwhere, so those who claim this is a move of doom on their part just don't seem to be right.

[MsTryska]

40. Yeah, but i wouldn't necessarily say that this is Unfiltered fault tho.

Unfiltered is one of the shows i compleyely miss, because i'm at work.


I can't stream audio here, it would be too distracting to listen in any case, and political talk radio has no business in the workplace, imo.

I catch morning sedition on my way in, i catch al during lunch, and i catch randi on the way out in the evenings.


i don't get air america at my house so i pretty much miss everything if i'm not in my car.


i can understand if their ratings are low - they don't have a plum slot.

[coffeenap]

41. I beg to differ--if you can't hear the show, you don't

have comments to make. Radio programmers are ALWAYS cowards when it comes to innovating. Unfiltered is an innovation--previously unproven, a risk to take--at first. Many stations did not pick it up so it was not universally available. It is (was) a great show.

[coffeenap]

55. Long time regular poster on the blog says he

communicated with Lizz. She says "support Rachel" and that she'll be ok. No explanation given. on edit--sorry-didn't mean to respon to my own post-don't know how to change it.)

[BrklynLiberal]

57. Thanks for the info. Amazing you were able to get thru to the blog...

Guess the story will get out eventually....

EDIT: Am sure no one will blame Rachel. She seems as shaken as the rest of us.

[Hugin]

42. Not to be cruel...

But, it's not *all-about-ratings*... Not a sporting event
to be ranked and scored.

It's only been a year... A unique show like Unfiltered
requires time to develop an audience.

I think back on when I witnessed a local radio personality
off air yelling, "YIPPIE! We're going to war!" In Feb. 2003.
That's when I realized our media was damaged and due for
a change.

I saw that change in AAR... Now, it's gone again.

CEO = Corporate mentality E.O.S.

[jerryman814]

45. Lizz's departure has nothing to do with Air America's new CEO...

Why would an entering CEO fire one of their bigger personalities? WHy not just fire some of the lower guys? Jumping to conclusions is not the right idea...

I intern at AAR, and although I am not at liberty to say why she is gone, it has nothing to do with Danny Goldberg...

[Pirate Smile]

46. Are they going to pick up Springer or another show for this time

slot? Just looking for clues. You can let us know if something is in the works.

[coffeenap]

47. OK, why is no one at liberty to say?? nt

[pinellas]

63. Because it's unprofessional...nt

[coffeenap]

65. I understand professional, been one. However, I think there are

times when it is unprofessional to not speak and this is one of them.
(Unprofessional can also be a smokescreen for "secret" or "embarassing".
IMHO.

[KittyWampus]

48. Not Everyone Is A Fan Of Unfiltered.

[Hugin]

51. Not Everyone Is A Fan Of O'Reilly Either."

n/t

[lostnfound]

Fan here. I really like Lizz and if she's out I'm really going to miss her

I subscribe to Sirius just to get AAR.

[Hugin]

56. XM here...

I listen on my many lonely hours on the road.

In all honesty... The more they've changed AAR
the less I listen.

There's a real misogynist undertone lately.

[BrklynLiberal]

59. I remember when they first started there was a woman on Morning Sedition

a British woman...
I HOPE it is not mysogynistic...That would be so disheartening!!!!

[coffeenap]

61. I remember too--I liked her and wondered what happened there.

So many programmers are men living in the "old world". I hope mysogyny is not the reason too. However, Rachel is exactly the opposite of the ususal woman on the air, as is Randi, so I am not TOO worried about that particular thing--yet...

[Hugin]

70. But, but, but...

What I'm worried about is that regular women (for lack
of a better term) are under-represented. They are a
group which is highly under-represented in the media as a
whole. In fact they're always portrayed as side-kicks
and Me too'ers. They have no voice and I for one am
really interested in what they think. Cuz, I have a
close friend who I love dearly in that demographic.

If there are too many strong and different female
personalities on AAR. The RWers are simply going
to point to it and say, "LOOK! They're *not* like
us or you." At which point, I'll say... "See, I
told you so."

[coffeenap]

72. Understood, and food for thought. thanks ( i'm one of them too.)

[gassed]

76. So are you saying...

that it is important to appease right wingers? I personally could care less about what any right winger thinks. This is for us.

Besides...Randi and Stephanie are about as regular as they get....

[Hugin]

77. I'm not appeasing right wingers...

... I'm appeasing my wife and others like
her.

I've never heard Stephanie she's not on XM.
Lizz was.

Randi is okay... But, she isn't in the same
demographic as my sweetheart.

[BrklynLiberal]

81. Excellent point.

[Hugin]

83. I like Janeane Garofalo...

I thought I'd say that... So, I wouldn't be accused
of being a RWer again.

Also, so it can never be said... Well, nobody said
they liked her.

So there!

[NuttyFluffers]

111. i remember and liked her too... and loved lizz

she always brightened the show.

the show unfiltered was a perfect mix of insightful and focused (rachel), bubbly and quick (lizz), and mellow and pensive (chuck). it was like a martini. you don't mess with such excellence. easily my second favorite show after randi rhodes. somehow, as much as i love malloy, unfiltered was the one show i kept more recordings on my computer after randi.

lizz will be missed. maybe she was tapped to help make that al gore channel? dunno, but i'll miss my 'morning martini.'

[TreasonousBastard]

64. That was Sue Ellicot...

who's wonderful, but has far too many gigs to show up for five days in the wee hours.

I still hear her on some of the silly PRI game shows, and she's a pisser.

[coffeenap]

67. Thank you--couldn't bring her name to mind--I wonder if she is

available to work with Rachel.

[BrklynLiberal]

80. Thanks. Could not come up with her name.

[Hugin]

68. AAR was the *only* reason...

... I bought my XM.

I chose it for their "America Left" channel. It's
a XM edited version of AAR. I got it in March of
last year and chose it because they had some semblance
of liberal radio. Even though they hadn't established
any Public Radio, yet.

About that same time I had become enormously disenchanted
with NPR.

Yeah, Sue Ellicot... All she was ever allowed to
say on Morning Sedition amounted to, "Me too."
Similar in effect to Alan Colmes on FOX.

I like M. Riley... If he were to leave I'd probably
stop listening entirely.

[coffeenap]

69. It is why we got Sirius--and encouraged about 50 others to do the same.nt

edited for spelling

[Hugin]

49. Closed door decisions are just another symptom of the corporate disease.

n/t

[BrklynLiberal]

50. Cool. Must be an interesting place.

You can let themknow how unhappy we are at this turn of events, just in case it WAS a bureaucratic decision.
And wish Lizz the best from her fans and let her know we miss her.

[BrklynLiberal]

53. If she left of her own accord pull your left ear, if she was forced out,

pull your right ear.

[annabanana]

54. OK.. tell us ALL the things "it has nothing to do with"

and then just don't answer when we guess right..:wtf:

[TreasonousBastard]

60. OK, lemme guess...

she co-created the Daily Show but walked out after Kilborne's blowjob comment.

She was in at the beginning of The Man Show, and took a hike from that one soon after it opened.

Other projects, like O2Be, never really took off, so we don't know how long she would have lasted.

And, 2 divorces (I'll get yelled at for bringing tha up, but what the hell).

OK, so we know she's big on talent, can work her ass off, and knows how to play the game.

But, like a lot of other creative people, she gets itchy to move on and when somebody gives her shit, that's as good an excuse as any to just pick up and leave.

Am I close?

[coffeenap]

62. Those reasons sound like she created it all and someone more

"powerful" stole it away from her control and turned it into something she never intended. Unfiltered doesn't seem like that to me.

[TreasonousBastard]

71. Maybe, but...

there are always those dynamics going on, and she's nobody's fool. The Daily Show didn't change until after she left and Kilborne took the other job. It was a writer's show, and she was the writer. Kilborne was on his way out anyway, so who else would push her out of her own show?

I'm going with that she saw something that pissed her off and just took a hike. Could be as simple as stations dropping the show. Not only is that an insult, it spells doom for the whole project.

[coffeenap]

74. Either of us could be right--or wrong. We can't know cuz we weren't

there. I think though, that many powerful women get pushed out once they seem to be to hard-assed no matter how talented they are. An old prejudice that won't go away for some stupid reason.

[jerryman814]

93. Not even close... n/t

[ElectroPrincess]

101. I don't think so ... AAR has hardly "taken off" as compared to HATE

RW radio. This stinks to high heaven!

[ElectroPrincess]

99. Then the "powers that be" need to tell their listeners WHY.

[merh]

52. I refuse to listen to them any longer. They dynamics suck without

Liz...

I listen to Stephanie Miller - her show is much better.

http://www.wavz.com/main.html

[onehandle]

73. Newsflash about Media Operations.

People come and go. In the almost a year that AAR has been on the Air, no one has left. I'm sad to see her go, but I see no conspiracy.

If anything, it makes AAR seem even more like a Media Conglomerate. Makes AAR feel more "real".

People come and go in this business all of the time.

[coffeenap]

75. Um, been in the media--thanks for the flash. It doesn't mean

AAR couldn't begin to be different. Aren't we progressives supposed to be, um, progressive? (Costco vs. Walmart comes to mind.)

[Hugin]

78. Sue Ellicot left. n/t

[BrklynLiberal]

79. Right..that was her name..The one that was on Morning Sedition wit Mark

and Marc. She left very early on.

[Hugin]

82. I guess there was some kind of documentary...

... about AAR on cable.

There might've been some discussion of these topics.

I didn't see it as I don't have cable TeeVee.

Anyone see it?

[onehandle]

85. There you go. People leave.

Better offers.

Personal reasons.

Lay-offs.

Just plain firings.

[ronnykmarshall]

87. Wow! Someone gets it!

I can't believe some of the posts I've just read. There isn't some tin foil hat conspiracy going on. AAR is a BUSINESS.

[Hugin]

90. Yeeeup... Just like FOX News.

I thought it was different... Now, I'll just treat
it the way I treat Fox... By not watching or listening.

Bye y'all.

[ronnykmarshall]

91. Watch out for the door!

:eyes:

I'm sure Ann Coulter will be hired soon!

:eyes:

[Hugin]

92. I wouldn't doubt it...

Look, the reason I'm all "uppity" about this
is I've seen it happen so many times.

It's the corporate creep... I adjust.

Now, if I had a reason for the personnel and
programming changes. I might feel differently.

But, what do they care. To them, I'm just
another statistic.

Hey, it's a busin... I mean corporation.

I guess you guys missed all the posts
about the Corporate Media Cartel.

There's only been a million of them.

[ElectroPrincess]

102. After pulling this sh*tty stunt so EARLY in their life, Yeah, I wouldn't

doubt it. Anything to boost ratings, ya know. :nuke:

[jerryman814]

94. You are absolutely correct... AAR is a business...

just like most media operations.

[ElectroPrincess]

100. Screw that thought! It was the BASE of loyal listeners who fought

for AAR. WE deserve a full explanation why Lizz Winstead is gone. Without that, I'm removing my car sticker and packing it up ... they will be like any other corporation then ... no accountability.

[otohara]

84. Wow Talking About PIZZA For 20 Minutes Now - Big Improvement

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz I want Lizz

[Stirk]

88. I could never get into that show- and I don't understand why Chuck D is

still promoted as being part of it. I like Chuck alot- always liked his music and read plenty of interviews with him. He's got alot to say. He just doesn't say any of it on the radio, for some reason.

[nashville_brook]

89. i LOVE unfiltered -- finally funny women who talk about stuff i'm

interested in. rachel does a great show on her own -- they are great together. anyway you dice it, unfiltered is *my* oprah.

could it just be that Lizz is also a performer who does tours and has other writing gigs, might need to take advantage of an opportunity to grow her body of work. radio is an artform onto itself. if you don't have the radio gene, like howard stern does, i can totally understand the need do something more visual or something with more dynamics. i think about that alot with air america hosts -- if you come from doing camera work, radio can seem really limiting.

[Armstead]

95. I Wish they'd come clean about this

I was reading the Unfiltered blog and there's all kinds of dark speculation.

Seems like Air America ought to come clean about it. Rven if they have to say something nebulous like "creative differences."

But their silence seems to be insensitive to listeners, especially since the whole premise of Unfiltered is about not "burying the lead."

[underpants]

96. Well it could be a personal reason

not a personnel reason but personal.

I'm just saying

[ElectroPrincess]

105. Sure, and all of the * Administrations forced resignations are on

account of personAL reasons too ... more time with the family and all. I'm super peeved ... going out to remove my sticker now. All those hours that I streamed AAR even when I had to leave the house, just to do "my little" part to boost their numbers. NOW they force out the BEST talent on that station. That's it ... I'm jaded forever ...

CORPORATIONS are GOD = Get used to it. :mad:

[Ganja Ninja]

98. I'm not a big fan of unfiltered.

I usually stream from AM 960 the quake in San Fransisco. They run Morning Sedition from 6:00 am EST to noon EST. Randi Rhodes is OK but I would rather listen to Ed Schultz.

[bluestateguy]

103. I wish we could get Mo Rocca for Air America

I'm not sure if he is a liberal, and he'd have to be serious sometimes, but I think he would fit the format of the show very well.

[Skidmore]

104. Oh, man, I can't stand that guy. When he's on Countdown

I change the channel or hit the mute button. I don't understand why people think he's funny.

[jdj]

110. He's the poor man's Steven Colbert. n/t

[ronnykmarshall]

106. FYI - From Tim Allen ,

http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/randirhodes/messageboards/index.php?showtopic=40818&st=20

This was a quick message from Randi Rhodes' producer on her website. Some the same rummors, questions and rants have been posted over there as well.

Basically, the sky is NOT falling.

[eyepaddle]

107. Well damn,

I really liked Lizz's quick wit and humor. She will be missed, I'll support her in the future--as I will continue to listen to Rachel.

That's all I've got for now; until more information comes out the rest of this is just speculation.

Good Luck Liz!

[PennyK]

108. I'm with you

It has been a good show, and running after the goofiness of Marc Maron, it was like a quick sip of crisp ginger ale - informative and funny. The interaction was great...although Rachel is very good on her own, Lizz was more like your Everywoman in her reactions to stuff. She will be missed!

[REP]

112. Sam Seder'sTake On the Matter:

folks - enough with the Lizz stuff. We don't even see folks from that show- I haven't seen Lizz or Rachel in months.




Lizz isn't the first on air person to leave the network (ellicot) and certainly not the first person to leave who worked at aar.




I honestly don't know the details but i can assure you it had nothing to do with her politics or aar's politics.




Lizz will be fine and the network will be fine. JG and I wish her the best, I am sure if everything was working from her perspective she'd still be with unfiltered. My guess is all parties involved are the better for the way it worked out




Posted by: SEDER at March 4, 2005 09:53 PM