Donald Rumsfeld should have been fired.

[bobthedrummer]

He's a war criminal imo.

[bryant69]

1. Well on what grounds?

ON being a war criminal? Or on being an incompetent who fought harder to preserve a tax cut for the wealthy than for the equipment our troops need to do their jobs?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[bobthedrummer]

3. Competency would weigh heavily here.

A lot of troops have been sacrificed, a lot of friends alienated.

[JHB]

2. He should have been out the door so fast...

...his incompetent ass should have skid marks.

[7th_Sephiroth]

4. let me finish your headline

Donald Rumsfeld should have been Fired out of a cannon. The little prick

[DireStrike]

6. Cannon?

He might live!

I think you meant to say "He should be fired out of a bb gun."

[7th_Sephiroth]

8. he wouldent live

15lbs of powder and minimal wadding, he would be burned to a crisp before he left the cannon, then the force of the blast would tear his limbs and head off his body and he would hit the ground at about the speed of sound

[seemslikeadream]

5. Just make sure he answers a few questions

McKinney: I would like that question to be answered in public Mr. Chairman

McKinney: Well Mr. Chairman, the problem is - and I appreciate your adherence to the five-minute rule - however there are many of us who have important questions and my question in particular is about the four war games that were taking place on September 11th and how they may have impaired our ability to respond to those attacks.

Mr. Hunter: Well let me say the gentle lady...


McKinney: I would like that question to be answered in public Mr. Chairman.

Hunter: Let me say to the gentle lady we're going to have other opportunities to have the Secretary in front of us and what we will do beyond having questions, if you want a question for the record, be able to put that to the record and have the answer on the record, but additionally at the next event where the Secretary testifies - we'll try to make sure that happens - we will start with the folks who did not get their question answered so you will have an opportunity.

McKinney: Thank you so much Mr. Chairman, and I hope the record is still open so that even that portion of my comment will be on this record.

Hunter: It will be so ordered.

McKinney: Thank you Mr. Chairman.

-- end of transcript

At this point Representative Skelton (D-MO) asked a visibly flustered Donald Rumsfeld if in the future a classified briefing could occur on the recommendations given by General Luck and his team to the Secretary.

This helped to bury McKinney's question (and by necessity, the process continues: DoD has posted a peculiar "transcript" of the meeting's final moments, from which Representative McKinney's question has been thoroughly deleted), giving Rumsfeld a way to divert attention from the issue she had skillfully placed on the record. Rumsfeld responded to Skelton's question without addressing McKinney's at all. The only response to her question came in the form of both Rumsfeld and Myers' rapid hand movements and off-microphone murmurs. The issue seemed to knock Rumsfeld off-balance, affecting him as it had affected Ralph "Ed" Eberhart at the final 9/11 Commission hearing.

It's unlikely that "No comment" will be an acceptable reply to Representative McKinney's question. Eberhart got away with that when responding to this reporter, and has since retired from his post heading both NORTHERN COMMAND and NORAD. His retirement came immediately after the 2004 presidential election. It appears "no comment" will be his final word on the matter, but that will not be the case for Secretary Rumsfeld and General Myers.

Who was in charge of coordinating the multiple war games running on 9/11? Crossing the Rubicon has already answered this question in spades. But maybe, just maybe, with her return to Capitol Hill Cynthia McKinney has kept alive a flicker of hope that the crimes of 9/11 may yet shake up the US government.

more
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/030105_mckinney_question.shtml#1

[DireStrike]

7. He "stuck his neck out" and Junior praised him instead of firing him.

But is it really sticking your neck out if you know you won't be fired?

[UdoKier]

9. I put "disagree" for one reason.

He has executed his duties as Secy of Defense EXACTLY as Bush and Cheney wanted him to. I don't want to see Scummy Rummy used as a scapegoat to let those bastards off the hook, and I'm afraid that's exactly what Rummy being fired/resigning would result in.

They ALL need to be before the Hague - not just one lackey fired.

[bobthedrummer]

10. They are all following a gameplan-PNAC.

The man is incompetent.

[UdoKier]

11. How has the way he has carried out his job been incongruous...

... with Bush & Cheney's stated goals?

This fish has rotted from the head down.

[bobthedrummer]

12. Abu Ghraib.

[UdoKier]

15. That came from Bush down.

Bush told Gonzalez to find a way to make torture legal, and Gonzalez wrote the infamous "quaint" memo.

I can't believe you would give Bush & Cheney a pass on Abu Ghraib, when it was THEIR POLICY.

[bobthedrummer]

16. No, I hold the Executive Branch culpable too.

But this is from the Office of Special Plans and within the Office of Force Transformation-DoD responsibilities.

[ryan_cats]

13. The buck stops

The buck stops here. Or it used to. He's the man so they say so guess what? He's responsible for a myriad of things:
1) Abu graib.
2) Running of the occupation.
3) More

[bobthedrummer]

14. Central to understanding Rumsfeld are the concepts of the Revolution in

Military Affairs/RMA and Revolution in Political and Military Affairs/RPMA.

RMA
http://www.datafilter.com/mc/rmaWarCollege.html

RPMA
http://www.guerrillacampaign.com/coup.htm

[DemGirl7]

17. Of course Rummy should have been fired...

but the whole Bush Administration should have be fired too , because they are all war criminals on some level. But Bush didn't get fired, because 51% of those who voted are brainwashed, and therefore, the rest of the Administration got promoted because the rule in Bush's Empire is The more conservative you are, the more of a neocon you are,and the more you mess up, means you get rewarded for your ass kissing.

[bobthedrummer]

18. They call it "loyalty", they only reward loyalty. They have no ethics.