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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:23 PM
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Three Cheers for the Supreme Court for upholding the 8th amendment!!
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 12:27 PM by MikeG
We have joined the civilized world in not executing children.

HIP HIP HURRAY!!!
HIP HIP HURRAY!!!
HIP HIP HURRAY!!!
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:24 PM
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1. About time !
The freepers are gonna hate this.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:26 PM
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2. A step in the right direction.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:26 PM
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3. Who wrote the opinion and how was the vote split
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:28 PM
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4. Kennedy - 5-4
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:32 PM
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5. I missed this - did they ban execution on a Federal level? - and what is
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 12:34 PM by Maraya1969
the legal age of "children"? I was horrified when that 12 year old boy who killed his parents while on Zoloft and obviously bi-polar was sentenced to LIFE. I think he was 15 at his trial.

Also there is the '"Tomato Patch Killer" where the boy killed the grandfather who was so abusive to the rest of the family they were all grateful that he did it. The jury found him innocent of murder but guilty of some sort of theft so he would have a small sentence. Well, the judge gave the kid LIFE IMPRISONMENT for the theft! All the jurors said they would not have convicted him on anything had they known the judge would have imposed such a CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT.

Now we just have to get rid of the death penalty for everyone. It serves no purpose and the ones that really suffer are the family. Who are completely innocent.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:38 PM
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6. No execution of anyone who was under 18 at the time of the crime.
All jurisdictions state or federal.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:43 PM
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9. Sadly, the sentence he received was the legal MINIMUM.
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 12:43 PM by Cuban_Liberal
It made me sick, too. However, the upside (if such exists), is that he will be eligible for parole at some future date.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:39 PM
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7. This is a HUGE win for those of us who oppose capital punishment.
I'm walking on air!

:D
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:42 PM
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8. Boo hoo
What is Scalia bitching about? That the court thinks itself sole arbiter of the nation's moral standard. Me thinks not. That the court decided the nations moral standard are actually higher than his own. Yeah that's more like it. Only he doesn't got the guts to actually write that! Having listen to Scalia pop off more than once about moral standards it's pretty clear he doesn't really believe in his own words that he wrote. Last time I checked the courts job is to say in words what laws do not. That's it's job. To judge the laws to see that they are constitutional.



"The court says in so many words that what our people's laws say about the issue does not, in the last analysis, matter: 'In the end our own judgment will be brought to bear on the question of the acceptability of the death penalty,'" he wrote.

"The court thus proclaims itself sole arbiter of our nation's moral standards," Scalia wrote.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:47 PM
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10. I believe we may be slowly creeping towards getting rid of
the practice altogether. How much longer can they say it is cruel and unusual to kill a 17yo but not an 18yo?
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:49 PM
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11. It Is Kind of a Sad Day
When the best we can celebrate is that our country is no longer putting children to death.

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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:51 PM
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12. Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.
Edited on Tue Mar-01-05 12:51 PM by Cuban_Liberal
This is but a step in the long march toward abolition, GiovanniC, and no less the cause for celebration because it is only that. Peace.

:hi:
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 12:55 PM
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13. I Am Not Saying That It Isn't
Just commenting on the sadness of it.

In other news, I'm hoping to be seen as a role model for animal rights supporters everywhere now that I have stopped feeding kittens into my band saw.

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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:13 PM
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14. Sarcasm noted.
Trust me, GiovaniC, you won't find anyone on ths board who thinks that CP is more barbaric than I think it is.

:hi:
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:17 PM
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15. A small battle in a long, but righteous war.
Thanks be to God!

:thumbsup:
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