For those keeping track, we should hit 1,500 casualities today or tomorrow

[mopaul]

sorry to be so ghoulish, sorry to remind you about statistics and such but the official count this morning is 1,496 as i write.

there was a slight mention of the numbers when they hit one thousand, but it's just numbers, which always sound confusing and are easily manipulated. and each number is one of our son's or daughter's whom we will never see again except for those photos of them in uniform, looking so proud and eager and hopeful.

the 'statistics' are here:
http://icasualties.org/oif/

[acmavm]

1. What strikes me a being so sad is that 1500 isn't the true number of

casualties, at least not from what I understand. That's the number of poor men and women who are dead on the spot, not that die later.

15 or 1500, what does it matter if you died for lies, lust for power, and unsurpassed greed?

[LynnTheDem]

4. If they are wounded in Iraq and die later, YES they are included.

And no, 1 or 15 or 1500 or 15,000 makes no difference at all when tehy've died for lies & the greed of rich politicians and their cronies. Or as bush put it, his Haves and Have-Mores.

[peacebird]

2. we ought to always mention the DEAD and the CASUALTIES together

sorry - not slamming you mopaul - but it annoys the hell out of me that the DEAD are called "casualties" and the injured are not mentioned at all. I think we ought to have a listing of all our amputies, blind, brain damaged, etc... Let's get the true cost out there and in the public eye.

Each dead soldier leaves a trail of walking wounded as well, with their grieving families and friends.

The TRUE COST needs to be trumpeted from the rooftops.

[mopaul]

3. technically casualty means killed OR wounded

and fatality is the preferred pentagon terminology. there are about 3 or 4 thousand blinded, crippled and mentally scarred g.i.'s that go unmentioned, as do the over 100,000 dead Iraqi civilians who never attacked us.

[LynnTheDem]

5. It's 10,740 at least blinded, crippled, brain-dead etc, per DoD

Wounded In Action According to The DoD

Period Wounded
Jan-2005 442
Dec-2004 531
Nov-2004 1367
Oct-2004 641
Sep-2004 703
Aug-2004 891
Jul-2004 552
Jun-2004 584
May-2004 755
Apr-2004 1209
Mar-2004 323
Feb-2004 146
Jan-2004 188
Dec-2003 261
Nov-2003 337
Oct-2003 413
Sep-2003 247
Aug-2003 181
Jul-2003 226
Jun-2003 147
May-2003 54
Apr-2003 340
Mar-2003 202

Total 10740

http://icasualties.org/oif/

[peacebird]

6. pentagon doesn't "do" body counts for the indiginous population

We're too busy bringing the country "freedom" and "liberty" to worry about the people with the misfortune of trying to live there....

[dbt]

7. Cheney smiles one-sidedly as he raises another goblet of blood.

Business is so good these days!

[gristy]

8. "We can WIN the war in Vietnam!"

[bowens43]

9. I am much more interested in knowing the number of Iraqis

killed as a direct or indirect result of the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq.

[anarchy1999]

10. I just keep wondering about the 1,000's of Iraqi' and all the soldiers

who don't count in the official death toll. The ones who die in hospital and the ones who commit suicide and so on and so forth, also the contractors/mercenaries and the poor guys who accidently die in "accidents".

[bigtree]

11. *

[Vladimir]

12. We hit 1,500 casualties a long time ago

they just weren't counted

[catmandu57]

13. Sadly Vladimir, I believe you're correct

It shouldn't be such a hard job to hide fatalities, not for these people who have taken creative accounting courses at the feet of kenny boy lay, and bernie ebbers the guy who gave dick crashcart such good advise.
Someday, the true numbers will come out, and they will shock even the most hared hearted.