Gannongate

[Beer Snob-50]

just a thought, but does anyone think we are helping teh repubs by harping on the gay website angle to this story? I think the story is actually the fact that this non-journalist was able to get into a white house press conference to lob softballs to our commander in thief. I think the main story is that manipulation of the press is a time honored traditon of great leaders (sarcasm people!) like stalin and hitler.

[Webster Green]

1. How does having hookers in the White House help the repugs?

Gay or straight hookers, it doesn't matter.

How does this information help BushCo Inc.?

[Beer Snob-50]

4. i don't think hookers is the actual story!

i think that a guy was able to get into the wh with no press creditials.

[Webster Green]

10. Oh, I agree that the main story is access and security...

I just don't see how the other part helps the repukes at all.

[Beer Snob-50]

12. no it does help the repubs at all

but do you think that angle gives the repubs more ammunition against the left?

[Webster Green]

17. Not much...

They can say we are anti-gay, but I don't think that will stick. The story stays in the news. They are left with having a gay HOOKER, in the white House lobbing softballs at press briefings.

[Pachamama]

21. It's not that he's Gay - HE'S A TAX-EVADING WHORE THAT PIMPS FOR BUSH!

I could care less if he's gay (although I sure bet the Christian Fundies care that as GAY whore was in the White House).

But the reality is this - the bigger story is how did a WHORE/PROSTITUTE/MALE ESCORT manage to get himself into the White House press corp everyday for 2 years without any journalist background and lob softball questions and shill for this administration (and who was paying him?) when someone like you or me who are law abiding, tax paying citizens can't even get admitted to a Bush town hall meeting?

That is the real story and questions behind Gannongate, not whether he is a homosexual. And I think there is a definite need to investigate how he managed to possibly scoop others in stories and any ties he may have to the Valerie Plame outing, the Tom Daschle smearing, the Dan Rather Memo set up and more....The more digging and investigating, the more crap is going to be uncovered. And if he also happened to boinking someone in the White House who happened to bend the rules to get him in there and get him perks and purposely give him inside info, well, that is just icing on the cake....

[Swamp Rat]

27. Right on Pachamama!

:hi:

[Pachamama]

28. OMG that Picture of "Republican Man-Whore" w/ Sponge Bob is Awesome!

:yourock: Swamp Rat!

That is great....I want to print those out and distribute them....they are fabulous....I think we should send some to James Dobson and the Family Research Council as post cards and to every other GOP or Christian Fundie....Oh Yeah! Don't forget to send one to the White House with lots of love and to every single Senator's office!

Seriously! When a picture says a 1000 words.....go for it!

:bounce:

[Swamp Rat]

29. HAHA! Be my guest.

Spread Gannon's love everywhere. :D

If you want to watch a fundie's head explode, post this on some church bulletin boards:

[benburch]

2. Listen to Yesterday's Blogcall on this subject.

http://www.WhiteRoseSociety.org/Blogcall.html

[Jade Fox]

3. Read this....

http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/05/02/int05009.html

Its long but well worth it, and it addresses the issues you bring up very
well.

[EVDebs]

5. It's called plausible denial and the operation is Operation Mockingbird

that the Church commission outted in the 70's, at the same time GHWB was doing damage control in the media.

[BeFree]

6. The press angle

...is not surprising. The press has been prostituting for a long time.

What surprises me is that the White House, much to it's horror, is gone to the other side.

What will we tell the children?

[machiado]

7. Read these articles

The hypocrisy of the Republicans about gays IS a big story. It is also a scandal when someone breaking the law (as prostitution is against the law) gets daily access to the whitehouse.

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/003788.php#more



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/19/204254/937

[Beer Snob-50]

14. i think the bigger story is the prostituton of the media!

[Catamount]

25. Yes that is the BIG story, how can we bring it out - to stay?

[Must_B_Free]

8. Q:

Is it possible that Gannon was pitching his soft balls back and forth at the president?

[bluedeminredstate]

9. There are many aspects to this story

that would have sparked numerous hearings in the House if President Clinton was the C-I-C when this Gannon scandal became public.
Just think of Vince Foster's suicide and the number of hearings, which basically were trying to tie President Clinton or his wife to the "case" as a killer!! Based on nothing to warrant such scrutiny!
This Gannon story has so many angles and ties to big names. I think any digging is good because it's bound to turn something up. I don't want this to go away. It makes them nervous.

[Beer Snob-50]

15. maybe gannongate can be tied to clinton?

you know, bill and hillary gave him a lifetime press pass which he saved to use til now. they did htis because they had a thing for gay rights.

[nashville_brook]

11. right now The Story is how the MSM isn't covering The Story

despite NUMEROUS "hooks."

that guck/gann was a non-journ is a HOOK.
that a DECISION was made on a DAILY BASIS to let this non-journ in, is a HOOK.
that guck/gann was bankrolled by GOP operatives, is a HOOK.
that guck/gann was operating under an alias, is a HOOK

but these are mincemeat to the MSM. the irresistible SEX HOOKS, which are like crack to the MSM:

that guck/gann is apparently, a male escort would be CRACK to the MSM (if it were anyone else).
that guck/gann markets himself using Sado Masocistic language should be CRACK to the MSM
that guck/gann posted photos of himself URINATING should be CRACK to the MSM
that guck/gann was doing this WHILE in the WHITE HOUSE should be CRACK to the MSM

so, what's going on here?

[HereSince1628]

13. Personally, I'd like Gannongate to be the breaching of the dam

I think one of the most dangerous practices of Bush/Rove is their attempt to destroy the independence of the press and to completely control the information stream going to the voters.

An informed electorate requires an independently functioning press. That isn't to say that media can't lean. Historically newspapers have traditions of leaning and leaning hard. BUT, there were OPPOSING points of view still printed.

The Bush/Rove administration has introduced us to the nightmare world of "One People, One News, One Party, One Nation" The attempt (apparently almost completely successful) to contol the media attacks the foundation of democracy.

Now I know that to lead the nation into this story, we just can't scream get out the tin-foil!!! Bush/Rove are taking over the Nation! You have to ease in use, the angle of security breaches, faulty practices, etc. in the hope of uncovering the political/propaganda operation that got Guckert access.

In the end if we fail to get Roverer or one of his operatives caught and discredited, we may still win by getting Roverer to go to ground for a time, thus enabling the re-emergence of a more independent if not opposition media.

[Norquist Nemesis]

16. I think I agree with you!

It's not the sexcapades of Guckert/Gannon. This is tertiary to the primary issues of national security and propaganda. JG is a crack into the network of the 'conservative message' promoted by Republicans. Bush has been able to take advantage of it, and embraces it in treasonous fashion.

Limbaugh over in Afghanistan spewing live to the troops with direct blessing and approval of the US Government? The propaganda network is the real story.

[uppityperson]

18. Sex is the hook. They'll pay attention to the real story after hooked.

[Gabi Hayes]

19. what about the Daschle angle? Gannon used fake identities

to help unseat him

have you seen this?

http://nashuaadvocate.blogspot.com/
the above, thanks to somebody here

long, well-cited story of just what deeply involved PUG OP this guy is, and NOBODY is talking about it, even Eric Boehlert, who I heard for an hour yesterday.

this one, too, which I stumbled upon before finding the above. It's mostly a rehash of the advocate article
http://www.soundbitten.com/archives/week_2005_02_20.html#000605

the feb 23 entry:

The Nashua Advocate reports that people knew Gannon was using an assumed identity as far back as 2003. The entire story is enlightening, but if you're a Mary Rosh fan, pay special note to the behavior described in this passage:

"According to Dan Pfeiffer, former spokesman for Tom Daschle--the U.S. Senate Minority Leader until his defeat in the 2004 general election--Jeff Gannon's use of assumed identities was information available to the media as far back as the summer of 2003. It was then, more than a year and a half ago, that Pfeiffer received an e-mail from someone claiming to be a citizen of South Dakota, wanting to know the Daschle campaign's reaction to a story by "Jeff Gannon." The concerned "citizen of South Dakota" turned out to be Gannon himself, as the Daschle campaign quickly uncovered by tracking the e-mail account from which the query had been sent, '[e-mail].'"


So it turns out that writing for the American Enterprise Institute isn't the only thing that Jim "Jeff Gannon" Guckert and John "Mary Rosh" Lott have in common.

Now, check out this transcript from a South Dakota talk radio show called "Argus on the Air" that aired on radio station KELO June 18th, 2003. Note the caller's name. Note the very Gannon-like syntax of the non-question question. Note that on June 18th, the only "national news" reporting on the Daschle/Kranz story was coming from Gannon himself. Note also that "Argus on the Air" streams it show on the Web, and that Gannon used to capture the stream and post it on his website Jeffgannon.com.

OK, now read this excerpt:

Welcome back to Argus on Air here at KELO AM News Talk 1320. My name is Greg Belfrage, and every Wednesday afternoon Randall Beck, the executive editor of the Sioux Falls Argus Leader, is here. It’s starting this week for a full hour. I appreciate that. Again, this portion of the program brought to you by Flying J Country Market Restaurant, one block west of J&L Harley on Highway 38. Enjoy the lunch buffet Monday through Saturday, 11:00 until 4:00, just $7.59. And, uh, we'll get to your phone calls. We've already got lines stacked up here. Let’s start to get to your calls. Good afternoon, Jim, you're on Argus on Air with Randall Beck of the Argus Leader.

Jim: Thank you, Greg. I wanted to ask Randall about some of these reports on national news lately. I generally like Beck's position on transparency and disclosure, but it seems that the Argus has not been disclosing the past political affiliations of its main political reporter, Dave Kranz, who always writes very slanted, pro-Democratic stories, and I think it’s time for Beck to come clean and explain to the people and to the readers of the Argus where Kranz's sympathies really lie and how they may affect the reporting of the Argus. It’s time for some answers, Mr. Beck, and I think you should stop dodging these questions and answer them openly





lots of embedded links

[drm604]

20. I think the whole gay prostitute thing

is actually an important part of the story. The argument the left is making (or at least should be making) is that the man is a political operative working for Republican activists and possibly even the government itself. In other words, a shill. It's one more piece of the whole argument that the media is being manipulated.

The right is trying to deny this by arguing that he's a legitimate journalist who simply holds strong political beliefs and that he shouldn't be attacked based on those beliefs.

The problem with that is that he has frequently expressed anti-gay sentiments in his articles and has claimed to be a good Christian, etc. This is completely inconsistent with working as a gay escort, and he was at least advertising those services during at least part of the time he's been working as a "journalist".

This inconsistency is strong evidence that the beliefs he's been expressing are not sincere, and that is evidence that he's simply saying what someone else wants him to say.

Also, if he's willing to prostitute his body then he's probably also willing to prostitute his words and beliefs.

[satya]

22. Valerie Plame. Joe Wilson. Lather, rinse, repeat.

So, yes the gay website angle helps the neocons, if the media coverage focuses on that and ignores the real story.

[Beer Snob-50]

23. this is the real story

rw shill doing the bidding of an increasingly arrogant administration.

[satya]

24. That's a problem, too, but JimmyJeff is a minor player in that game.

Corporate media, the courts, a rubber-stamp Congress, and the sheeple themselves are all marching in lockstep to do what Fearless Leader tells them to do.

[Vinca]

26. Since MSM doesn't seem to be interested in covering serious issues

(failed White House security), I guess we all thought they'd latch onto it if the smarmy part of the story was stressed. I doubt anyone cares that Gannon is gay, other than it's funny because of the "high moral values"/gay marriage-civil union "ixnay" repeated ad nauseum by the Republicans. I don't really care if he's a prostitute. I DO care he's a faux journalist who seems to have been a plant for the purpose of dishing the party line and that doesn't equal "free" press.

[markmalcom]

31. ...You "doubt that anyone cares if he's gay"?...a "gay prostitute"?

...in the homophobic,Family Values world of the Repugs?!...you must be kidding!!...The fact that this story is receiving so LITTLE press, is proof-positive, IMO, that the media is OWNED.

[Vinca]

33. Democrats don't care if he's gay - Republicans are beside themselves

(and, for the most part, staying silent and hoping it will pass) which, of course, makes it worthy of conversation at every turn.

[HR_Pufnstuf]

30. Cute Eberle quote

"Says its founder: "A core of people out there believe the so-called mainstream media is corrupt." The key to his success, Eberle says, is maintaining professional standards, because the Web attracts a lot of blowhards: "Just because you're on the Web doesn't make you credible."

Bobby Eberle, 7-18-4

http://www.usaweekend.com/04_issues/040718/040718election.html

[Al-CIAda]

32. Inform your conservative Christian brothers/sisters-

Inform your conservative Christian brothers/sisters. They have a right to know.

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