I was having a look-see over at freeperland, and couldn't believe how

[Boswells_Johnson]

bad things are. Those guys are sad. I say that with no bitterness. They're just sad.

I wanted to see how they were reacting to Canada not joining the BMD system. Some choice comments include:

"actually, I kinda like the idea of the debris from the missles landing on Canada......" and "They have become 'Al Qanada,'"



And then freepers wonder why nobody likes 'em:)

[wtmusic]

1. They come down hard on DU

for not allowing dissenting viewpoints...when I first got here, I thought they had a point. After you read 50-100 of their "dissenting viewpoints", however, you realize that almost without exception they are based on very poor understanding and limited knowledge of the subject.

[pauliedangerously]

2. Something I've wondered about FR...

I wonder how many people there are just spinners. There are very few postings with more than 40-50 words; I've only read about fifty threads, though, maybe there's an in-depth, intelligent board in there that I've missed. DU is my website of preference because of the diversity and exchange of ideas--even though I don't agree with many of them.

What really strikes me about FR, though, is that idealogies aside, the Freepers have pretty much the same attitude DUers have towards our government and the MSM...the only difference is that we align ourselves with two distictly different sets of popular figures.

If we could strip away the religious labels, the gender labels, the sexual preference labels, the metro/retro labels, etc., I think we would find that we all have quite a bit in common.

As long as this deep artificial division exists between us Americans, the power elite will continue to dominate us.

We DUers can get pretty vicious with one another. Maybe we should practice being a little more civil with one another; I have grown up a lot in the last year or so here. I used to pick fights with Christians, but I have refrained from that. In fact, I don't even bother with the agnostic/skeptic boards anymore, even though I am an atheist.

What's more important than anyhting right now is finding common ground with as many American citizens as possible. We Americans have been successfully divided and we are being conquered. Can we reunite?

[liberalhistorian]

3. That's a good question and an

interesting post and I'd like to think we would, indeed, find far more common ground with those who disagree with us than we might think. I think it's very possible, if we really listen to them without a condescending, superior attitude that we always know best and we're always right.

We can't just use the excuse that "they don't listen to us, so the hell with them", anymore, because they're saying the same things about us. So, we're going to have to bridge this divide somehow and believe it or not there are people on the other side who want to do the same thing.

[ConcernedDemocrat]

4. Freepers are twisted fools

[liberalhistorian]

5. Maybe they're thinking the same

about us, in fact, we know they do. So there has to be a way to get past that and find some common ground. If we don't do that, the country as a whole is going to be in serious trouble with this continued sharp divide.

[No Exit]

11. Oh, they're thinking the same about us, all right.

It only remains to be seen if, were you to be dragged off to Guantanamo for speaking out against the fraud Bush regime, they would be there to stone you along the way.

I'm afraid I don't have much faith in a stone-free journey!

[ThorsHammer]

13. Agreed; Pat Buchanan w/r/t Iraq is another example

Most people here disagree with most of what he has to say, but agree with his points on Iraq and US foreign policy. The same goes for many fiscal conservatives who don't like GWB's deficits.

[Mz Pip]

6. I seriously suspect

that there are plenty on both sides who have no interest in uniting on any common ground. Admitting that there is any common ground is like losing a battle.

The far left and the far right have a lot in common - a totalitarian approach to a political ideology where stepping outside that box is suspect. These people fan the flames of division.

Jon Stewart had it right when he said that this shrieking political theater is hurting America and it needs to stop. Fat chance it will. THere are too many people in positions of power who use that tactic to tear down the opposition because it works. Why stop doing something when it works?

Mz Pip
:dem:

[flygal]

7. That's very true

A couple of years ago my freeper uncle and my "blessed liberal" dad were talking and I was waiting for sparks to fly, but they talked about environment - check, they both agreed on basic principals; beaurocracy - too much to be effective in many instances; and some other issues I don't remember b/c I was still in awe that it didn't get ugly.

Now my dad has gotten into it with other freeper who just see black and white over some things. But I think you're right - we need to find common ground and I think this war in Iraq will soon bring freepers more to the middle on so many issues, not to mention how raping the social services will leave so many communities hurting.

[No Exit]

12. Your civility is to be applauded,

but you will never be able to convince such people to find common ground with the likes of us.

Unless, of course, we all began worshipping George W. Bush.

I honestly believe that those people would laugh and dance around as you were dragged off to a concentration camp by this regime (for, say, some sin such as being against the war)--and then they'd all grow really wide-eyed and fearful when the regime turned around and started handcuffing THEM next.

[No Exit]

8. All about freeptard follies

http://www.clownposse.org/forum/news.asp?whichpage=-1&news_id=2758&REPLY_ID=26885

The above is from a bizarre website which consists of various wingnuts and freaks o' nature who've been banned from freerepublic. About the only thing more ridiculous than a Stepford-Bushie freeptard is a locked-out, banned, freeptard.

This particular link I posted b/c it shows a photo of freeptard "BobJ" giving an award to... chickenhawk Swifty Liar and former Nixon propaganda-person John O'Neill.

The website clownposse.org, while basically a parasitic site of freerepublic (how pathetic is THAT??), contains a lot of freeptard insider talk. Thus it is sometimes a useful resource for those who want to know what propaganda, smear-jobs, and falsehoods the freeptards are currently putting out in service to their demented master *.

[Virginian]

9. They seem to have an organization

The posts mentioned a chapter. Do they actually meet face to face? Do they get together to work on their conspiracies against America?

[No Exit]

10. Who? Freeptards?

Yes, they have get-togethers. Not sure, but I think that photo of BobJ giving the award to Liar O'Neill is from the "Freeper Inaugural Ball" of this past January.

Then there's the FRN, which is apparently affiliated with freerepublic. There's lots of really good info on that lately, here on DU--including the real names of some of the very politically active freeptards.

This really is more than idle gossip: the more one digs, the more one realizes that the entire "Swift Boat" campaign owed a LOT to the freeptard network. It was a fraud, from beginning to end. And now that same group has been assigned the task of discrediting AARP, because AARP didn't lie down to Bush's plan to end Social Security.

If these people are exposed to the world as the bought-and-paid-for frauds that they are, we could hope that their hatchet jobs will fall flat.

[Boswells_Johnson]

14. Geeze, I checked that site out. That's some pretty weird stuff.

Every time I read something written by a freeper, I get a sinking feeling. Nothing can be said, or shown, that could possibly change their minds.