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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:01 PM
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Bush doesn't want Americans tortured by Saddam in 1991 to be compensated
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 03:31 PM by Eric J in MN
Some Americans who were soldiers during the first Gulf War were tortured by Saddam Hussein's regime. They are seeking compensation in court.

Specifically, 17 ex-POWs and 37 of their family members are seeking compensation.

George W. Bush is trying to prevent them from getting compensated.

Money paid out to ex-POWs from Iraq would be money George W. Bush and his friends would no longer control.

From the Los Angeles Times ("White House Turns Tables on Former American POWs: Gulf War pilots tortured by Iraqis fight the Bush administration in trying to collect compensation" by David G. Savage, Feb. 15, 2005):
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-na-pow15feb15,1,4310297.story


The latest chapter in the legal history of torture is being written by American pilots who were beaten and abused by Iraqis during the 1991 Persian Gulf War. And it has taken a strange twist.

The Bush administration is fighting the former prisoners of war in court, trying to prevent them from collecting nearly $1 billion from Iraq that a federal judge awarded them as compensation for their torture at the hands of Saddam Hussein's regime.


Many of the pilots were tortured in the same Iraqi prison, Abu Ghraib, where American soldiers abused Iraqis 15 months ago..."It seems so strange to have our own country fighting us on this," said retired Air Force Col. David W. Eberly, the senior officer among the former POWs.

The case, now being appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, tests whether "state sponsors of terrorism" can be sued in the U.S. courts for torture, murder or hostage-taking. The court is expected to decide in the next two months whether to hear the appeal...On July 21, 2003, two weeks after the Gulf War POWs won their court case in U.S. District Court, the Bush administration intervened to argue that their claims should be dismissed.

"No amount of money can truly compensate these brave men and women for the suffering that they went through at the hands of this very brutal regime and at the hands of Saddam Hussein," White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan told reporters when asked about the case in November 2003. Government lawyers have insisted, literally, on "no amount of money" going to the Gulf War POWs.


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http://www.moveleft.com/moveleft_essay_2005_02_21_greed_gone_wild_bush_wants_to_prevent_american_pows_who_were_tortured_by_saddam_regime.asp
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:03 PM
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1. K.O. reported on this last week.
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 03:04 PM by jojo54
F__king neocon.

I mean * not K.O.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:04 PM
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2. Doesn't that make you proud? Now the Iraqis are the good guys.
This is totally unbelievable. Our government it battling OUR SOLDIERS in court. Unfuckingbelievable. That's a billion more for Halliburton.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:34 PM
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7. They sure do love
to support the troops don't they? Why do they hate Amerika?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:05 PM
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3. The Brotherhood of Torturers
I understand it would set a bad precedent to compensate the victims of torture, given the Empirer is now practicing torture almost daily, I would guess.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:08 PM
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4. Then why is our government paying
compensation to Abu Ghraib victims of the torture they suffered under our soldiers?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:30 PM
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5. Are they? Got a link? What about the victims of Guantanamo Torture?
What about those we shipped off to torture-friendly nations to get the "special treatment" they couldn't get, even at Guanatanamo (which is a scary thought indeed)?

Or is this the typical Bushevik maneuver of making promises, then ignoring them when the spotlight dims? Or the typical Bushevik maneuver of cynically responding onl to what they got caught at, not giving a shit about the Systemic Approval of Torture because they are the ones who approved it.

Even IF the Imperial Family is paying victims of Abu Ghraib torture (and I need to see a credible link or two before I'd buy THAT), are we still torturing as a policy?

Yep, at least according to the Red Cross, Amnesty Int'l and any number of sources.

Poor Busheviks, so saddled by some of the things they have to do in order to pretend to be Rulers of a Free Nation.

Got that link?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 12:44 AM
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8. In the LA Times article linked above, Rumseld says we
should compensate the Iraqi victims of the US at Abu Ghraib, but that doesn't mean the US ever paid any such compensation.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 03:33 PM
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6. Just because Donald Rumsfeld said that the torture victims of the US
at Abu Ghraib should be compensated doesn't mean they actually were compensated.
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omulcol Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 01:45 AM
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9. Because they're civilians ?
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