What are Chemtrails?

[elehhhhna]

Please respond in a CHemtrails for Dummies style. Plain english.

Thanks.

[Dookus]

1. They are the contrails from planes....

but some people believe they are a coordinated effort to spray the atmosphere with chemicals, either for climate control purposes or mind-control of the population. They're not quite sure.

[Stop_the_War]

2. This is what they look like:

I see these alot.

[postulater]

10. They are really

the Scottish Saltire flag drawn in our skies to mock us, like the Scots do when they flip up their kilts and show off the crown jewels.

I wonder what they'd think if we drew the stars and stripes in the skies above the Scottish Highlands. The stripes would be easy. But the 50 stars? :silly:

[muriel_volestrangler]

12. Ironically, this IS the origin of the Scottish Saltire

In 832 AD, a Pictish army under King Angus MacFergus, High King of Alba, along with a force of Scots under Eochaidh, King of Dalriada (and grandfather of Kenneth MacAlpin), was battling a Northumbrian force in Lothian for control of that region. The night before battle, Saint Andrew reportedly appeared to Angus in a vision, and on the field of battle the next day, a saltire, or x-shaped cross, similar to the one that Saint Andrew was crucified on, appeared in the sky, encouraging the Picts and Scots in their fight and causing the Northumbrians to flee the field, after their leader, Athelstan, was killed. The site of the battle was and still is known as Athelstanford, or “the ford of Athelstan”. The colours of the flag are supposed to represent the white of clouds and the azure colour of the sky.

http://www.scotshistoryonline.co.uk/saltire/saltire.html

See? Chemtrails are over 1000 years old! That's how powerful they are!

[Quakerfriend]

3. And, some believe they are spreading biological

agents, as an experiment on the population.

I recently thought of chem tails when I heard about the sickness (with symptoms of Skin crawling)now occurring in Fla, TX, and another state.

There are a lot of websites on this, including pictures some citizens have taken demonstrating that something is intentionally being sprayed from the planes.

[Maddy McCall]

4. Utter bullshit.

Sorry, but that's just the way I see it.

[queeg]

5. File with perpetual motion

same people channeling 3000 year old spirits, seeing UFOs and seeking money for 400mpg water run cars.

[LynnTheDem]

6. Go read bush's Cliff Notes

rotflmao!!!

[Must_B_Free]

7. Pressure and tempature differences in air patterns

cause ripple effects in the coulds like waves on water.
Some people try to concoct fantasies that they are part of some secret technologies, but any fool who knows nature knows what a "mackeral sky" is...

[karlrschneider]

8. Frozen combustion products. The tinfoilers think they are poisonous,

mind-control drugs, or other ridiculous speculations...
:eyes:

[OneBlueSky]

9. here's some resources you can check out . . .

Chemtrails 101
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Chemtrail_101.html

Anomalies Unlimited - Chemtrails
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Chemtrails.html

Educate Yourself - Chemtrails
http://educate-yourself.org/ct/

Aerosol Operation Crimes and Coverup
http://www.carnicom.com/

Chemtrails Data Page
http://www.rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html

Chemtrail Hall of Shame - Documenting a Global Non-Event
http://www.lightwatcher.com/chemtrails/hos.html

Chemtrails Over America
http://home1.gte.net/quakker/documents/chemtrails_over_america.htm#coa

Chemtrails - Spraying In Our Sky
http://www.holmestead.ca/chemtrails/chemtrails.html

Barium Blues
http://www.bariumblues.com/

Stop Chemtrails
http://www.stop-chemtrails.com/

Top Chemtrails Sites
http://www.topsitelists.com/bestsites/chemtrails/

[DistantWind88]

19. "Chemtrail sites for Whackos"

[OneBlueSky]

28. whatever . . . n/t

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[bobthedrummer]

11. Whatever they are they are diminishing the amount of sunlight in the day.

They are darkening things quite a bit. But we observe chemtrails at night too up here in Green Bay, Wisconsin. It may have to do with global climate change, whatever chemtrails are they've been around since the 1990's.

[Ladyhawk]

30. They've been around as long as I can remember. n/t

[Zhade]

13. A source of inexplicably angry denouncements of any who question them.

I just don't get the anger aimed at those who wonder what they are. It's almost like a child angrily denying something they don't want to be true, with no knowledge one way or the other.

:shrug:

[Pepperbelly]

18. very true ... worse than robots sometimes. nt

[WoodrowFan]

22. more like

a parent tired of hearing the kid old enough to know better insist every day that there's a monster in the closet after he just saw the closet was empty.

[seemslikeadream]

14. Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House)

You must go here first and look down the page a bit.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/L?c107:./list/c107h.lst:2901
Click on this
2975 . Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House)



Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House)

HR 2977 IH


107th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 2977
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

October 2, 2001
Mr. KUCINICH introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Science, and in addition to the Committees on Armed Services, and International Relations, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned



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A BILL
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Space Preservation Act of 2001'.

SEC. 2. REAFFIRMATION OF POLICY ON THE PRESERVATION OF PEACE IN SPACE.

Congress reaffirms the policy expressed in section 102(a) of the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958 (42 U.S.C. 2451(a)), stating that it `is the policy of the United States that activities in space should be devoted to peaceful purposes for the benefit of all mankind.'.

SEC. 3. PERMANENT BAN ON BASING OF WEAPONS IN SPACE.

The President shall--

(1) implement a permanent ban on space-based weapons of the United States and remove from space any existing space-based weapons of the United States; and

(2) immediately order the permanent termination of research and development, testing, manufacturing, production, and deployment of all space-based weapons of the United States and their components.

SEC. 4. WORLD AGREEMENT BANNING SPACE-BASED WEAPONS.

The President shall direct the United States representatives to the United Nations and other international organizations to immediately work toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing a world agreement banning space-based weapons.

SEC. 5. REPORT.

The President shall submit to Congress not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and every 90 days thereafter, a report on--

(1) the implementation of the permanent ban on space-based weapons required by section 3; and

(2) progress toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing the agreement described in section 4.

SEC. 6. NON SPACE-BASED WEAPONS ACTIVITIES.

Nothing in this Act may be construed as prohibiting the use of funds for--

(1) space exploration;

(2) space research and development;

(3) testing, manufacturing, or production that is not related to space-based weapons or systems; or

(4) civil, commercial, or defense activities (including communications, navigation, surveillance, reconnaissance, early warning, or remote sensing) that are not related to space-based weapons or systems.

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:

(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.

(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:

(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--

(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;

(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;

(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or

(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.

(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--

(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);

(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or

(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.

(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--

(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;

(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;

(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;

(v) laser weapons systems;

(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and

(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.

(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.

and here's REP Kucinich link
http://wwws.house.gov/search97cgi/s97_cgi?action=View&VdkVgwKey=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ehouse%2Egov%2Fkucinich%2Fpress%2Fpr010726a%2Ehtm&DocOffset=1&DocsFound=1&QueryZip=%60Space+Preservation+Act+of+2001%27%2E&SourceQueryZip=&Collection=comms&Collection=members&Collection=other&Collection=coxreport&ViewTemplate=memberview%2Ehts&

[SeveneightyWhoa]

15. The silliest conspiracy theory of all.

That's what they are.

You don't get much more idiotic than this, and it saddens me that people who happen to share my political point of view also believe in this stupidity. I'd rather become a right-wing Bush-hugger than believe that airplane condensation clouds (or whatever they scientifically are) are actually the government spraying -- in full view -- chemicals on everybody (including, ahem, the people within the government themselves).

"Chemtrails" are one of the worst cases of paranoia/illegit conspiratorialism/government distrust one can come up with.

[Dookus]

17. Also

imagine the number of people involved. I've seen stats that show many THOUSANDS of chemtrail flights per day. That's thousands of pilots. Thousands of people involved in creating the planes and their dispersal mechanisms. Thousands of people involved in maintaining (and evidently hiding) the planes when on the ground, thousands needed to create the chemicals and transport them to the planes and load them.

Many scientists, climatologists, ecologists, psychiatrists (depending on what the purpose of the chemtrails are) to create, monitor and evaluate the results.

We're to believe thousands and thousands of people are involved in this conspiracy, yet manage to keep it ultra-secret.

[Steven Flow]

16. Good links for info...

http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=116&pst=60200&archival=

[Liberal In Texas]

20. Here you are. From a site about weather war...

http://www.weatherwars.info/chemtrails.htm

[WoodrowFan]

21. eeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

it's CLOUDS!! run for your lives! ! water condensation!!!!!

[WoodrowFan]

23. try this site

very good info here..

http://www.nmsr.org/chemtrls.htm

[Liberal In Texas]

24. These days, with the creeps in charge now, who knows? n/t

[Baclava]

25. The real answer is....

Chemtrails are really the breeding grounds of RODS



http://www.roswellrods.com/pre.html

[seemslikeadream]

26. “Prevention of Outer Space Arms Race"

Towards the end of 2000, the United Nations General Assembly had a vote on a resolution called the “Prevention of Outer Space Arms Race.” It was adopted by a recorded vote of 163 in favor to none against, with 3 abstentions. The three that abstained were the Federated States of Micronesia, Israel and the United States of America. (You can see the details from a U.N. press release, together with a list of countries that voted, were absent and so on.)

The United Nations recently reiterated concerns about the militarization of space and not being used for peaceful purposes in a U.N. General Assembly session:

The view was expressed that the Committee had not been fulfilling the mandate given to it by the General Assembly in recommending ways and means of maintaining outer space for peaceful purposes. That delegation expressed the view that the Committee should address itself to that issue, since military activities in outer space were seriously affecting international cooperation in the exploration and peaceful uses of outer space.

...

Some delegations expressed the view that a greater risk of the introduction of weapons into outer space and the adoption of a concept of a use of force in outer space would undermine the basis for and the very logic of developing nonproliferation mechanisms and of the whole system of international security.

... The view was expressed that an international agreement should be concluded to prohibit the deployment of weapons in outer space.


http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2000/20001120.ga9829.doc.html


Most leaders of the world are on record wanting to ban space-based weapons. On April 12, 2001, U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan announced his support of a ban on space-based weapons. The Secretary General stated that the international community recognized early that a legal regime for outer space was needed to prevent space from becoming another arena of military confrontation. On November 29, 2001, the U.N. General Assembly approved by a 156-0 vote the basis for a treaty establishing a permanent ban on space-based weapons (Resolution 56/535), by stating the Member Nations were "convinced that further measures should be examined in the search for effective and verifiable bilateral and multilateral agreements in order to prevent an arms race in outer space, including the weaponization of outer space." On November 20, 2000, a similar U.N. General Assembly resolution to prevent an arms race in space (Resolution 55/32) was approved where the final adopting vote was 163-0.

[DARE to HOPE]

27. Wish it weren't so, but it is...

Meigs Field is closed, the air field Jesse Jr wants to build in the cornfields is not yet, the Gary Airport is busy, but not like this, and O'Hare is too far north. These are NOT commercial planes.

Our daily walks in the set aside Forest Preserve are absolutely RUINED by these flights! Right over the deer, all the wetlands behind the Priory, teaming with frogs, even heron, as well as ducks, geese, all sorts of wonders--WAY HIGH UP, back and forth, back and forth, like a woven pot holder in the sky, enveloped with only God knows what as we breathe deeply of the (health building) air.

And now this Morgellon skin disease, reported in Florida, California and Texas, may be connected with polymers floating down upon our heads. Hey, we know they are knowingly poisoning our own young soldiers in Iraq with DU. WHY NOT the rest of us? (See Bush history with Eugenics movement.)

And there it is, right in the Congressional Record, in addition to all the scientists all over this country measuring, decifering the vile chemicals being thrown on our very own population!!

God save us from these madmen!

[Dookus]

29. In the Congressional Record?

If somebody introduces a bill outlawing the shooting of unicorns, is that proof unicorns exist?

[name not needed]

31. A government program designed to distract us from

the mind control machines.