When did the Iraqis converge on the Saudi border?

[CatWoman]

:shrug:

I watched "The House of Saud" last night on PBS.

Bush 1 used this justification in order to send 250,000 troops to Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War.

But this is the first I've heard about it.

[papau]

1. Never happened - Bush 41 claimed it happened - later Sat photos showed

that it never happened (later meaning same point in time but released a few years after the war).

But a Bush lie is not important to the media.

[bullimiami]

3. there were forged sat photos to show it

later the originals turned up and proved it a fabrication.

[CatWoman]

6. KeriIST!!!!!

And Jr. follows the mo.

This completely sucks.

I can't believe the Saudis are still friends with them.

[cthrumatrix]

11. it was a scam....received $50B from Saudi for that war.... Mr Baker

was the negotiator

[ieoeja]

2. Just prior to the Gulf War

It was in the news at the time. But then the "tossing babies out of incubators" nonsense got started. Also, the Iraqis pulled back right away.

[RaleighNCDUer]

4. I always wondered how the Iraqi army could be massed on the

border and heavily dug in, in defensive positions, at the same time.

[bullimiami]

5. the iraqis were never massed and the incubator was a fabrication

[DulceDecorum]

7. Google HIGHWAY OF DEATH

to see what happened when
the Iraqi soldiers who were participating in a wargame with Stormin' Norman
retreated from Kuwait.

Kuwait had promised to help out monetarily with the Iran-Iraq war if Iraq made sure that Kuwait was not attacked by Iran.
When Iraq was not looking, Kuwait began underground slant drilling across the border into Iraqi oilfields.
Iraq said STOPPIT and asked about the war funds. Kuwait said that it did not give a flying EFF for the Iraqi soldiers killed in the Iran-Iraq war, and that if Saddam felt so badly for the widows he should send them to Kuwait to spread their legs and the Kuwaiti men would make sure to leave some money on the nightstand.
So Saddam called up the US Ambassador, April Glaspie and said that he wanted to go kick some Kuwaiti ass but he didn't want to upset the US. April said that the US would not interfere with the matter and did Saddam want to play some wargames and here is the script, please follow it exactly.

And that, in a nutshell is how Saddam was tricked into getting his army wiped out by the US Air Force.

[DulceDecorum]

8. Also,

if you talk to soldiers who were in the last few conflicts, the ones who went to Vietnam will tell you they were in Vietnam. The ones who went to Somalia will tell you they were in Somalia. And the ones who fought against Saddam will tell you they went to Saudi.

And many of them remained there. In Saudi.
Which is why Osama and the other other Saudis got upset about the HUGE deficits that Saudi Arabia was running even tough it was selling off oil and even desert sand for construction as fast as it could. Then Prince Bandar told Boy George that enough was enough and the Saudis crashed the fed by withdrawing all their money from the NYSE. Within days they were accused of masterminding 911 and now there are lawsuits whereby certain US companies are trying to own the whole damn country of Saudi Arabia because they have seven living "hijackers" that were framed for 911 and the US is flat broke and needs to choke cash out of somewhere and now more than ever that occupation of Iraq has proved to be such a bust.

[Columbia]

10. Has there ever been conclusive proof of alleged Kuwaiti slant-drilling?

[JHB]

13. That's a bit TOO MUCH of a nutshell...

The Bushes are liars, but that's no reason to portray Saddam like he was an innocent in the matter. To the extent he intimated he was interested in "kicking some Kuwaiti ass", some people took that to mean he intended to raid & wreck the slant-dling operations that were siphoning off oil from under Iraq, not taking over the country entirely.

[DulceDecorum]

17. Satellite pictures did not show any Iraqi army

lined up to invade Kuwait. By that time Saudi Arabia had intervened and broken the fight up and both Kuwait and Iraq had calmed down and war had been averted.
Then Stormin' Norman entered, stage right.

[JHB]

18. Are you saying Saddam never had his army attack Kuwait?

The photos showed how bogus Bush's story that the Iraqi army was massed to push into Saudi Arabia. Do you have these countries confused above, or are you implying Iraq never took over Kuwait?

Please clarify what you are talking about.

The "highway of death" came later, when the retreating Iraqi army was on the only road back to Iraq.

[Igel]

15. And, alas, much of the "highway of death" talk is also

a fabrication.

Some soldiers were killed. But not as many as reported. Many had abandoned their vehicles and high-tailed it out of there.

[DulceDecorum]

16. And the Iraqi soldiers outran the bombs

that were being dropped on the desert sands that they were running through?
Even a Kenyan cannot manage that!!

(The above photo is of the) incinerated body of an Iraqi soldier on the “Highway of Death”, a name the press has given to the road from Mutlaa, Kuwait, to Basra, Iraq. U.S. planes immobilized the convoy by disabling vehicles at its front and rear, then bombing and strafing the resulting traffic jam for hours. More than 2,000 vehicles and tens of thousands of charred and dismembered bodies littered the sixty miles of highway.
The clear rapid incineration of the human being suggests the use of napalm, phosphorus, or other incendiary bombs. These are anti-personnel weapons outlawed under the 1977 Geneva Protocols. This massive attack occurred after Saddam Hussein announced a complete troop withdrawal from Kuwait in compliance with UN Resolution 660.
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/iraqgenocide/HighwayofDeath.html

I have been told that the Al-Amariya Bomb Shelter
contained women and children who were DELIBERATELY incinerated.
http://www.ithaca.edu/ithacan/articles/0302/20/news/2stephens_see.htm
http://www.dailyiowan.com/news/2003/02/17/Nation/Iraqis.Remember.Shelter.Attack-371440.shtml
http://www.thenausea.com/elements/usa/Amariya/usa-doc1.html
What have you heard?

Someone asked for proof of the slant drilling.
I hope this will suffice.

Since slant drilling is very difficult to trace for outsiders of the operation, the technique has frequently been used to steal oil resources from neighbouring oil fields. Several cases are known, the one with the most spectacular consequences being slant drilling performed by Kuwait. This was one of the reasons given by Iraq for invading that country in 1991 (see Gulf War).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slant_drilling

In 1977, US National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski met with Saddam Hussein, the Emir of Kuwait, and a Saudi representative, and proposed that Iraq invade Iran, seizing the Khuzestan oil fields. In 1982, US FBI chief William Webster met with the Emir of Kuwait and plotted the seizure of Iraqi oil fields and the slant-drilling with which Kuwait and western oil companies stole $14 billion worth of Iraqi oil.
http://www.rmbowman.com/Bowman2000/iraq.htm

The whole dispute started because Kuwait was slant-drilling. Using equipment bought from National Security Council chief Brent Scowcroft's old company, Kuwait was pumping out some $14-billion worth of oil from underneath Iraqi territory. Even the territory they were drilling from had originally been Iraq's. Slant-drilling is enough to get you shot in Texas, and it's certainly enough to start a war in the Mideast.
Even so, this dispute could have been negotiated. But it's hard to avoid a war when what you're actually doing is trying to provoke a war.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA%20Hits/Iraq_CIAHits.html

Even before the first day of the Persian Gulf crisis George Bush and the Pentagon wanted to wage war against Iraq.
http://www.deoxy.org/wc/wc-consp.htm

[sabra]

9. Watched it too...

Didn't Bush make the Saudi's pay billions of dollars for our "protection" ?

[CatWoman]

12. yup

as I said before, I can't believe they refer to the Bush's as "friends".

With friends like that.............

[sabra]

14. It also had Baker admitting that he ripped them off!