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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:18 AM
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Big fuckin' Cross at the Crossroads

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tips/getAttraction.php3?tip_AttractionNo==4116

Anybody seen this monstrosity? I drove by it yesterday on day four of my cross country trek from Seattle to D.C. It is at the crossroads of I-70 and I-57 in Illinois. It completely sickened me. I also wandered into the local BP gas station which is apparently "big fuckin' cross headquarters" they had a bunch of souvenirs with the cross on it and I told the guy behind the counter that that cross was the scariest thing that I had ever seen in my life. Oh yeah on a related note, moral values my ass! The I-70 corridor from around Hayes, Kansas to Columbus, Ohio has more porno shops than I have ever seen in my life, so "red staters" you can take your "moral values" and shove them up your ass!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:22 AM
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1. come on down to the panhandle of texas. we have one too
havent been out to see it, on one of the hiways. yeehaw

oh oh and that is where they had their book burning of arry potter books one winter morning. the kids and i watching news before getting ready for school. winter so was dark. the fire roared. throwing the books in. scared the shit out of my brilliant, sensitive then 7 year old in all the messages in site and words. he associated it with the salem witch hunt and the nazi book burning, in his own back yard
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 12:36 PM
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24. The Panhandle cross is just east of Amarillo
on good old I-40.

In your face.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 12:39 PM
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26. i thought it was I-40 must be east of amarillo
i go west a lot. am in amarillo. anyway, thanks. i see you have east

i head to new mexico and colorado a lot. no need to hit oklahoma.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 12:56 PM
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28. Just outside of Groom
I see that everytime I drive from OK to CO, which is fairly often. I've actually stopped by for the kitsch of it all, but that thing is huge. You can see it for miles. (You have no choice but to see it for miles.)
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:23 AM
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2. Those things are all over the south
The less they practice Christianity, the more eyesores they want to erect, I guess.

By the way, have you seen the "half a Jesus?" http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/OHMONjesus.html

I guess when you live in areas with sky high rates of alcoholism, divorce, unwed pregnancy, and child abuse that you have to do other things to pretend how religious and moral you are.
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:26 AM
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5. That picture doesn't do the cross justice
It is huge, so huge that I was taken aback by it.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:37 AM
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11. No, it doesn't
This thing is quite literally a monstrosity.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:48 AM
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18. There was a better picture of the 'touchdown Jesus' in the
Election forum a couple of months ago, That one doesn't do it justice.

I commented that if it was around here, I'd paint it like an NFL Ref.

-Hoot
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 01:01 PM
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29. I have NEVER seen one here in the South! Where are they all?
It looks to me like it's a midwest thing, Illinois, Ohio, Colorado, Oklahoma...

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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:24 AM
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3. Now all they need is to crucify the Jolly Green Giant...
...and it would be complete!
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:27 AM
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6. Well, he DOES have a kinda Eye-Rakki look about him...
and all he ever says is Ho HO Ho. Probably doesn't even speak Murkin.:evilgrin:
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:25 AM
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I pass an attempt to rebuild Noah's Ark everytime I drive home
http://www.godsark.org/html/the_construction.html

I don't really see the point in getting upset about it.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:31 AM
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8. Hey, I Like That!
If they put all the animals in it, or realistic statues, it will show how impossible it is to fit all the biodiversity of the planet into something that size.

Assuming that Noah could locate all those species that were'nt even discovered until the 19th or 20th centuries. And found a way to get kangaroos from Australia and llamas from South America, and then return them to ONLY their place or origin after the flood.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:39 AM
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12. Sloths, I always giggle about the sloths
Do you know how slow a sloth moves? And yet we are told that they were released on Mt Ararat and walked all the way back to South America. At their rate of speed they would still be in transit all these 1000s of years later.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:42 AM
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17. Ooh, and an other issue
Ok, I can accept the magic stasis of God keeping the animals intact during the voyage. But what about after release? I can just imagine the conversation.

Shem: Ok little bunnies you are free to go.
Noah: Er did you release the foxes already?
Shem: Yeah, about five minutes ago. Why do you ask father?
Noah: We gotta find them before they ....
Bunny: Hop hop hop
Fox: Pounce! Grrrr
Bunny: !
Noah: DOH!!!!! No more Bunnies!
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 01:08 PM
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32. And don't forget the dinosaurs. nt
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Johnyawl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 12:34 PM
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23. hahahahahaha....

...they started that in 1976 and they're still not done? And they think God is blessing and supporting this monstrosity?

As a sailor I gotta say, that I'll only be impressed when someone builds one out of gopher wood to exact specs, loads it with animals and floats it.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 12:38 PM
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25. The beetle alone would fill the ship
There are over 350,000 species of beetles catalogged right now. Just trying to get all the beetles in the boat would be impossible.

Don't get me started on worms.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:25 AM
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4. Just another reminder of how the Romans killed people in those days
too. Crucifixions were all along the roads
to warn those dissidents to the Roman ruler.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 01:18 PM
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35. They are a WARNING to obey, just like the KKK burning crosses
http://www.willowbud.net/Lessons/Cross.htm
"In the time of Jesus, the Romans used public crucifixion as a means of capital punishment. Public executions were a warning to others not to cross Roman authority. Crucifixion was a slow tortuous way to die. You can see how crucifixions were really done by watching the movie Spartacus. The end of the movie shows how the Romans crucified those who rebelled against Rome, as those crucified were displayed all along the main road for all passersby to see. Unlike the popular image of crucifixion, the condemned person's arms and legs were tied to the cross (not nailed), and had a crosspiece support under the bottom, between the legs to support the weight of the body hanging on the cross. A person died of dehydration, and eventually suffocation as the lungs collapsed. It took days to die."

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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:25 AM
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40. The oppressed adopts the means by which they were oppressed
It is a common theme. If you adopt your oppressors symbols, then it becomes yours and therefore has less power over you.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 01:33 PM
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36. Jesus wasn't about his crucifixion as Mel Gibson wants us to believe
It was about his resurrection and that his teachings
changed the rest of history.
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:27 AM
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41. Good point
I am going to use that when I "preach" to fundies. The cross has such a negative connotation.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:29 AM
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7. If I Was Jesus, I Would Be a Little Creeped Out
That my so-called followers kept worshipping the instrument of my execution.

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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 01:08 PM
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31. As Bill Hicks said, if Christ comes back, a cross would be the last thing
he'd be happy to see.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:32 AM
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9. I saw an even better one in Kansas
with a pic of a fetus in the center of the giant cross.

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Huckebein the Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:35 AM
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10. That's nothing. Come down to Memphis
via I-40 and you will see not one, but three big assed crosses next to what I call Six Flags over Jesus at the big assed fundie church here.
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:41 AM
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16. You cant' miss it on I-40
However, ours is only 150 feet tall or something.
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Huckebein the Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:50 AM
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19. I thought they were bigger than that...I guess not
:shrug:
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 01:08 PM
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33. I'm pretty sure that's right
I might be wrong, but think of it as 15 stories
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:40 AM
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13. Sickened You?
What the hell is wrong with you people?

First someone came unglued because someone told them to have a blessed day and now you get sickened by something as minor as this?

You want to know what sickens me?

War
Bush

And both religous and non-religous intolerance.

Oh and I am a red stater with my own set of morals so I guess you know what you can do with any large object that is handy.


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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 12:08 PM
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21. Nothing more than 100 ft high can be called minor
Sorry man, but that is one HUGE FUCKING CROSS! No way on EARTH could that thing be called "minor"!

Some people are offended by other people shoving their religion in their face. For instance, you should have heard the howls from my fellow redstaters here in Georgia when it came to light that a metro-Atlanta school district was allowing Muslim students time to pray. My fellow redstaters were incensed that someone else was allowed to pray in school (this in a state with a mandated moment of silence) and furious that their children were being distracted from their studies by a few other students spending five minutes to pray.

Some people are just offended by other people shoving their religion in their face. In this case, this DUer was offended by a huge, enormous erection to Xianity. In my case, my fellow Georgians were offended by other people following the precepts of another religion.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 12:33 PM
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22. easy there - many people are sickened at the sight of these huge

crosses and have the right to say so.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 01:37 PM
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38. I think Jesus would probably be sickened too.
He didn't care much for phony bastards.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:41 AM
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14. Jesus isn't going to want to see the instrument of his execution
ugggggg
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:41 AM
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15. concerning the "morality" of these upstanding people
There's a guy I went to school with long time gone now, and that's another story, but, a few years ago I found this guy through a school reunion site.

We hadn't talked for years, but his first marriage had gone totally wrong, and life fell apart for him. He fell headfirst into a fundie church, and remarried.

The last time we visited them, he made sure I knew he had a porn stache, even though he's in church three times a week and campaigning for god and the repuke party.

I'm certain there are many more people just like him, praying loudly on the corner and hiding a collection in the basement.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:51 AM
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20. Here's another
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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 12:40 PM
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27. Do the Klanners start drooling everytime they drive by it
you betcha !!
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 01:06 PM
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30. Each of those monuments cost about a million bucks
Too bad they didn't use that money to feed the poor.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 01:12 PM
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34. no kidding. that money could have been put to much better use
and i think any realistic reading of the new testament would conclude that hundreds of thousands of dollars on such a conceit would be misspent, to say the least.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 01:36 PM
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37. How many people could that church have helped with the $1.1 mil
they blew on it?

Disgusting AND idolatrous.
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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 01:40 PM
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39. what are christians thinking with all these crosses anyway...?
Edited on Wed Feb-09-05 01:41 PM by LiberallyInclined
i mean, if their jesus really exists like they say- when he comes back, i'm thinking that a cross is the last thing that he'd want to see again...

btw- i wonder what they'd all be wearing around their necks if the romans had practiced lethal injection instead...
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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:28 AM
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42. I think it's to mark the spot where Paul Bunyon died.
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