Alan Keyes kicks daughter out of house (for being gay & not conservative)

[wicket]

This makes me SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is his daughter's blog:

http://www.xanga.com/item.aspx?user=Xmisled0youthX&tab=weblogs&uid=196061776

"Well, it's happened. Finally and officially.

A couple days ago I got my official two-week warning that I have to be out of this apartment; so finally for real I'm getting cut off. I got no severance or anything like that from my sudden termination of employment (don't I have freedom of speech? the right to protest Bush without losing my job? Hehe... most people would think that working under a parent would be security but for me it's quite the opposite.) and so I definitely don't have anywhere near enough cash to find a new apartment; not even one room rented from someone anywhere. I've been searching craigslist but even places where I'd have enough to pay the first month's rent on some room I never have enough for the deposit as well, so so far I've had no luck at all finding a new home, since shelter requires money. Sad boo."

Saw this at Oliver Willis' blog: http://www.oliverwillis.com/node/view/1822

[Worst Username Ever]

1. Rethuglicans are slime.

[Spinzonner]

8. Not really fair

Slime serves a valuable ecological function

Rethuglicans do not

Please avoid besmirching other species in your commentary

[Jack_Dawson]

12. How do we know Sheez Keyes' Daughter?

:shrug:

[wicket]

13. it was reported widely during the campaign that it is her blog

n/t

[Worst Username Ever]

15. My apologies to slime

Rethuglicans are lower than... um.. well, anything.

[arcane1]

2. "family values" strikes again

ever notice that the 10 commandments say to honour your parents, but not ONE WORD about honouring one's children?

[MountainLaurel]

74. that's because they're the parents' property

To do with as they wish.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

3. Yessir!

Love them family values!

Keyes, thy name is hypocrite.

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[w13rd0]

28. The hypocritical part...

...is that he waited until after his miserable failure of a campaign to do so.

[EST]

35. Maybe he was hoping for a victory in Illinois

so he could kick her out in a blue state (we're more generous, here) with a little lower cost of living-demonstrating his benevolence.

[0007]

42. ....and Allen Keyes violates the core beliefs of the teachings of

Jays'us Christ, which he claims he believes.

Allen Keyes is a hypocrite

[Terran]

57. The hell he's not.

He's a family-values republican. He's kicking his daughter to the curb for ideological reasons. You don't see any hypocrisy in that?

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[jmm]

20. After what he said about Mary Cheney

he'd be a hypocrite if he didn't kick her out.

[Siyahamba]

4. I'm surprised she stayed at home as long as she did.

[JI7]

6. Keyes probably left her mostly alone to try to avoid dealing with it

during his campaigns.

but now that's over he kicks her out.

another right wing hypocrite asshole.

[Withywindle]

5. I was afraid this was gonna happen...

The poor girl.

But she also blogged during the campaign about getting a lot of quiet support from the gay community. Someone will help her find a nice place. And I bet she'll be happier in the long run away from that...person.

[oneold1-4u]

7. Sing the good old song-

Take This Job and Shove It---dad

[Dogmudgeon]

9. What Would Jesus Do?

I don't think He'd throw an outraged-Daddy tantrum like the Godly Rev. Dr. Keyes did.

Maybe He'd even find you a roommate situation.

--p!

[Blue-Jay]

10. Piece of shit.

That's really all I have to say about Keyes.

[AP]

11. Is she the one who goes to/graduated from Brown University?

When I heard that he had a daughter at Brown, I thought he probably had no control over her choice of schools.

[ExclamationPoint]

14. What a nasty attack on freedom of speech!

I hoped she gets employed soon.

[ruggerson]

16. Any parent

who would throw a minor child out of the house for being gay should face criminal charges and be put in jail.

having said that, I think Keyes's daughter is over 18, so while this is vile, immoral and repugnant, it is not criminal.

[0007]

93. Who in the hell is saying it is a criminal act?

Did YOU read the article?

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[ruggerson]

19. Being gay is not an ideological belief

It's like throwing her out for being left handed. Or blue eyed.

Of course, i wouldn't throw away a relationship with a relative if they disagreed with me politically either. Unless they were actively trying to mess with me or my family.

[Anakin Skywalker]

34. I Know a Woman Who

used to beat her son for being left-handed. He has since changed to join the masses. :(

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[China_cat]

21. Could it be that none of the people here

who have done that haven't publicly...VERY publicly...declared their "family values" that included keeping their families together?

Just seems strange that he would wait until after the election to do it.

[slutticus]

29. Bull. I've never seen that.

I have, however, seen situations where DUers cut themselves off from support by family members because of political beliefs (usually due to harassment and such).

I have never in my time here seen any DUer kick a family member out on the street.

If you have proof...show it.

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[slutticus]

50. I understand,...

I'm just saying I've never witnessed this behavior on DU.

If you have specific instances of this occurring, I would like to see the threads.

[ornotna]

86. Bad link

does not work for me.

[Anakin Skywalker]

31. Family? What Family?

LOL! :)

[JanMichael]

38. I've NEVER seen someone here evict a FAMILY member.

Prove it or STFU.

Oh and some post by one guy with 3 posts claiming to be a Liberal Atheist cat killer doesn't count.

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[JanMichael]

43. Where?

Two points: I said "evict".

You also said: "I've seen WAY too many threads".

I suppose one could be enough but really now.

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[JanMichael]

48. You weren't very clear the first time. "I just did right above here."...

...reads in this thead to me and I can imagine others.

I'll check the other thread but it's still not as prevalent as you suggest.

Once again said "evict" which is what Keyes did.

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[JanMichael]

49. Could you link it please?

Or is this a wild freeper chase?

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[JanMichael]

45. Once again where? I've got one person on "ignore" other than that...

...bullshit.

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[nothingshocksmeanymore]

54. Link doesn't work

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[cags]

62. It worked for me

[JanMichael]

65. I don't see an eviction of a child.

Not remaining friends with someone who's gone over to the "darkside" is nothing like what Keyes has apparently done.

I rest my case. You made an unsubstanciated claim several posts up on this thread, the link proves nothing other than some personal conflicts (none of which included an evicting and firing as far as I can see), and the game is over.

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[JanMichael]

68. Give it a rest.

ere's what you said that started all of this:

18. I'm going to get flamed for this one.

I can't see where too many of you folks have any room to talk. I've seen WAY too many threads where some of you cut off family members over political beliefs. How is that any different than Keyes cutting off his daughter for idealogical beliefs?

Flame away, my skin is thick and I can take it!

How is it different? I saw NO evictions, no firings, and other than the thread that you linked, which was started by a person that was verbally attacked by r-winger family members during a holiday, I fail to see that your original post makes much sense.

Then you made an additional claim off of my reply, you said:

40. I just did right above here.

Apologies will be accepted.

To my:

38. I've NEVER seen someone here evict a FAMILY member.

Prove it or STFU.

Oh and some post by one guy with 3 posts claiming to be a Liberal Atheist cat killer doesn't count.

No, no, no, and no again, you did NOT see that anywhere on DU or the thread you linked.

Sorry if you miss-typed your reply but I'm not the one making up or changing rules of engagement. It's make a comment, get a reply, wash rinse repeat.

You claim that you've seen, "WAY too many threads where some of you cut off family members over political beliefs.", you posted one week old thread where some people expressed frustration with conservative family members. You continue with, "How is that any different than Keyes cutting off his daughter for idealogical beliefs?", I explained the difference, you can't seem to accept it.

It's not my fault if you make a claim that you couldn't back up.

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[JanMichael]

71. Oh please! The DU're didn't EVICT them.The DUer left.

I give up, you don't care to acknowledge the difference in actions between having arguments with family members, and eviction/firing.

Ciao.

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[nothingshocksmeanymore]

85. Nope...your point was they were just as bad

I don't see anyone tossing their family out. Loss of communication is not LOSS OF HOME> You didn't make your case.
And yeah it's worth fighting over since I KNOW how you found the thread so easily...I SAW where it was featured elsewhere on the net.


In the words of George Bush....fool me once.....uh...uh...

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

84. You are the one that is making things up...there is not ONE COMPARABLE

post in that thread and the majority of those posts are REMORSEFUL for the turn politics has taken in their families.

Now...the only person who JUMPED to a conclusion was you.

[gollygee]

46. Has someone stopped supporting a child

stopped giving his or her own child financial support and kicked his or her own child out into the street over political differences?

Saying you don't want to talk to a neighbor who has pissed you off is a different situation than that.

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[wicket]

56. I'd never turn a family member out on the street

That's beyong CRUEL! :mad:

[Senior citizen]

22. Young 'uns with nothing to lose can be dangerous.

I hope somebody on the left offers her a job that will help her fulfil her potential -- her potential to be dangerous, that is.

:evilgrin:

[Withywindle]

24. Actually the wicked thought I had was...

...it's too bad Obama doesn't have to campaign again for another six years; I bet he'd give her a job.

[Ian David]

23. More on Maya Keyes: She needs a job and a home. Anyone help?

Ms. Keyes will also be marching with EqualityMaryland on Monday, February 14th:

4:45 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.

March to Lawyer’s Mall (in front of the State House) for the rally, featuring community leaders, Judy Shepard, and Maya Marcel Keyes, the self-described queer activist who is also daughter of ultra-conservative Alan Keyes, whose recent campaign for senator from Illinois included his calling Mary Cheney a “hedonist.” Maya group up in Montgomery County and will certainly have some interesting things to say about living with someone who is so outspoken in his opposition to gay rights.

Also, there was a past article on Maya Keyes a while back that talked about her postings on Yahoo! as well.

[AlienGirl]

83. Any chance she'll move to Seattle?

She can crash at my place!

Tucker

[damntexdem]

25. Family values.

You just gotta trust these guys because they're so moral -- right? ;-)

[Negatron]

26. Alan Keyes = Hate on two feet.

The young lady will be better off away from whack-job members of the family, just like any of us are. I hope she finds something suitable without much trouble.

[ultraist]

27. He fired her for being gay? That is discrimination, she should sue

I'm not that concerned that a college graduate was kicked out of their parents home. She is an adult with a good education. But if he fired her from her job because she is gay, that is illegal.

I love my children unconditionally and wouldn't dream of cutting ANYONE off because they were gay. I though Jesus said, 'love the sinner, hate the sin.'

[hector459]

30. It's those recessive genes of his that he is ashamed of.

I know he has been fighting a tough battle. It's deep and depressing to those whose brain has been twisted by twisted religion to hate themselves.

[slutticus]

33. "Love the sinner, hate the sin."

I hate that phrase.

It's a thinly-veiled pathetic attempt at disguising bigotry.

"hate the sin". Give me a F'ing break.

I don't even think Jesus said that.

Actually, the bible clearly states that we should hate both.

[ultraist]

36. I agree, but that is the Bible quote they rely on to cloak their bigotry

My point was that IF he is relying on Bible quotes to make his decision, he didn't read that particular one, the one taht happens to be used against gays frequently.

I think it's an abuse of religion to use Bible quotes to justify hate and violence. The fact is, statements like that promote hate and violence whether they are cloaked in a Bible quote or not.

[carpe diem]

59. i don't think she graduated...

i thing she finished her first year then took some time off school to support her father while he was camapaigning in Illinois...and this is her thanks...

[MountainLaurel]

75. Not illegal in most places

Because homosexuals in many instances are not one of the protected classes where termination because of that class status is against the law.

[Occulus]

79. Gays are not a 'suspect class'

We don't have the right to sue for wrongful termination, at least, we don't in MI.

[Misunderestimator]

91. Unfortunately.... it is not illegal to fire one for being gay most places.

there are very few protections for gay citizens in employment, unless the company itself institutes a non-discrimination policy which includes the phrase "sexual orientation." Otherwise... no recourse through normal channels.

[grace0418]

32. This will probably be the best thing that ever happened to her

It will be tough, but she's obviously a tough girl if she can grow up to be an intelligent wonderful open-minded person IN SPITE of her fucking moronic asshole of a father. Getting away from his poison will allow her to really blossom.

Good luck Maya!

[Occulus]

80. must never have happened to you, then

It can be a soul-destroying experience, too. This kind of thing can and does actually drive people away from what made them "good people" in the first place. Aside from that, there's the ancillary financial and psychological recovery, which can each take years themselves.

Believe me; I know this all too well. It's been a little over a decade for me, and it still feels like it happened only yesterday.

[grace0418]

90. That's where you're wrong

My parents were sick of kids by the time I was born (youngest of 11) and couldn't wait to be rid of me. I would've loved to have supportive parents who eased me into adulthood, but I didn't. And it sucked for sure. But I'm very independent and capable now, a better person for the years of hardship despite some of the emotional scars.

Especially since she's in what can only be described as an abusive household, it's better for her to be away from there. Let's face it, her dad is mentally ill. And if her mom is allowing him to continue to unleash his bile on his family (and the whole country), then she's an enabler at best or mentally ill herself at worst.

[EST]

41. Actually, "assholes," and "pieces of shit" are quite valuable

and useful to a healthy human being. I'm not at all sure this rascal qualifies for either of those appellations.

[bobweaver]

58. She is much better off away from him.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

60. She's gay?? !! How dare you out her!

Some people are so low...
:eyes:

[wicket]

63. Ummm....she's been out for a while

:eyes:

[SemiCharmedQuark]

87. It's a referrence...to Lynn Cheney...and they way she reacted to Kerry's

debate point. Yeah...nevermind...
:eyes:

[wicket]

88. Sorry, I thought you meant I was outing her

Now I know what you mean, my apologies :hi:

[SemiCharmedQuark]

89. No worries!

I just find it so...disgusting that the very same people who would use Kerry's "we are all children of God" against him will treat their own children so poorly.


:hi:

[sharman]

61. Could she sell her story to the Enquirer?

That's one way to make rent

[SmokingJacket]

64. Could be the best thing for her...

She's so obviously opposed to everything her father stands for, it must have **sucked** to be dependent on him.

She sounds smart and energetic -- she has lots of friends -- I'm sure she'll do fine on her own.

[underpants]

69. She's black too

So I hear

[sarcasmo]

72. This should surprise no one. Cheney will do it when he is no longer VP.

[dsc]

82. actually no he won't

Whatever other faults the man has he apparently knew about his daughter for quite some time and stuck by her.

[paineinthearse]

76. Nothing in the MSM yet

Results 1 - 2 of 2 for "alan-keyes" lesbian. (0.02 seconds)

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Ehrlich, Steele mum on Md. marriage amendment
Washington Blade, DC - Feb 4, 2005
... In a related development, Equality Maryland announced this week that Maya Keyes, the lesbian daughter of the anti-gay conservative Alan Keyes, is scheduled to ...

Taranto accused Kerry, Edwards of "calling Dick Cheney's daughter ...
Media Matters for America, DC - Jan 26, 2005
... were to talk to Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would ... activist and former Republican US Senate candidate in Illinois Alan Keyes -- having already ...

[arwalden]

77. Faith Based Hatred Surmounts Even A Father's "Love" For His Child...

HOW INSPIRATIONAL!

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[paineinthearse]

78. Keyes slams Cheney daughter

For an historical perspective:

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040901-093347-1067r.htm

Keyes slams Cheney daughter

New York, NY, Sep. 1 (UPI) -- Illinois Republican U.S. Senate hopeful Alan Keyes reportedly had tough words for vice presidential daughter Mary Cheney because she is a lesbian. In an interview with SIRUS satellite radio, the Internet's Drudge Report said Wednesday, Keyes called Mary Cheney "a 'selfish hedonist' because she is a lesbian."

Keyes said: "The essence of ... family life remains procreation. If we embrace homosexuality as a proper basis for marriage, we are saying that it's possible to have a marriage state that in principal excludes procreation and is based simply on the premise of selfish hedonism." Asked whether that meant Mary Cheney "is a selfish hedonist," Keyes said: "That goes by definition. Of course she is."

Keyes took to the airwaves again Wednesday to try and put the remark in context. WBBM-AM, Chicago, reported he denied the comment was meant to slam Mary Cheney and blamed the media for taking a generalization and making it personal. Keyes said if he had a lesbian daughter he would love her but tell her she was sinning.

[GOPBasher]

81. That's so Christian.

[liberalcanuck]

92. I believe this is a pic of her ...

[sleipnir]

94. I'll say she's definitely his daughter.

It's uncanny how much she resembles her old man in that photo.

That's the crazy, wacky world of genetics!