The fact that RW pundits are discouraging Dean for DNC ...

[Jack The Tab]

...makes me want him in the position even more.

I've just read some wingnut opinion columnist for LA Times saying how suicidal it is for Dean to be DNC chair and how worried he is....LOL..

Then I read the little Novak piece where he was struck with such a compassion for our party that he spelled out how foolish it would be for us to have Dean as the DNC chair...

LOL - I love it!! Novak cares about us so much!

[bryant69]

1. Their advice always boils down to

Just do as much as you can to look talk and act exactly like us. THen you will be successful. Because when the voters have to choose between conservatives and someone else pretending to be conservative . . . well, the logic doesn't really hold together.

Bryant
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[janx]

2. They love us and want us to flourish!

;-)

[Crunchy Frog]

3. Gosh, it's amazing

just how concerned all these well meaning folks are about the wellbeing of the Democratic party.:eyes:

[KurtNYC]

4. Yes I want to see them frustrated by their inability to derail Dean

They will go back to the scream "But...but... he screamed?! Don't you remember? we showed it to you 6,000 times. Wanna see it again? Look here he is. Should we turn the sound up a little? "

[Jack The Tab]

5. Made me LOL

That is a most apt description of what they are doing

[last1standing]

6. What scares me are the DUers who are using RW words as gospel.

There are some here so interested in derailing Dean they have been posting these pundits in our forums without informing others of their political persuasion.

That's scary.

[itzamirakul]

7. And the editorial in the NY Daily News of 1/2/05 said...

<snip>
Howard Dean imagines himself to embody the ideals of a Democratic Party many of whose more thoughtful leaders want to tack hard back toward more centrist views. It's difficult to believe the Democrats could possibly be serious about electing Dean the party's national chairman. Yet it now seems there is good reason to expect that on Feb. 12 they will do exactly that, firmly positioning him as the party's public face, public voice, public bearer of its standard.

Granted the man proved himself a spectacular fund-raiser, give him that. He has also proved himself to be so to the left of the American mainstream that saner Democrats - grasping that nothing would make Republicans much happier than a Chairman Howard - are mounting every last-ditch Stop Dean effort they can think of. for now, though, Dean appears to hold a commanding lead. And the Democratic Party appears to be determined to snuff itself out.
<snip end>

First, how will Dean as Party Chair "snuff out" the party? The title of the editorial is: DEM'S SUICIDE PACT. Why do the rightwingers purport to KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR US? Why is anything that is GOOD for us always reported as "the end of the party?"

And why in the hell do they think we even CARE what they think or suggest?

Second, I sure would appreciate some help in formulating a brief but pointed (bordering on nasty) response to this editorial.

[quiet.american]

11. Tired of all this "centrist" B.S.

Dammit, I'm tired of hearing about anyone, but especially Dean, being to "the left of mainstream" from these thoroughly useless pundits and politicians.

So what exactly is centrist good for? Pro-war, anti-choice, pro-corporatism, anti-populist.

Who the hell wants to be that.

What's so god-awful about wanting, for starters, universal healthcare (we are the only industrialized nation without it) a decent living for people working for minimum wage, and unity between all the diverse cultures that make up this country?

Why the hell is that so outrageous?

If I hear this damn word "centrist" one more time being referred to as the Holy Grail of politics, I'm going to scream!

[KurtNYC]

12. A blast from the past asserts that Rove fears Dean

How do I know? Because if they really thought Dean would be easy for Bush to beat, they'd build him up to make sure he'd win the Democratic nomination. They were doing that last summer, but no longer. They now fear Governor Dean most of all. That explains why Republicans bash Dean constantly. On right-wing hate radio and on the talking head shows. On the editorial pages and in the "news" sections. As these tactics fail, Republican fear grows.

also...

That explains Rove's desperation. David Reinhard explains "Why Dean can win next November" in his article of that name: "Let us not be fooled by misguided conventional wisdom. Dean is a threat and Republicans better not ignore him." his is the considered judgment of two respected Republican pollsters - Bob Moore and Hans Kaiser - from Portland's Moore Information.

The GOP pollsters fear "Howard Dean can win because he believes in what he is saying, because he can semi-legitimately spin his record as governor into one of fiscal conservatism, and because he comes across as if he actually cares about people The difference between Howard Dean and the rest of the Democratic candidates is that Dean comes across as a true believer to the base but he will not appear threatening to folks in the middle."

More at: http://www.thepoliticalleft.com/columns/hersh/hersh_111403.shtml

[KaryninMiami]

8. Agreed- the more they complain, the more they fear.

Dean's probable win as DNC chair is the first piece of positive news we've had for a long time. Many of us- most of us (thank goodness) know that this is a great thing and are excited about having something to celebrate next week. As for Novak's "compassion for our party", I have a suggestion of where he can put it, along with his concerns for us about having Dean as DNC Chair! Go ahead Novak and anyone one else on your team with similar concerns. Your concerns only magnify our excitement! Go Dean!

[Hissyspit]

9. What is it that Dean would do that would screw us anymore than we are

...already screwed?

[Carl Yasutomo]

10. Right wingers bash Dean because they're afraid of him

I mean really, if Dean were so bad for the Democratic Party, wouldn't it be smarter for the Repubs to shut up and let him take over? When it looked like he was going to win the primaries, why didn't the Rs just stay quiet and let him get nominated if he was going to be so easy for Bush to defeat? But instead of staying quiet, they launched an all-out campaign to discredit him and make sure he wouldn't win the primaries. This makes no sense. When Pat Buchanan won the 1996 New Hampshire primary, did the Dems launch a full-throated campaign to destroy him? No. They stayed quiet and were secretly happy he was doing so well, because they knew that his brand of Republicanism would never win a general election.

The only explanation that makes sense is that the right wingers know Dean is their strongest opponent in years, so they are doing everything they can to nip him in the bud now and destroy the movement that he has created.

[itzamirakul]

13. Not only did the rightwingers set out to destroy Dean's

candidacy, but they were joined by the DINOs in our party, namely the leaders of the DLC, who had no interest in a Democratic win. These are the same people that the NY Daily news editorial calls:

SANE DEMOCRATS!

Meaning that those of us who want Dean are

INSANE DEMOCRATS!