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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 03:50 PM
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Ted Turner Lambastes GOP Propaganda Channel "Fox News"
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/CA499014.html

Turner Compares Fox's Popularity to Hitler

By Jim Finkle -- Broadcasting & Cable, 1/25/2005 2:14:00 PM

Ted Turner called Fox a propaganda tool of the Bush administration and indirectly compared Fox News Channel's popularity to Adolph Hitler's popular election to run Germany before World War II.

Turner made those fiery comments in his first address at the National Association for Television Programming Executives' conference since he was ousted from Time Warner Inc. five years ago.


Mr. Turner, what the HELL were you thinking, selling your once fine network off to those thugs?

Imagine how different the face of American media might be today had you not sold out...
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 03:57 PM
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1. oh Ted PLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEZE come back!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 03:57 PM
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2. National Association for Television Programming Executives, huh?
I'll bet they weren't cheering and stomping with enthusiasm for his views on Fox.

Yeah, too bad he sold out. Too, too bad. The vehemence of his comments makes me wonder if he's expressing some personal regrets, too.
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 03:58 PM
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3. It sounds like sour grapes to me----CNN is sinking & it was his baby.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:29 PM
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10. Not even close.
Care to try again?
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:01 PM
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4. I am confused about Mr. Turner
way back in the early 1980s I thought he was the conservative saviour who was gonna buy CBS because it was way too liberal. Am I mis-remembering, or did Jane convert him or what?
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 05:09 PM
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14. Turner has always been fairly progressive for a media mogul.
Remember the "Goodwill Games" of the eighties? That was his idea to continue friendly competition between the US and Russia after Carter's ill-advised Olympic boycott. He's a big democratic contributor.

Had he not sold CNN, it would undoubtedly be VERY different today.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 05:26 PM
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15. I was remembering this
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=turner+CBS+liberal+1981&btnG=Search
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So I had this picture in my head that he was one of "the enemy". That was way before the internet and it was not possible to keep up with the news.
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 07:34 PM
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20. Think about it, the world would be a VERY different place...
....and KO would of course be main anchorman :-)
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:04 PM
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5. CNN is practically worse than Fox these days!
Maybe he needs to speak about that too!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:43 PM
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12. I agree.
Roger Ailes cleverly targeted a conservative, gullible television audience providing "news" with coded language that appealed to them.

It was brilliant marketing and even the fake "liberals" on the Fox News programs are quick to wink at the objectivity of their network.

However, CNN really makes an effort to reach a broader audience and all the it was CNN who pushed the Iraqi War more than any other news outlet in America.

The night of the invasion Aaron Brown was grinning ear to ear exclaiming over and over "Great fun! Great fun!"...while children were being bombed out of their homes.

And no one in the entire televised medium approaches Wolf Blitzer's fanning the flames of raw emotions for making war against Iraq.

If you think about it, the entire mess should be called the Bush and Blitzer war.

You are right, Democat. CNN is worse.
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Dangerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:04 PM
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Self-deleted
Edited on Tue Jan-25-05 04:06 PM by Dangerman
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Dangerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:04 PM
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6. Mr. Turner, Faux, MSNBC and your own station signed a deal with the devil!
We want you back!
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:06 PM
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7. Ted should know what he's talking about. I'm glad he said it! n/t
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:16 PM
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8. Bravo!
Thanks Mr. Turner. =)


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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:32 PM
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11. Kick
Always good to see some sense in the house.
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:29 PM
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9. Ted's campaign contributions
for those interested, he's been a big $$ Democratic supporter.
http://www.newsmeat.com/media_political_donations/Ted_Turner.php
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 04:50 PM
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13. Turner remains the only fatcat capitalist I don't want to see...
up against the wall
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 05:28 PM
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16. He needs to buy CNN back. And we can help him.
We can all buy CNN stock and kick some of those bastards out. Starting with Wolf Blitzer....
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 06:27 PM
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17. Agreed. CNN is little better than Faux.
And the beginning of the end for cable news networks came when Ted sold out and the corporate weasels took over.
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coreystone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 06:40 PM
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18. Ted Turner DOES know what he talking about! Washington Monthly!
This is a quite lengthy article by Ted Turner which was published in the "Washington Monthly" in the July/August 2004 edition. Rather than to bias my opinion with my personal perspective, I would hope that all take the time to read it!! It is a an EXCELLENT read!

My Beef With Big Media

Link: http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomframe.jsp?query=Ted+Turner++speeches++media&page=4&offset=0&result_url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26requestId%3D1ba55b9715336f60%26clickedItemRank%3D35%26userQuery%3DTed%2BTurner%2B%2Bspeeches%2B%2Bmedia%26clickedItemURN%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.oligopolywatch.com%252F2004%252F07%252F25.html%26invocationType%3Dnext%26fromPage%3DNSCPNextPrev%26amp%3BampTest%3D1&remove_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oligopolywatch.com%2F2004%2F07%2F25.html

Then click on "piece"

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coreystone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 07:30 PM
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19. Washington Monthly!
"Loss of democratic debate
When media companies dominate their markets, it undercuts our democracy. Justice Hugo Black, in a landmark media-ownership case in 1945, wrote: "The First Amendment rests on the assumption that the widest possible dissemination of information from diverse and antagonistic sources is essential to the welfare of the public."

<snip>

Independents' day

"This is a fight about freedom--the freedom of independent entrepreneurs to start and run a media business, and the freedom of citizens to get news, information, and entertainment from a wide variety of sources, at least some of which are truly independent and not run by people facing the pressure of quarterly earnings reports. No one should underestimate the danger. Big media companies want to eliminate all ownership limits. With the removal of these limits, immense media power will pass into the hands of a very few corporations and individuals."

Link: http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomframe.jsp?query=Ted+Turner++speeches++media&page=4&offset=0&result_url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26requestId%3D1ba55b9715336f60%26clickedItemRank%3D35%26userQuery%3DTed%2BTurner%2B%2Bspeeches%2B%2Bmedia%26clickedItemURN%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.oligopolywatch.com%252F2004%252F07%252F25.html%26invocationType%3Dnext%26fromPage%3DNSCPNextPrev%26amp%3BampTest%3D1&remove_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oligopolywatch.com%2F2004%2F07%2F25.html

Then click on: "piece"


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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 07:34 PM
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21. Question of the day ...
Would you rather be locked in a room with:

A. Ted Turner
B. Rupert Murdoch


I think if those were my choices, I'd go with "C" as long as it means being euthanized.
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coreystone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 08:03 PM
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22. I guess I don't understand! Turner is stating why the MSM is not reliable!
I don't care to be locked in a room with anyone! However, Turner does give some extremely interesting perspective regarding the corporate takeover of the information which reaches the citizens of this country. He also depicts quite clearly, in his perspective of his personal experience how this has occurred.

I will lock myself in my own apartment....thank you, but, it is most important to understand why there are no more Walter Cronkite's, or any other journalists which are being sponsored by the media forces which have forced us to seek refuge in the "quasi-objective" internet resources upon which we seek the truth; and, those internet sources are not "viewed" by the "main stream" American citizen who has very little time to spend the hours of each day to "vet" the reliability of those sources.

It is time to take back the media, and those sources which misinform our citizenry in disallowing the CONTROLLED dissemination of information which allows all of us to become more responsible for the decisions in choosing our elected officials.

Choice "C" is not well defined! But, choosing between (A) Ted Turner, or, (B) Rupert Murdoch is not the question! The answer is to find out WHY the media has been stolen from America, and, what practical solutions would be to resolve the "corporate" takeover.
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RockStar Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 08:40 PM
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23. We need to bring a news station govn by independents.
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