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[soupkitchen]

1. Claiming it's all over might prove to be his big mistake

Maybe he overplayed his hand

[PurityOfEssence]

24. He's losing in the court of public opinion

One may legally convict someone on specifics, but the court of public opinion works on a much more visceral level.

The Imperiousness of this man will be his downfall, much as it was instrumental in his rise. Although many cowering hero-worshippers "like" decisiveness and simplicity of action, they don't necessarily like someone who blatantly tells them things that don't smack of the truth and then pronounce an end to the story.

He just said: "this is over; shut up." That reverberates with the language of emotional abuse, and the selfsame followers upon whom he relies have too much sense-memory of being crushed by abusers to lick that boot forever.

A powerful person who seems to have a steely gaze on the horizon fighting for you has an appeal to the timid; his barking at accountablilty doesn't.

It's the "because I said so" administration. It's the "shut up, peon" administration. It's the "get the fuck out of my way" administration. Enough of the weak will not like the sound of this.

One by one, supporters lose their zeal or drop away entirely. It's a long road.

[julka]

25. you mean the......

W H O
C A R E S
W H A T
Y O U
T H I N K ?

administration?

[PurityOfEssence]

41. uh-yup.

How many different versions of barkings have to happen before folks see that they're on that same list of "inferiors" that these creeps don't think are worthy of being allowed to exist?

It's like any social structure, sociopaths are eventually marginalized and encapsulated; they're just too dangerous to all. You see it with the berating dick, who for some reason is part of a group; with time, he/she will be invited over less, deferred to less and tolerated less. People of completely dissimilar beliefs will gang up on those who don't obey the sacred unspoken rules of society: more or less tell the truth and don't beat the snot out of people. These guys are true failures on the Kindergarten level.

Gonna be fun watching the wolf eat 'em, isn't it?

[KittyWampus]

37. Rove Sold Junior As A Product

Rove sold Junior as a product.... all hype but no substance.

There comes a time when the marketing just doesn't work anymore... especially if the product sucks.

Junior is going down.

The Neo-Cons shortly after.

The GOP will finally lose its grip also.

Machismo & Reptilian Behavior gets really stale fast for most people... except angry white men and women like Ann coulter.

[PurityOfEssence]

43. absolutely; macho individualism is a lie against the nature of life

We're absolutely helpless for the first few years of our lives and would die a thousand different ways were it not for the constant help of numerous people. I've got kids; it's obvious.

The unswervative ethic is the "party of me"; whereas the left is the "party of us".

The sheer poetry of Enron is this: they failed because their model simply doesn't work. They got their unfettered and unscrutinized way, and by human nature imploded in catastrophic fashion.

Life is not like movies. Singular heros are few, and even they exist within a sub-society of people who benefit from their existence. When the proportion of those whom you benefit is far outstripped by those hurt, you will be removed from society.

A small percentage of a subset that's only 4% of the world's population thinks it can push, order and threaten obedience. The problem is that it doesn't pay its debts, and like a greasy bookie who doesn't pay off on wagers, they will be taken out. The ONLY reason to hang with the Repubs is the Horatio Alger wish that someday you'll be able to be one of them. It's obvious that they only want to keep the barriers up, just as John Edwards is fond of saying.

Horatio Alger died broke.

[AbbPoacher]

26. Ther is no evidence, on the ground, in Iraq , to support

the Bush administrations "Case for War".If there is any ,it is very weak.Except for the Niger uranium,Tenet stands by the the intelligence cited by the administration, and the credibility of the CIA. Bush approves of Tenet. Moreover, none the undisclosed, classified,and unpresented intelligence produced any WMD. ...........What about the undisclosed and unpresented intelligence tha supports the "Case for Inspections and Sanctions" ? Who presented this intelligence ? Not the CIA . Certainly not Bushco......... The intelligence chosen for presentation has not panned out.The post war search has turned up little ,if any , WMD evidence . The intelligence selected,by Bush, was limited, weak and (in one case) dirty........ The CIA is credible , the success of the bombardment and ground invasion supports this.The US did not lose the Intelligengce War ! Intelligence certainly exsists that supports the lack of WMD in Iraq . International agencies have provided some, the rest remains in the "bowels" of the CIA. Who will present it?

[fizzana]

34. He's been overplaying is hand since his selection

It's only now that it's all catching up to him.

[RummyTheDummy]

36. As someone who works in the media......

Albeit in sports, I still have some knowledge how the "newsies" on the other side of the room think and there is literally no better way to piss off a reporter than to tell him/her a story "is over" or that the "matter is closed".
It's the holy grail of fuck ups folks.

[diplomats]

42. I work in the media, too

for a Sunday newspaper. And you're absolutely right. Bush's declaration is nothing but an invitation to the press to keep on pursuing this.

[I Lean Left]

39. It was incredibly arrogant!

I mean, really, since when do the subject of investigations get to decide when the matter is closed?

It was also kind of stupid, considering all they had to do was raise the security level, or accuse Syria, or rescue a GI, or something. The press would have gone along.

[latebloomer]

2. Hopefully

the true powers that be has decided to get rid of him.

Question is, what about all the damage he's done already? Do we get our civil liberties back, for instance?

[the masses against the classes]

3. pay no attention to the man behind the curtain

he's done that so many times before: his DUI...his arrests, his supposed cocaine use, his "lost" time in the armed forces...he's simply told the media that there was no story and the media went on their merry way...why should we expect this time to be any different (oh please oh please oh please make this stick!)

[moondust]

4. Does the kowtowing stop at the graveyard's edge?

It's getting interesting.

[Egnever]

15. where did you get that line?

Does the kowtowing stop at the graveyard's edge?

I like it :)

[moondust]

38. he he.

old chinese proverb.B-)

[kentuck]

5. Until the next big story moves it out of the consciousness...

One story displaces the other and it is as if never existed. Hopefully, some in the media will see the significance and import of this story.

[Cooley Hurd]

6. CNN has a new crawler graphic for it, so it must have legs...

"WMD: Burden of Proof"

[nostamj]

32. CNN is hyping a 'special report'

and I think that's the title...

"all over" * ???

no.

[ward919]

7. It's up to the media whether it's over or not! Afte what happened

to journalists during the Iraqi invasion, most journalists should realize that this cabal really thinks nothing of their profession...only how they can be USED. Otherwise, they are targets for bombing and other killings. Neither the US or Israel respects true and honest journalism and that should be enough for some dedicated, honest journalists to take them on and fight to the finish...otherwise we are all so much "dead meat."

[GalleryGod]

8. Cue-Up Glen Frey's Hit: "The HEAT is ON!"

I was playing it yesterday when this story was boiling. I agree with you,Pete! Some Broadcast Babes are trying to brush it aside like lint! Gloria WHOREger on "Capital Report" had a tough time with EJ Dionne & John Hardwood of the WSJ (blessed be!) as she tried to whisk W's troubles away! Friggin'Painted-Up-Old-Ho!:smoke:

[mvd]

9. It is not over

Ha ha - Dubya thinks he can make orders again - no way. He was either incompetent, his misadministration fooled the CIA, or Tenet is just taking the fall. We must investigate to see what it is.

[searchingforlight]

10. Either way it is a gross error.

A nation does not put their reputation on the line without checking and double checking it's sources. If they did, it is even more blatant mismanagement. There is no win.

[BeatleBoot]

11. This Story Ain't Going Away Until....

They find some weapons over there or he resigns from office.

Not that it should go away if they do find WMD - * still lied.

* not only lied, but he used forged information in the lie.

But I think that there will be less attention given by the media if WMD are found.

In the meantime, I think that its an ever-growing scandal that might just bring down the administration.

[kentuck]

14. Bush lied about those trailers found in Iraq, also...

So this is not like his first little white lie. He has told some real whoppers and will continue unless he is called on each and every one.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

19. Indeed -- More lies must be exposed

I don't think they will get away with even this one lie, because it's so huge, but I think there needs to be no letup, expose other lies.

More could easily come out as the hearings continue.

[WhataBildeberger]

12. It's now painfully obvious

that * has a sketchy history with declaring things "over" prematurely.

"Mission Accomplished," anyone?

[rock]

18. "Mission accomplished", he ejactulated

Premature.

[1monster]

21. Down here

"Hey who put the economy down here?"



I dunno Oscar, but someone put the Constitution there too!"

[AlinPA]

13. Problem this A.M. Media reports Bush saying

that "I still have confidence in the CIA". This makes it sound like "its OK now/I forgive them/the matter is closed/etc"
Thats the way the story below sounds to me. I'm afraid it will be gone by Tuesday evening's news.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=584&ncid=584&e=1&u=/nm/20030712/pl_nm/bush_iraq_cia_dc

[Sophree]

23. I'm speculating here

"He also said a former U.S. ambassador, Joseph Wilson, has reported that he had been contacted by a "businessman" in 1999 to discuss what he believed to be an Iraq-Niger uranium deal."

But CHENEY was a "businessman" in 1999 and HE'S the one who requested the CIA to investigate the matter in 2002.

Hmmmmmmmmm......

[fishnfla]

16. RE: the whores vs. the Clintons

I'm reading "The Clinton Wars". The press was brutal with scandal. Whitewater, there was nothing there. All the paper tiger scandals, poof.
Now maybe they have something thats REAL, something with this thing they've been missing called PROOF. something thats IMPORTANT.

just maybe. and not one media guy wants to be left out this time, even Rupert.

[chaumont58]

17. I sure as hell hope so

In 1993, when the Rangers were lost in Somalia, freeper types were quick to say that it happened on Clinton's watch, its his fault. Now, we are to believe that someone other than the POTUS is responsible for what goes into a State of the Union speech? Clinton is responsible for anything and everything that happened during his fours years in office, but Bush gets a pass on info included in a SOTU address? God all mighty damn, ain't it great to have one standard.
To paraphrase Raymond Donovan, where do the 130 dead Americans go to get their good lives back?

[searchingforlight]

20. and if you gave the dead iraqis a choice

what do you think their choice would be.

[Lone_Wolf]

22. The burden of proof

Since ChimpCo said Iraq had to prove they are free of WMD, then the media should hold ChimpCo to the same standard. ChimpCo should prove to us he didn't lie.

[ibegurpard]

27. Yeah, it's over like the Iraq war is over.

Keep dreaming bunnypants.

[RichM]

28. I'm very troubled by the NYT top headline that the WH considers the

matter "closed." Though the article itself is by AP, the fact that they are giving such prominence to it seems typical to me of a wagon-circling action.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/13/international/worldspecial/13TENE.html?hp

[calimary]

29. Now is NOT the time to sit back, guys!

Email CNN and MSNBC and tell 'em you want MORE answers. Tell 'em George Tenet's statements make you MORE suspicious, not less. Tell 'em America - and our troops - AND THEIR FAMILIES deserve better than the cover-up we're now seeing the White House trying to pull...

PLEASE! They have to be encouraged in this. You HAVE to know that Rove is pushing too hard the other way!

[lkinsale]

30. And sign the Democrats petition too!

http://www.democrats.org/truth/index.html?s=front

[thinkahead]

31. Political Theater

and that's what it needs to be called. Tenet's "Mea Culpa" was drafted over two days. This was carefully coordinated.

The media seems to be going after the actual story for once... they smell blood.

And they should. What else did they expect from this Nixonian bunch? Half of them were in the Nixon Administration - and they demonstrate the same exact secrecy around their operation as Nixon did. They are paranoid about everything. They despise liberals, and the "liberal media", just like Nixon. Karl Rove? Hello! The only difference I can see between this Administration and the Nixon Administration is that Nixon didn't have Fox News in lock step with his agenda, and an army of right wing pundits spreading out, screaming talking points as loud as they can. Bush has a powerful propoganda tool at his disposal. And he uses it wisely. Nixon lost out on Watergate because he didn't have the media in his pocket. The Administration had no reason to believe it wouldn't get away with spicing up the Iraqi threat.

The real question for the media now is why Bush so badly wanted to sell the War in Iraq - at a time when we need to focus on actually finding Osama, funding our own Homeland Security, and fixing our miserable economy. Why the hard sell on Iraq - especially when it's clear now that all we've done there is enable Hussein to start a Guerilla War against our troops. Why the hard sell - when it even meant we were going to have to dangerously jeapordize relationships with key allies. Why the hard sell - when it was clear we were going to have to foot a major part of the bill, and provide a majority of the manpower for "removing Hussein". It is clear that Bush wanted the scariest possible message to feed the American people. The question is: why?

[lkinsale]

33. He wanted to look like he was doing something when he wasn't

He can't find Osama, so he and Rummy thought Saddam would be an easy target. Stupid and utterly dangerous miscalculation, both realistically and politically. Now he can't find either one of 'em, or the WMD's. He looks stupid, the U.S. looks stupid, he blew it. They may think they are master Machiavelli's but they're just a bunch of corporate bozos in the process of taking down the whole company (oh--uh--I mean, country.)

I believe we are in more danger from al Qaeda than ever before. But then what do I know?

(About as much as the CIA, it would appear.)

[DrBB]

35. The "non-mea-culpa" mea culpa. Why?

Hadn't heard that about it being drafted over two days. But I know one thing, no head of the CIA could have written a less exculpatory statement than that. He leaves all the same questions open--hell, he actually confirms, at least implicitly, the negative version that Kristof, Gjelton and others have been pushing. His "rescue" of the *admin puts them in the position of saying, "The CIA didn't stop us from deliberately lying, therefore it's THEIR fault." Well, gee,that ain't so hot is it. As exonerations go it's hard to distinguish from an indictment.

I can't believe Tenet didn't know that's what the letter adds up to. So I can only conclude he's throwing down the gauntlet to the *admin critics. I think he's more or less just stepping out of the way, while pretending to give Shrump the cover Condi demanded. This thing is shear pretence.

[grasswire]

40. it's the LOSER administration

Egad, he has mucked up everything he put his hand to all his life.

So he just declares it over and goes on to something else.

LOSER!

[Ishoutandscream]

44. Bob Boudelang just rang me up

and said the story is now over and that Bush still has brought honesty and integrity to the White House. So stop saying that!