Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Please tell me why...

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:43 PM
Original message
Please tell me why...
The only senator to resist was Barbara Boxer who bravely stood up and fought against the stolen election. My question is, why was she the only one? There are many many more Democratic senators.

Why don't we consider Barbara Boxer for Democratic Party chairwoman. I think she would do a much better job than Howard Dean, who appears to be right now the popular choice. Especially since she was the only person in the Senate to resist the stolen election.

end of rant.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:52 PM
Response to Original message
1. Please tell me why-I wish I knew too n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
laura888 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:54 PM
Response to Original message
2. amen to that!
it is certainly a mystery that investigating voter problems is considered "too left-wing" by some democratic senators.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. yeah
I just don't get why only one Senator protested the election. It makes me kinda sad really that not even those Senators (except Boxer) in our own party are not willing to stand for what is right against the corrupt Republicans.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 10:51 PM
Response to Original message
4. I may be mistaken
My understanding of Senatorial procedure is kind of murky in this case but I believe that only one Senator is needed or desired, perhaps even only one is permitted, to protest per state. If you watched the events take place on CSPAN you saw that each states vote were announced and recorded in turn, with the opportunity to protest taking place as the state in questions votes were announced.

At that point a Senator, in this case Barbara Boxer, can request the attention of the chair and once receiving it is allowed to object. Since only one Senator at a time can be recognized by the Chair it is impossible for multiple protests to be lodged simultaneously. Furthermore once the protest is made the procedure for dealing with it is automatically started, there is no need or even ability for other protests to be lodged against the same states electors.

Instead, other Senators offer their support (or lack thereof) through making arguments for or against the objection, and afterward through their final vote. Now the votes that were cast, those you might find offensive, but saying that Boxer was the only one to object is just misunderstanding the procedure I believe.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:26 PM
Response to Original message
5. I'm sure as a group they discussed a strategy
One person was needed to trigger the debate.

Personally, I would have preferred if they all voted not to accept it, but I accept that the outcome was the same either way, and I'm grateful someone did object, and others spoke.

I will donate to her next campaign, and I hope if enough others support those that spoke, and those that voted, the other dems will get the message that they're safer politically if they do speak out against things that are wrong.

As we get closer to 2006, once the folks running again have campaigns set up, it would be very cool to organize donations based on votes. Instead of sending $200 to a candidate, we could see how they vote on issues, and send them a contribution with X amount of dollars per vote we approved of, with a little score card, so they know which events cost them money.

"You would have received $200 from me, but because you voted to confirm Gonzales you are only receiving $175."

Or it could even be incremental donations as the votes roll in, with emails to explain why they didn't get a contribution after a certain vote.

If it was done in an organized way, I think they'd catch on pretty quick, and be able to anticipate what we want them to do - and force them to explain to their supporters why they voted a position we don't understand. I don't know if that would officially make us lobbyists or what the ethical and legal ramifications are, though.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:58 PM
Response to Original message
6. Boxer is not running for party chair
How many things should one person be expected to tackle and do any of them well? She is doing her thing and doing it well, with support of many others (including Kerry, I might add). Leave her to her business and tap someone else to do that job.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue May 07th 2024, 02:00 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC