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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:48 PM
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the FLU is widespread now....all over American (CDC link - map)
bush* failure-to-deliver-flu-vaccines has wrought this terror against us...with more vaccine now available, bush* has failed to speak out, to correct his previous warnings: don't get any flu vaccine, you must sacrifice to save others....

no word at all from bush* or his minions about this spread of death ....haven't heard a word to encourage more people to get vaccinated, to give advice on stopping the spread of death....


http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/





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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:53 PM
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1. Oh, shit-CT is all red!
Not a good thing.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:53 PM
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2. i am in red texas, both flu and repug
amybe it will clear out by tues when kids go back to school. fingers crossed, wink
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:06 PM
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25. Which are you hoping will clear out?
The repuglicans or the flu. Is there really much difference?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:55 PM
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3. Have they taken the restriction off of who can get a shot yet?
About a month ago, I heard one report that said they actually have an excess supply of flu vaccine since they put all the restrictions on who could receive shots, and far fewer people in the catagories they said shoud get them ever wert for them. In fact, in that broadcast, they said there is a possibility they would have to destroy some left over vaccine.

I haven't heard a word since!

I never get a flu shot, because years ago, I got one (under duress) and that's the only time I ever got the flu. But I wanted my husband to get one becaue 12 years ago he had quad by-pass surgury and is 62. The Dr. said sorry, he wasn't permitted to give him one. I should check to see if they've changed the parameters.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:06 PM
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7. Check with your local Public Health Department....n/t
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:11 PM
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9. info buried in CDC site....here's what you need to KNOW that bush*
isn't telling you (because bush* would have to admit his own complicity in this mess)....

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5401a6.htm

Influenza activity was low in the United States during October through early December but has increased steadily since mid-December. Current surveillance indicators suggest that influenza activity for the season has not yet peaked.

Purchase of Additional Inactivated Influenza Vaccine

DHHS has purchased 1.2 million doses of the GSK influenza vaccine, Fluarix®, for use in areas with continued vaccine shortages. The Fluarix vaccine obtained by DHHS is similar to other injectable U.S.-licensed influenza vaccines and is licensed and used in more than 78 countries, including the 25 countries of the European Union, Australia, and New Zealand. Because both Fluarix and U.S.-licensed influenza vaccines adhere to the WHO vaccine strain recommendations, components of the two vaccines are similar. However, Fluarix must be used under an IND protocol in the United States because it is not currently licensed by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the time available is not sufficient to obtain FDA licensure for this vaccine to be administered as a licensed product for this season. This vaccine will be available for:

Adults aged >50 years,
Persons aged >3 years with underlying chronic medical conditions***,
Pregnant women in the 2nd or 3rd trimester or women in the 1st trimester with other high-risk conditions for influenza complications***,
Residents of nursing homes and long-term--care facilities,
Children aged 3--18 years on chronic aspirin therapy***,
Health-care workers involved in direct patient care,
Out-of-home caregivers and household contacts of persons with high-risk conditions†††.

During the next several weeks, the IND vaccine will be available in identified clinics in selected areas of the United States where need for more influenza vaccine persists. CDC is working with state and local public health officials to finalize the clinic locations. When decisions have been finalized, information on the clinic locations will be available through local and state public health authorities, at telephone 800-232-4636, and on the CDC website. Persons who wish to receive this vaccine must call the clinic for appointments during regular clinic hours, sign a consent form, and provide limited additional information for monitoring the IND vaccine program. The cost of vaccination will be paid by Medicare for persons with Medicare part B coverage. These persons should be prepared to provide their Medicare number and other billing information at the time of vaccination. Persons without Medicare will be responsible for the cost of the vaccine and its administration at the time of their appointment.

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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:26 PM
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14. thanks for the info. CA has expanded access under these guidelines.
Medicare pays, and, yes, we did local promos based on the CDC memos.

It's off the WH "radar" apparently. (Gotta sell that Social Security plan...)
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:55 PM
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4. I really really REALLY hope that Bu$hCo, the Twins
and Laura get the Flu REALLY REALLY bad on inauguration day and they all have to spend the day puking their guts out

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

:hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:57 PM
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6. That would be a real pretty ball *lol*
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:17 PM
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12. Wouldn't it be pretty? I just hope that the "girls" all wear white
dresses and all of a sudden they can't control their innards!!

:evilgrin:
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:26 PM
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15. Sorry...
Green for Jenna and Aqua for Babs Jr.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 06:56 PM
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5. Maine reported a 'pediatric death'...wait until more kids DIE from bush*
incompetence....

as school starts up...there'll be more spread of DEATH and more children dying....thanks bush*....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:11 PM
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:19 PM
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13. WOW...I was going to welcome you, but seems you've been tombstoned
already...bye bye....
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:01 PM
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23. Maybe the weather keeps people outdoors more less contact with
the sick ones. I dunno. You'd think the virus would freeze up here. We are.
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WillowTree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:13 PM
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10. Here's the map for the same week last year...
....when there was no vaccine shortage



By comparison, we seem to be in much better shape so far this year.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:28 PM
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30. no, the last year when flu vaccine AND insured Americans....here
it took bush* a couple years to GUT the FLU vaccine programs AND throw millions more Americans into the 'uninsured' category....BOTH those bush* policies TOGETHER are KILLING a lot of people....






compare to our current crisis...NO vaccine, 48 MILLION Americans without insurance....

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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:15 PM
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11. While Bushco fumbled the flu vax situation, check out the 2 CDC graphs
Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 07:17 PM by pinto
at the same site for 1.)confirmed influenza hospitalizions and 2.)visits for influenza like illnesses. Those graphs compare three or four flu seasons over time.

This flu season to date seems much like 02-03. The map you post is a weekly snapshot. That figure can jump up and down a lot, due to its short time frame.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly

and, oddly enough, the nation's string of bad weather helps keep flu transmission down, because folks stay home more, schools get closed, etc....

(just wanted to add some perspective to the picture. Thanks)
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:36 PM
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16. there is a LOT MORE statistical manipulation this year...obviously

intended to cover for bush*.....


CDC is surveying THREE sites for pediatric hospitalizations (how realistic is that?)...CDC budget has been slashed, there are not enough tests being run, and very few being characterized for the specific type of flu.....48 MILLION Americans have NO health insurance, and are not showing up in any of this data.....


CDC SHOULD POST THE REAL NUMBERS...now, they are only posting statistical manipulation....just put the number of FLU/PNEUMONIA deaths right up on their web page in a BIG BOX....


we have a right to know how many Americans DIE from the FLU and its complication (pneumonia) every day...we pay for that...the information is not available on the STATISTICAL BULLSHIT CDC web site....if you find it, let me know....just the REAL NUMBER, please....






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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:06 PM
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26. It's called the MMR - Morbidity and Mortality Report. Here it is.
Still straight forward numbers, without any spin.

(The politics that has creeped into the CDC is unnerving and inappropriate, but the MMR is still what it is - real numbers.)


http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/

interesting stuff.

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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:33 PM
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31. NOTHING there...no numbers for FLU and it's pneumonia complication

NONE...the last numbers that came out from the MMR was on December 16, 2004....713 Americans DIED FROM THE FLU (and it's pneumonia complication) that WEEK....that's a LOT of KILLING....


so, when will MMR (which is put out by CDC) just TELL US HOW MANY AMERICANS are being KILLED from the FLU, everyday....put a BIG BOX on the front of their web site and TELL US THE TRUTH....


I'm not surprised that you shoved out just a link....if you find the number of Americans KILLED from the FLU last week, let us all know...

that number is being HID from us....for fear of embarrassing bush*...but only with that number KNOWN, can our medical caregivers stop the KILLING....
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:07 PM
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34. sorry, Dec 16th is the latest data. That's only a month ago. Not bad in
my book. I'm not going to respond to your posts about this subject any more. Thanks for bringing it up here, though.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:21 PM
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35. confirms that CDC puts out NO NUMBERS, just statistical manipulations


Americans are DYING every day because of bush* inability to deliver the FLU vaccine...and NOW, CDC is publishing NO NUMBERS to tell us how bad bush* messed up....

it's real simple: CDC should tell us HOW MANY AMERICANS died from the flu (and it's complication, pneumonia) every day...PUT IT IN A BIG BOX on the front of the first page on their CDC WEB site....


just let us know the number....stop playing with statistical manipulations....

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:40 PM
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17. Hardly anyone near me has had it this year
It's part of the game plan to hype the vax with percieved shortages and bandwagon tactics (long lines, news personalities getting thier shots on air.) Nobody works that hard to sell an effective product with little competition.

It's funny how the groups reccomended to get the flu vax keep expanding. Pregnant women are supposed to get it these days (even though some of the shots contain mercury) when long long ago when I was pregnant (LK isn't quite four) pregnant women were to avoid it. Likewise, babies weren't supposed to get it way back in the dark ages when LK was a baby, now they are. Healthy adults, too. (HTF are healthy adults at any particular risk from the flu?) It's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:51 PM
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19. LOTS of people sick here in DC....guess we'll pass it along to bush*
minions, showing up for the re-selection charade.....all those rich bushites will pick up a nasty case of the FLU, as they eat food served by their FLU victims and sleep in hotel rooms cleaned by their flu victims....

hope they remember that the FLU is a gift from bush*...may they all sneeze on each other at their balls and shake hands with other sicko's....

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:17 PM
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28. Cough on a few for me, okay?
Assuming that doesn't make one a bioterrorist and land them in ClubAchmed on sunny Guantanamo Bay or something.
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MiataCn Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:47 PM
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18. Very light flu season here
in Palm Beach. I'm an RN here and we're not seeing alot of flu this year. Weather's so warm this winter.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:58 PM
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21. Don't know what we got going around here in Hennepin and Wright
counties in MN, but many sick people. I do home hospice and go to many facilities they have both a GI bug and URI's galore. I am lucky mine has stayed out of my chest so far. I ache all over. I am living for my next dose of Nyquil.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 07:56 PM
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20. I've never had the flu or a flu shot.
Quite frankly I think getting a shot does more harm than good. Everyone I know who gets one ends up sick as a dog, screw that.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:14 PM
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27. I've had the real flu, it sucks. But have never had shots for it.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:00 PM
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22. Folks...it's January, We ALWAYS have the flu in January. Don't buy
into the media fear-mongering about this, please.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:04 PM
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DownNotOut Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:42 PM
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33. OK OK.... it was just a joke....
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:19 PM
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29. CDC says it's at "baseline" and "below normal"
The proportion of patient visits to sentinel providers for influenza-like illness (ILI) is at the national baseline and the proportion of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza is below the epidemic threshold. The first influenza-associated pediatric death was reported during week 1. Eight states and New York City reported widespread influenza activity, 12 states reported regional influenza activity, and 10 states reported local activity. Twenty states, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico reported sporadic influenza activity.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 08:38 PM
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32. I don't know one person who has had it this year, I think I heard
this is a light or late or both flu season
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