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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:18 AM
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Bush volunteered for Vietnam?
I woke up this morning and the TV was playing Foxnews. They were bashing Rather and I swear to God this yahoo said that the independent report revealed that Bush had actually volunteered to go to Vietnam when he was in the Guard.

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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:20 AM
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1. Those records are so compromised, they could probably put it in.
Ridiculous, but these guys are great at re-writing history. Look what they did to/for Reagan.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:21 AM
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2. They are going to change history again?
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:25 AM
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5. not at all. You see,
Bush was actually IN vietnam at the time he was supposed to be reporting to duty for air national guard. He was so moved by the plight of the vietnamese people that he went there personally heal the sick and wounded and dying and hand out food and set up orphanages.

It's just those damn evil liberals who intentionally lost all his paperwork so they could try to claim that he was AWOL.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:26 AM
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6. Right!
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:32 AM
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12. That's right! How could I have forgotten?
Wasn't that about the time he received his first Nobel prize for father of the year?

"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go to war."
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:24 AM
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3. He checked the box for no overseas service, IIRC
Oh wait, he DID go. Got a purple heart and some other medals too!
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ChairOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:49 AM
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18. Yah, but his whole crew....
... came forward and told the world whata wuss he was - and a butcher too!

lol

131st chickenhawk brigade...
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NoStinkinBadges Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:24 AM
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4. Ridiculous!
Sounds like Fox may have been producing documents also?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:27 AM
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7. More likely, he volunteered to get serviced in Thailand.....nt
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:27 AM
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8. In Bizarro World, sure.
In Bizarro World, Bush is a self-made man, a Democrat who actually has a clue what's good for his people. Bizarro Bush was a decorated Vietnam veteran after a tour of about 4 years. He had an IQ of 150 and graduated Yale summa cum laude with a 4.0 GPA. He entered politics on the left of the spectrum, becoming a crusader for the working man. He was elected President in 2000 with 60% of the popular vote.

Sounds good doesn't it?
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Chef Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:34 AM
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14. Oh Oh Purple Hearts
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 11:38 AM by Chef
You forgot the purple hearts he earned. The swift boat people can confirm this, I'm sure. A great accomplishment considering his cocaine usage. Also, as some voter in NY said, "He has dirt under his fingernails". The old Soviet revisionists and Orwell's Ministry of Truth had nothing on these guys for flushing things down the memory hole.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:39 AM
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16. summa cum lousy
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Chef Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:28 AM
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9. Dodger
As you may remember, in his personnel file, released by the WH, he specifically said no to overseas duty. In addition, in his biography, he made the statement that he wanted to avoid Viet Nam, and didn't want to injure himself so as to avoid service there. Thus, he "joined" the Guard. Quite plainly, he is a feckless shirker.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:28 AM
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10. The "beauty" of the falsified documents...
...is that ANY *REAL* records will be discounted...

Nice job, Karl.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:30 AM
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11. ...But we needed him for stateside service more
If they had let Buxh fly combat in Vietnam ...It would have been cruel to the Cong.
Hahahaha
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:32 AM
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13. This is from last year, from a retired Colonel Ed Morrisey
Who claimed to know a lot about shrub's record:
"The Air Force, in their ultimate wisdom, assembled a group of 102's and took them to Southeast Asia. Bush volunteered to go. But he needed to have 500 hours, but he only had just over 300 hours so he wasn't eligible to go,”

Is it true? Who knows?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:37 AM
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15. The only references I could find to Col Morrisey were Right Wing Blogs.
Do you have another source for this story? Any background on the Colonel?

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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:39 AM
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17. Not much, look here:
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:53 AM
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19. So since they're worse than CBS (since their basic premise is wrong)...
...who's getting fired?
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:06 PM
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20. When he landed on the carrier
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 12:20 PM by stanwyck
with the infamous "Mission Accomplished" banner (which my wingnut brother in law insisted was handmade by the sailors and their idea, not Karl Rove's... and not professionally produced by the White House)Faux referred to Bush's days "as a Viet Nam fighter pilot".
Tabloid News.
By the way, the White House did produce the banner. It was not the work of exuberant sailors. But, then, my brother in law is wrong more often than he is right. He listens to Rush.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:13 PM
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21. Well, this is Faux.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:15 PM
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22. No.
And who sneaks in while you sleep and changes your Teeeee-Veeeee to FAUXNOOZ?
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:32 PM
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24. That will be the first question asked when I get home. LOL!
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:45 PM
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26. The goldfish?
:D

Need to leave a copy of "Stupid White Men" out where the maintainence people can find it...
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:48 PM
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27. The turtle maybe.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:16 PM
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23. Yeah, And They Said No!
He supposedly brought up the subject. No official request. His CO said no, he wouldn't recommend him for combat duty. Case closed.

He "wanted" to go to combat but his CO thought he was insufficiently capable. Now he's the CinC. Go figure.
The Professor

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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:35 PM
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25. Well, the yahoo didn't elaborate, of course.
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kcass1954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:58 PM
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28. I heard this before...
On the morning of 2/23/04, I was on my way to work and had NPR on the radio. Junior's campaign manager (can't remember the name or exact title) stated very clearly that Junior had volunteered to go to VietNam, but wasn't accepted. I almost wrecked my car!

I'm not sure what your memories are of that era, but I have a pretty clear recollection that as long as you were physically and/or mentally capable, they weren't turning down any volunteers.

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