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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:46 PM
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If The Pukes Go Nuclear On The Filibuster Rules...
can the old-fashioned filibuster still be used???

If a Senator gets the floor and speaks for hours on end, and only yields the floor to like minded travelers, what can the majority do to stop it?

Does the chair have the authority to interrupt, and even have the Sergeant-At-Arms remove the filibusterer from the chamber?

And what's to prevent these fascists from eliminating the need for recorded votes? Couldn't they go nuclear again, and rule that the chair can decide on a voice vote alone? The chair being the final arbiter of that voice vote.

A tsunami is heading toward our democratic experiment, no???

:shrug:
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:47 PM
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1. Maybe they'll start arresting leaders who don't shut up.
Or physically removing them from the floor. I don't find it that far-fetched.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:02 PM
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2. I don't either--but I also wonder how social security plans
play into this battle--I mean they might be arrogant enough to think they can piss on liberals on the confirmation issue and then court them on the social security issue. I'd hope not, but maybe.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:20 PM
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3. yes - just not on advice and consent votes - but if they do this
it must be total war - shut down the Senate time..

And I rather like the idea of 4 years of no new laws!
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IStriker Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:38 PM
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5. Not a bad idea. Everybody just go home and see what the gov't can do...
without Democrats present. Could they conduct any business? How many bodies need to be there to have a quorum?
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:44 PM
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6. Dunno About The Senate, But The House Was Trying To Change The...
quorum rules this morning. Using the excuse of...... (drum roll)

NATIONAL SECURITY!!!

"What if we have a mass terrorist attack on the congress?" one asked.

My answer, "What if there was a mass terrorist attack that killed off enough rePukes to give the Dems a majority?"

How would they like they're new quorum rules then???

:grr:
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BRLIB Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:28 PM
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4. Loyalty oaths are not required,
yet. And then if they get in and turn on $%^&, there's Guantanamo.
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:04 PM
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7. I think the old-fashioned filibuster is the only real kind
The recent judicial appointee filibusters, where a Senator simply threatens to filibuster, but doesn't actually do it is a fairly new phenomenon.

There's been lots of talk by the Pugs to actually make us filibuster, which is a painful experience for all involved, but as yet they've just given up and tried a cloture vote w/o our guys doing any real filibustering.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:15 PM
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8. Interesting History Of The Filibuster Here:
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