Considering that sex is what God made us to do...

[jayctravis]

perhaps a discussion could be argued for giving ground on abortion if similar ground of responsible sex education in health classes and the complete "desinnification" of contraception could be discussed.

Life is sacred, but so is Love.

[purduejake]

1. I'm not giving any ground.

Are you a woman? Just wondering if you are offering away some of your rights or somebody else's.

[jayctravis]

3. I'm just proposing discussion.

I'm male, so I do apologize if I've offended you.

Of course this is the type of thing our female government should handle, and I would agree that the boys club should keep their hands off.

[purduejake]

5. Discussion is good.

And you didn't offend me. I was just kind of wondering because I am a little sensitive when we talk about giving ground because it has proven to be a losing strategy (even though Kerry really won). It's often much easier to give ground on something that you don't think will directly affect you. That's all I meant to suggest.

And, no, men should fight for the rights of women and vice versa. We all should know that when one group starts loosing rights, it threatens the rights of everybody else.

[MsConduct]

13. Sorry, but I don't want the government handling my body. Yes,

people should practice responsible sex. There is almost nothing as sad as an unwanted child, or the parent who didn't want the child in the first place. If all the pro-lifers out there were going to adopt all the unwanted babies, there probably would be any need for abortions.

[chicagojoe]

2. This won't happen. Right to choose. Period.

The Radical Right WILL NOT get their way. Period.

[jayctravis]

4. I agree.

I also would (as a potential male half of a couple) would prefer to prevent contraception than terminate a pregnancy. I'm not sure the fundamentalists know that we *are* on their side in that abortion is not a situation approached lightly.

But my point is...humans want to have sex. We have special God-given parts for that, and an hormonal urge. Perhaps their point is they believe it a sin to want sex but not want children.

"Be fruitful and multiply" but we have the intelligence to nurture and foster plants that we like. I'm not speaking final solution/eugenics, I'm speaking getting to know someone you wish to have children with relationship-wise *involves* having sex with them to see if you want to partner with them for the rest of your life. Who hasn't thought they knew a person only to have that suddenly and abruptly one-eighty?

[purduejake]

6. Now I am in total agreement with your last post.

:) People will have sex before marriage. Freepers, liberals, and apathetic people all do it but some are more likely to "admit" it than others. (As if it's something to be ashamed of, when I don't think it is.)

edit: original subject: "Now we are in total agreement with your last post" I didn't mean to sound like I was speaking for others.

[Cronus Protagonist]

11. Sex has nothing to do with marriage and neither does having children

Just in case you don't know that, because it appears you've accepted both of these red herrings from the right wing propaganda echo chamber.




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[OneBlueSky]

7. wonder what God meant as the purpose of puberty? . . .

I mean, sexual maturation would seem to indicate that God was sending a signal . . . he wouldn't put all those raging hormones into teenagers and then expect them not to use them, would he? . . . in past civilizations, puberty was the indication that a person was ready for sex and marriage, and 14-year-old brides were common . . . as exemplified fictionally, for example, by "Romeo and Juliet" . . .

so the question becomes . . . are we not thwarting God's will by prohibiting teens from having sex? . . . and doesn't "Abstinence Only" therefore contradict what God intended of her creations? . . .

just wondering . . . :shrug:

[jayctravis]

8. discussion...discussion...

and wouldn't homosexuality be a natural population curb?

Yeah, I know, they hate fags, thought I'd throw it out there though.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

9. let me guess, you are a man right?

let me guess, you must be a man, because, it takes a man to think maybe the right to self determine what will happen to your own body should maybe be given up by women as a compromise.

[Az]

10. As soon as you sign into law that a woman's body is not her own

Then we can talk. Till then you nor anyone else gets to say what a woman does with her body.

[Cronus Protagonist]

12. Don't encourage them

You know they want it.




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[Kablooie]

14. I would definitely get an abortion, legal or not

If I got pregnant, it would disturb me so much that I would have the fetus removed immediately.

Of course, I'd probably feel different if I were female.