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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:40 PM
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Bush daughters vs Clinton Gore Kerry daughters
Which daughters would you be most proud of?
(Sorry, I'm not poll-worthy.)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:43 PM
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cyn2 Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:45 PM
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2. Kerrys, without a doubt
I don't know anything about the Gore daughter, and Chelsea seems cool, but I haven't heard her speak much. Kerry daughters are smart, articulate and present themselves as very professional, thoughtful, and caring. I like the way they dress (even the Cannes dress) and I think they would be good representatives of this country.

The Bush girls.....what can I say? They look and act like hussies (no offense to Maureen Dowd).
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:58 PM
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7. Totally Agree
Kerry's daughters are both very smart,professional, thoughtful and caring women. Vanessa reminds me of her dad alot. Chelsea has turned into a very pretty lady as well but I still pick the Kerry girls over her. As far as the Bushies I describe their attitudes, looks ,and ideas with two words TOTALLY GROSS!
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 09:08 PM
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15. There are three Gore daughters.
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 09:09 PM by CBHagman
Karenna Gore Schiff seems most likely to get into public life; she went to law school and also advised her father. Kristen Gore (or Kristin? I've seen both spellings) has been a TV writer and has a novel out, "Sammy's Hill." I haven't been following Sarah Gore and couldn't tell you anything about her.

The Gores generally seem to have turned out well and remained a close family, although there have been some very public problems, such as lone son Albert getting arrested for DUI. But hey, that shouldn't stop him being president and/or vice president! As a child, though, he said he thought his sisters would be more likely to get into politics than he would.

As for the Kerry-Heinz family, it just KILLS me that so much ink and airtime was devoted to vilifying Teresa Heinz Kerry when it appears that she took parenting very seriously and did all the things that the GOP is SUPPOSED to be doing with its children, such as limiting TV time and junk food. Every profile I've read suggests that THK was a strict mother. Her sons seem to have turned out well, from what I can gather.

Contrast that with the press's effusive praise of Laura Bush, who was a stay-at-home mother, too, but who produced a very different family. Why is it that no matter what the Bush family does, the press applauds as though it were some kind of magnificent achievement? What's wrong with this country?
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:47 PM
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3. Cate Edwards wins this round...


sigh...
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rabbit2484 Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:54 PM
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6. Without a doubt!
And I have an FW sticker and everyone I know loves it.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:55 PM
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11. I think I heard that Cate Edwards was valedictorian of HS class and an
honors graduate at Princeton.

I'd be proud of her if she were my daughter.
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vinnievin777 Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:51 PM
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4. There is no comparison
Just look at how they talked about their families at the conventions.
The Kerry daughters were sweet and talked lovingly of their family the Bush daughters made bad jokes about theirs.

Vinnie Vin
http://www.vinnievin.com
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vinnievin777 Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:53 PM
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5. oh my bad -sometimes I am blind
They are are worthy of praise

Vinnie Vin
http://www.vinnievin.com
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:12 PM
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10. All the Democratic daughters wonderful representatives -
and I don't say this without careful examination of their words and behavior and clothes.

Bush girls just make me want to take a shower. They are a nightmare.
With a dopey acting Stepford wife mother, and an allaround dopey clueless Dad, they don't have a chance. I don't think they have what it takes to recognize the situation and take charge of change.
Draft them.
That's a good start.

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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 09:10 PM
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16. The Convention Speeches
You're absolutely right! I was so moved by Vansessa and Alexandra's speeches during the Democratic Convention. I especially loved the story Alexandra recounted of her Dad driving her back to college, and the lessons of life he was teaching her then.

The Bush girls' so-called comedy routine was downight trashy and embarrasing. I heard Karen Hughes wrote a lot of it, though.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:03 PM
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8. there is no comparison zilch snorch zorch
clintons, kerrys, gores, all class acts. bushes i don't know how to say it... trailor park trash comes to mind.
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:03 PM
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9. Bush daughters get into the news
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 06:08 PM by madison2000
when they are thrown out of somewhere or get in trouble for underage drinking. These are the spawn of our alcoholic, but now supposedly born again president. They seem more like frat party girls than Campus Crusaders. Their speeches about their father would have been cute if they were 13 instead of 22. Of course they're probably intellectually well below the curve, so we shouldn't expect much.

Look at Chelsea- she graduated from Stanford without getting into the news once for any kind of trouble. She's poised and intelligent, genuinely interested in world affairs, the best of both her parents.
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nine23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 07:03 PM
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12. To be honest, this thread just kinda' saddens me...
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 07:54 PM by nine23
The lost opportunity, the potential...what could have been...

Kerry's daughters are bright, intelligent, focused, independent career women. Vanessa's in med school; Alexandra's an AFI grad/doc filmmaker (I'm an editor/sound mixer - big cosmic schwing for me right there)...what a great first family they would have made. Both daughters are "easy on the eyes", not that that's such a big deal.

Chelsea Clinton? Even the poncey, monied, titled snobs at Oxford warmed up to her...she became "one of the gang" down at the local after class and never once ended up in the UK tabloids, at least not for lewd, crass behavior.

The Bush spawn? It's all been said in this thread. Texas "morals/hypocrisy" in the flesh. Not to mention dull and ineffectual on all levels.

What saddens me is if Kerry was elected, the US image abroad would've changed overnight. The whole package as a first family: respect restored. Forget for a moment how Kerry would've handled Iraq - respect would have returned to the White House.

Now I'm just freakin' sad again. This was supposed to be about babes: NOT. Whoever started this thread: thanx alot.

By the way, I'm Canadian. This isn't my "first-family-that-wasn't-to-be". But that's beside the point. It's all just so fucking sad...


add on edit: As you can tell, I adored Kerry's daughters. Did I mention that?



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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 07:16 PM
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13. This is comparing a box of rocks to class that rocks
The spawn of Chimpus Khan are what they are .... fruit fallen not far from the tree.

The collective Dem daughters (and even a few Repub daughters of the past) are generally class acts ... poise, manners, grace, and above all, intelligence. Look at the Kenney women. Look at the Johnson women. Look at Amy Carter. Look at Eleanor Mondale. Look at the Nixon daughters. Look at the sons, too. Ron Regan. Jimmy Carter's son (sorry, his first name escapes me, but he's involved in a worthwhile cause in the footprints of his father). JFK, Jr before the tragedy. And on and on .....

No, most of the children of the political class are at the very, very least acceptable. It is simply the spawn of the Khans of all generations that are so disgusting. Not only the twins .... look at their cousins, such as the wonderful little princess, Noel. Look even up a generation to the siblings and cousins of Chimpus.

That whole family is a stain on our nation - not because they're trash, but because they're famous trash. Landmark Trash, if you will.

But trash none the less.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 08:38 PM
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14. Bush V. Clinton/Gore/Kerry Daughters
I don't want to be in the habit of speaking ill of the children of politicians, but I must say I would be more proud of our Democratic daughters.

I think it's admirable that Jenna and Barbara wanted to campaign for their dad, but they also contradicted themselves. Whenever you saw them on C-span, campaigning for their dad, they kept saying this was the most important election of our lifetime, and it was soooooo important that their dad was 'reelected.' (Never mind that he wasn't elected in the first place). Yet, during their awful speech at the Republican Convention, Barbara said "Jenna and I are really not very political," but they couldn't let the campaign go by without speaking out for their dad.

That is a contradiction. You go to these college campuses to campaign, saying what an important race this was. But HOW do you know it's such an important race if you are not very political? If you're not political, you're not keeping up with the issues of the day.
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