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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:32 PM
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Just got off the phone with Rep. Ron Paul's office NFI passed Sat.
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 04:36 PM by Melodybe
That's right folks the New Freedom Initative fucking passed in the Senate on Saturday!

It is now mandatory for states to use federal funding to screen your children for mental disabilities and drug them. It is a precursor for ALL Americans to be tested!

You can call his office yourself, here is the number for the capital hill switch board:
1 800 839 5276

Ask to speak to Rep. Ron Paul.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:34 PM
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1. Oh man. What an Orwellian title...
...given the record of this gang, it's neither "New" or an "Initiative" or has anything to do with "Freedom".
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:36 PM
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2. Wait until our Democrats figure what they just voted for.
Read it, it is scary. But it sounds good on the surface. It has huge terrifying implications. I want to know who voted for it.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/newfreedom/
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:42 PM
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4. Segways for everybody!!
Called on Congress to fund his New Freedom Initiative budget requests, including $145 million for: (1) competitive grants to provide additional transportation services for Americans with disabilities, increasing their access to the job market; and (2) a pilot program to demonstrate innovative solutions for transportation problems that prevent many people with disabilities from living more independently.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:43 PM
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5. And put them on anti-psychotic drugs if they disagree
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:49 PM
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6. No more homebound Medicare folks!
We'll fix them.

Announced a clarification of Medicare policy to ensure that people with severe disabilities considered "homebound" under Medicare home health requirements are able to leave their homes occasionally without the risk of losing their Medicare coverage

Read between the lines. They are not prevented from leaving their homes now. In other words, they will work in spite of severe disabilties.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:37 PM
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3. Feminine Protection?
New Freedom is (or was) the name of a brand of sanitary pad. Strange.
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ilovenicepeople Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:56 PM
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7. Thanks for the confirmation (I TOLD YOU SO!)
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 04:59 PM by ilovenicepeople
Now will people stop saying "I didn't see it on Fox News it can't be true." But there will always be those that would even deny it after the drugs have been shoved down their throats.

ON EDIT:seeing as this was my 666th post I would just like to say FUCK YOU SATAN,YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO FOOL ME!!
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MatrixEscape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:12 PM
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8. A very sad day ....
Indicative of things to come?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:15 PM
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9. Hope the Soma's some good shit
I'm gonna need some heavy-duty pharmaceuticals to make it through the coming horrorshow.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:18 PM
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10. What's the worry?
Every child left behind is so grossly underfunded, why do you think the states will suddenly have the money to do this screening?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:37 PM
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17. Because it will benefit the drug companies
When it comes to helping his "base", Bush will make sure it is funded.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:59 PM
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24. Ahhhhh very valid point
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:18 PM
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11. How will they force people to be tested?
If I had a kid, there's no way in hell I'd let anyone from the government test them for mental illness!
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:35 PM
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15. Oh, they'll tie it to graduation, or school certification, or transcripts
They'll find some way to ram it in, break it off and tell us that "it's good for you!"
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yankeeinlouisiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:38 PM
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19. They'll set aside an hour
or so during the school day for children to take the test. Then when they move to the general population, you'll have to find time to take the test. Maybe it will come with your census form or maybe you'll have to attach a copy of your results with your tax returns. They'll find a way, if we don't stop them now!!

:mad:

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 11:05 PM
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Good point
no one is taking parental rights away. As so many have said, read it. It clearly says that only kids who need care will be screened.

I think you guys are making too much of this. And I see it as a positive step in solving a big problem of inadequate care for the mentally ill.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 11:05 PM
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25. Good point
no one is taking parental rights away. As so many have said, read it. It clearly says that only kids who need care will be screened.

I think you guys are making too much of this. And I see it as a positive step in solving a big problem of inadequate care for the mentally ill.
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:21 PM
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12. Link?
I'd like to see the legislation as passed on Saturday.

The link to the 'New Freedom Initiative" posted above refers to a bill passed in 2001 I believe
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:25 PM
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13. Anyone ever see the movie Equilibrium?
Or THX 1138? I thought it was art imitates life not the other way around...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:36 PM
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16. The 2004 version is linked on the right in pdf form.
.
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hollywood926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:33 PM
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14. www.senate.gov
****It is now mandatory for states to use federal funding to screen your children for mental disabilities and drug them. It is a precursor for ALL Americans to be tested!******

Have you read the bill? Could you please find where it says it is mandatory for states to drug your children without your permission?

Loons...I spend all day arguing about how Dems are more reasonable and logical than our political opponents...and then I read these lunatic rants and I can argue no more!
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:38 PM
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18. I just got off the phone with Republican State Representative Ron Paul
office and it was confirmed, I am calling other senators as we speak.

Since when do we get to see all the legislation, I thought Cheney's energy commision meetings should be open to the public too, but alas that is not the case.

With the number of republican parents that will go apeshit about this, why do you think that they would make it main stream media story?
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:39 PM
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20. Stripping away the rhetoric...do you support this? If so, why?
eom
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:42 PM
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21. Fuck no, why would anyone?
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 05:45 PM
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22. Bush plan to test ALL Americans already in the works
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 05:47 PM by Carl Brennan
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:09 PM
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23. does the word "eugenics" ring a bell? . . .
given that this is a Bush administration initiative, it's scary as hell . . . the eugenics movement has a prominent place in Bush family history, and who's to say what they'll end up calling a "mental illness?" . . . how long before they include homosexuality? . . . and what will be the prescribed treatment? . . .

call your Congressman and Senators tomorrow! . . . this is something that needs to be stopped before it gets started . . .
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 11:08 PM
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26. Good now all the fundies will be targeted as nutbags.
Because they are delusional.
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