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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:12 AM Original message |
OUTRAGE!! Lawmaker: "Priest asked me to quit choir" for being a Democrat |
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TexasChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. What the eff his happening to this country? Are these "fake" Christians |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Clearly. I don't even recognize this place since 2000. n/t |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
53. If this were a movie, it would be called: |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
172. This is why I keep writing about this... |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
3. I think that church needs to pay taxes and help pay down the debt |
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flygal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:41 AM Response to Reply #3 |
22. Right on the button!! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
107. Good Idea! This could be |
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Megook (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 05:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
170. Amen |
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Poll Ally (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
180. Universities should be paying taxes too... |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
187. I am also sick of those pulpit-dwelling welfare queens |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
4. Pedophilia |
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fishnfla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
103. i dont think a priest refer to children "behind the scenes" |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
5. This is getting freaking ridiculous! |
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mhr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
6. Expect More Of The Same - We Will Have To Go Truly Underground |
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floridadem30 (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
7. Did anyone see the priests on C-span today? They told Specter to repent. |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Considering he's a Jew.......... |
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laheina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:37 AM Response to Reply #12 |
36. Oy! |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
188. Maybe they'll pray for his soul as they're burning him at the stake |
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kysrsoze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 09:06 AM Response to Reply #7 |
199. Yeah, that was crazy. Well, like I always say...Fuck the Catholic Church! |
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maveric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
8. Andover is a wealthy repug town. bu$h people. |
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Kathy in Cambridge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
34. Andover isn't THAT Republican |
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maveric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:43 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Then its changed a lot since I last lived in that area. |
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reefer (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:52 AM Response to Reply #8 |
62. Andover voted for Kerry! |
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Doohickie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
9. I would like to invite |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
10. And this is in "Liberaland".......... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Which makes it all the more odious |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:34 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Fuck the Catholics, and every last Fundie! |
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Poll Ally (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
182. Mayor Flynn |
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selmo7 (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:58 AM Response to Reply #10 |
25. Happened to be in Andover tonight |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:06 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Of course, also home of Phillips Andover |
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kimchi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:31 AM Response to Reply #25 |
71. I would LOVE to hear Starhawk speak! |
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CatBoreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
96. Saw her talk in... |
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jackster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
126. I live in Andover... |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
11. That must have been traumatic. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:13 AM Response to Reply #11 |
32. You are correct, religion has become a political movement |
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hyperium (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
13. where's that analysis |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Welcome to DU, hyperium! |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
86. yeah, but I like separation of church and state |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #86 |
156. The church making political hay like this is also a bad idea |
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Megook (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 05:12 PM Response to Reply #86 |
173. So are churches trying to control the state, |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:27 PM Response to Reply #86 |
190. I l ike separation of Church and State - that's why they SHOULD BE TAXED. |
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selmo7 (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
14. What's wrong with people? |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
135. Gives me an idea-- |
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selmo7 (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 12:19 AM Response to Reply #135 |
191. yuup and sadly that IS how it translates to me - |
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kokomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
15. When John Kennedy was running, the Church promised to butt out. |
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selmo7 (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:07 AM Response to Reply #15 |
28. and Pope John 23rd also rolls in his grave believe me - |
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bumblebee1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
38. JFK-1960 |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
105. Actually it was JFK who basically told people that he wasn't too observant |
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The Zanti Regent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
17. CLEAN UP YOUR ACT MR. CLEARY! |
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Senator Lamb (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. well, think of the bright side |
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The Zanti Regent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:37 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Secession looks better every day! |
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President Jesus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
41. sure...but this took place in New Hampshire! |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
157. I'm with you |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
114. except for guns, and bombs. oh and voting machines :~) |
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Kathy in Cambridge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
21. My sister and her husband will be moving to Andover on Monday |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:55 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Have your sis email Rep. L'italien with support |
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fnottr (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
24. Why don't they realize you can be against abortion and still pro choice? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:59 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Not yet. But I have seen a call for 10 Commandments being codified.... |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. The death penalty for one |
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fnottr (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:13 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. To be fair |
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Cat Atomic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
30. Okay... how about capital punishment and unprovoked war? |
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Kathy in Cambridge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
35. The article says Father Cleary is new to the parish |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:41 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Yeah, brand new |
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Technowitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:51 AM Response to Original message |
40. And they won't call a Repug a sinner for advocating capital punishment? |
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Sleepless In NY (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:21 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Will the Church be asking Arnold & George Pataki to |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 05:09 AM Response to Original message |
43. As a politician, she is publicly defying the Catholic Church's |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:27 AM Response to Reply #43 |
58. wrong, wrong, wrong |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. but by claiming that you cant be pro choice and Catholic the |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:52 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. I agree |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:01 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. yep..(M |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:53 AM Response to Reply #61 |
83. That's what the Protestant reformation was all about. |
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CatholicEug (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
113. This is only partially true |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:27 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. but if it is an informed conscience then even if it |
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agarrett1 (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:28 PM Response to Reply #61 |
118. Hate to tell you, |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:36 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. you confusing catholic principals w/infallible beliefs. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
88. "logic to priests disciplining such parishioners" |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:44 PM Response to Reply #88 |
166. I'm picturing that S & M confessional lol |
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VOX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 05:20 AM Response to Original message |
44. If anyone would like to voice their opinion to Father William M. Cleary... |
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whirlygigspin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 05:40 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. contact your Bishop |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 05:25 AM Response to Original message |
45. If I were in her place, |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 06:09 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I knew two women ministers who felt God had called them to that |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
48. even though i officially left the christian faith a couple years ago |
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hollowdweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
49. Would they do the same to somebody who had lied? What about |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
50. I would suggest it's the pastor who should step down... |
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CarbonDate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
51. I'm sorry, Christian DUers.... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #51 |
90. no this is the face of one catholic Priest |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:21 PM Response to Reply #90 |
112. Who, as a practicing Catholic, do (with many other moderates |
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GOPFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
98. AMEN! |
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m berst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #51 |
169. I am sorry American DU-ers... |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
52. haha sucker! |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:38 PM Response to Reply #52 |
101. Glad To See That We Agree... |
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tanyev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
54. Here's the worst hypocrisy of all: |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
55. I hope she's working within that church to oust that pastor. |
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bostonbabs (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:17 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. 65 parishes in ma. already have closed |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #57 |
75. Instead of giving up on the church and acting like you are GLAD parishes |
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PatrickHenry (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
56. Time to revoke those churches tax-exempt status. |
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VTHoosierPatriot (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:36 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Doesn't matter they'll just make up for it in faith-based initiative funds |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
59. to be fair not all priest are like this.. |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #59 |
68. I think it's time for our Pope to have some of his ranking |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #68 |
93. don't blame Protestants for the acts of your church |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:37 PM Response to Reply #93 |
100. I was raised SB in the rural south and I very aware of what |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #93 |
109. Oh gosh, these rogue priests do NOT represent the true Catholics ... |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
65. Stop putting money in the collection plate too. |
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Riven (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
66. Priest Was Correct!! |
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tanyev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. OK, but he was still willing to give her |
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Butterflies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:19 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Nope |
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CatholicEug (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #69 |
119. The Church has |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. nope you are incorrect.. |
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Riven (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Wrong... |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. they should poll everyone then... |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #73 |
79. I have extensively..would you like links to the canon law that |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:48 PM Response to Reply #73 |
143. Since the Bible |
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FighttheFuture (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 07:31 PM Response to Reply #143 |
176. Have to get an annulment... cost $$$ |
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FighttheFuture (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 07:44 PM Response to Reply #176 |
177. What I find so hypocritical is what they did to Kerry, and others [sic]... |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #70 |
116. Exactly! For a person of 44 posts, I like you :-). |
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the other rick (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 08:49 AM Response to Reply #70 |
195. Primacy of conscience is one thing |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 11:05 AM Response to Reply #195 |
201. I completely disagree. She is not teaching against the church.. |
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the other rick (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 01:13 PM Response to Reply #201 |
204. Sorry |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 01:38 PM Response to Reply #204 |
206. she is not in conflict with church teaching. |
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the other rick (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 01:44 PM Response to Reply #206 |
207. Sorry again |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #207 |
210. I am glad you have a degree...all that means is that you |
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the other rick (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 02:32 PM Response to Reply #210 |
211. Wasn't trying to impress you.... |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 02:47 PM Response to Reply #211 |
213. and again he was the one who cause the public scandal so he is the one |
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the other rick (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #213 |
215. Please. |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #66 |
78. To Be Fair |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:58 AM Response to Reply #66 |
84. How can so many people, yourself included, be so delusional? |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:12 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. I know I wonder that as well... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:06 PM Response to Reply #84 |
159. hey now |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 02:59 PM Original message |
What's hash? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:28 PM Response to Reply #66 |
95. yeah right... is he doing the same to republicans who are supporting |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #66 |
111. Where did you come from ... The Priest is out of line and you know it. |
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m berst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 05:18 PM Response to Reply #111 |
174. not seeing that myself |
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proudncdem (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
115. why is it only abortion that people have to agree with to participate? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #115 |
150. There are other ways to be cast out, but it is generally hard |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #66 |
136. Would they ask war supporters to step down? |
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RebelYell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
72. I'm not surprised |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
76. Cleary probably got the memo |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
77. It is any church's ABSOLUTE right to do that. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #77 |
82. They can't discriminate on the basis of political party affiliation and |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:01 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. That is easily gotten around. |
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proudncdem (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:48 PM Response to Reply #77 |
125. nobody said they were doing anything illegal......just wrong, stupid, etc. |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
80. More "Conservative Correctness" going around. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
81. That's just awful |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #81 |
89. Deleted message |
RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. why would a 21 week scan *re-open* the debate? 21 wks is pretty |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. And so she should choose a new church, and b) |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:35 PM Response to Reply #89 |
99. sorry, but you are wrong |
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Kathryn7 (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:44 PM Response to Reply #89 |
104. New children's book coming out to make kids against abortion |
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PatGund (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 07:45 PM Response to Reply #104 |
178. Don't see it |
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BobF (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
94. This one is easy to fix. |
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CatholicEug (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
97. My views will not make people here happy |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:40 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. nonsense |
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CatholicEug (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:04 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. Equal protection? |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:42 PM Response to Reply #108 |
123. No, you speak with NO authority. You're most likely a |
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CatholicEug (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #123 |
127. Your message makes me laugh |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:23 PM Response to Reply #127 |
139. So you should know... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:31 PM Response to Reply #108 |
141. nonsense again |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:34 PM Response to Reply #97 |
121. no the message is that |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:47 PM Response to Reply #121 |
124. Thank you ... I've been trying to get across what you are aptly |
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CatholicEug (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #124 |
130. Separation of Church and State is all very well and good |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:15 PM Response to Reply #130 |
137. you cant have it both ways... |
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the other rick (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 08:51 AM Response to Reply #137 |
196. In other words |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 11:10 AM Response to Reply #196 |
202. If the church then said if you do or dont do this then I will refuse you |
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the other rick (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 01:06 PM Response to Reply #202 |
203. I must not understand you |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 01:36 PM Response to Reply #203 |
205. If by doing so they are going against another law or belief of their |
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Kathy in Cambridge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 01:47 PM Response to Reply #205 |
208. Bingo! |
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the other rick (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 01:49 PM Response to Reply #205 |
209. I disagree |
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the other rick (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #205 |
212. So.... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #130 |
142. yeah yeah |
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oldcoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #97 |
128. What really puts the Catholic Church in a scandalous light |
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CatholicEug (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #128 |
132. Those who fear a Catholic politician would be controlled by |
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oldcoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #132 |
155. Most people do change their minds |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:55 PM Response to Reply #97 |
144. answer this |
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Kathryn7 (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. Repentance and Confession changes the picture. |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. ??? |
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Kathryn7 (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #146 |
147. The CC considers all sins not the same. Abortion is considered |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:18 PM Response to Reply #147 |
148. there are several exemptions to this law. Check |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #147 |
153. Again, you're |
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Kathryn7 (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #153 |
154. Abortion doesn't get you kicked out if you are repentant. |
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oldcoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:04 PM Response to Reply #154 |
158. Sin vs. law |
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Kathryn7 (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #158 |
161. I won't murder myself, but it should be OK for others to do it. |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. but they dont feel that way about the mother...at least not the |
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tanyev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #158 |
165. Now there you go being all logical and rational. |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #154 |
164. OK, you're now |
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PROGRESSIVE1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
106. All Hell is about to break out. These "THEOFACSISTS" are.... |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
110. Get used to this |
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CatholicEug (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #110 |
120. But this has already happened |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:02 PM Response to Reply #120 |
129. Like everybody else... |
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CatholicEug (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #129 |
133. Au contraire |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #129 |
134. some have...are you aware of the following churches (M |
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Kathryn7 (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #129 |
151. If you split from Rome and the Roman hierarchy |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
131. well we should get use to it. it's only going to get worse. these folks |
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Catfight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
138. Just because she's in favor of not having a law that only punishes women |
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Mike L (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
140. Did she tell him, "NO"? |
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cassiepriam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
149. Will DU be shut down? |
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heidiho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
152. A man at my parish was yelled out when handing out food pantry bags |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
160. Religion |
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jackster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
163. "in favor of abortion" |
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dkofos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
167. More religious nonsense. |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 04:52 PM Response to Reply #167 |
168. because it is my church too..and I would rather stay and fight to |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
171. Must Be One Of Those OPPRESSED Priests... He Felt Threatened? |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
175. This is my state rep, and she is the best! |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:42 PM Response to Reply #175 |
185. And welcome to DU rox! |
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FighttheFuture (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
179. What I find so hypocritical is what they did to Kerry, and others [sic]... |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
181. So what? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #181 |
184. So what??? |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 12:38 AM Response to Reply #181 |
192. Again - be reminded it was not THE Church that asked her to |
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kodi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
183. it is long past time for american catholics to cede from rome |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 12:43 AM Response to Reply #183 |
193. to the contrary - the Pope and the Vatican are the ones being |
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kodi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 11:03 AM Response to Reply #193 |
200. i heard no bishop attack from the pulpit senators who advocated war |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
186. Why would she want to associate with those medieval pedophiles anyway? |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 08:53 AM Response to Reply #186 |
197. you are aware that there have been no pedophile priest aren't you? |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #197 |
220. All priests are guilty... |
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RubyCat (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
189. Over-reaching |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
194. Its time to Grass Roots UnderGround |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
198. Is this a good way to make the Catholic religion popular again |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
214. I just do not understand religion |
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the other rick (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #214 |
216. Holy |
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Kathy in Cambridge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #216 |
217. I'm Catholic, and the charitable Catholics in the US are dwindling |
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the other rick (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #217 |
218. Don't be so sure |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #216 |
219. Oh please.... |
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the other rick (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-19-04 09:11 AM Response to Reply #219 |
221. Need to get out more |
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