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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:51 PM
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My God I finally figured out the media lock down
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 07:54 PM by AIndependentTexan
The point of locking down the media is to let all evidence die. Sean Hannity just said on AAR that you have no proof. If the news isn't reported then the truth gets lost. This is why we must fight. They believe Americans will forget the truth and then the truth will be lost.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:53 PM
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1. also
all hell will break out in amerika when these truths are told
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:54 PM
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3. What truth?
Which one of the many falshoods we live in are you refering to?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:01 PM
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12. Only if people believe it.
At least 59 million people won't.
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helnwhls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:53 PM
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2. dingdingding
you are right on the money.
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bsuz Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:57 PM
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7. Get The Word Out.
There is no one I can talk to. They think I am crazy. They haven't seen it in/on the news. That is why I come to this site. To maintain some semblance of sanity.
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helnwhls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:03 PM
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14. Welcome to DU!
That is why I enjoy DU. I was talking to a friend about the CIA resignations and loyatly oaths. She refused to believ it is happening. With DU I could lead her to news sources.

Again, welcome, good to have you here! :hi:
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bsuz Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:08 PM
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15. To me, it's quite obvious re massive resignations.
All the "sane" people don't want to be implicated when "it all comes down". You have to applaud them for their integrity.
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helnwhls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:09 PM
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18. or they are getting out before they are forced
if you don't sign the loyalty oath ya can't stay. why wait for the brown shirts to escort you out?
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bsuz Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:13 PM
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20. Hopefully "The Deserter's " will help us...
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 08:17 PM by bsuz
All the people that are leaving have a human conscience. They all knew they had to leave ASAP. And you can bet they know a hell of a lot more than any of us.
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Ima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:10 PM
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19. They could be getting pushed out.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:44 PM
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24. I agree with you, Irma......
They are getting "pushed" out. I also believe that George Tenet got "pushed" out, too.

I just wonder how many of the notables "resigning" from the CIA and State Department today will still be alive a year from now.
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Ima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 09:37 PM
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26. I've worked
worked places where the have got people to resign. It's surprising how easy it is to get rid of them. Most people can't take the heat and don't want a bad record.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:54 PM
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4. The "News" has nothing to do with truth any longer
The truth only exists on sites like DU. Of course TV news says that the Internet is a cesspool of conspiracy theory, and only they tell the truth. Apparently the viewers all believe it without question. Quite a paradox huh.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:55 PM
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5. He also stormed out
That was nice....

But you are right, they want us to GET OVER IT, the 2000 election did you notice that this is what Sean told Sam do do over the 2000 election
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:56 PM
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6. They are controlling history.
And the media is a big part of that. I'm waiting for them to start editing museums and destroying evidence of evolution.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:00 PM
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10. they have started
in small places, with news articles....

Yes, the Ministry of Truth is here
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:58 PM
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8. can anyone tell them about bev's post
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bsuz Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:01 PM
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11. Are we turning into the Soviet Union: WHERE ARE THE REPORTERS CARRY CLOUT
Something is very wrong here. Where ARE all the reporters? I have asked this before, and I know it takes time, but COME ON!!
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:08 PM
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16. I am hoping this will be a brief 'honeymoon' period
which traditionally comes after an election - maybe there is a vestige of 'free press' somewhere ready to step forward when the sh** hits the fan bigtime
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 09:06 PM
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25. hiding
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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 07:59 PM
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9. but but but, I thought the truth will set them free.
Isn't that written somewhere?
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:02 PM
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13. erm, that's old news.... n/t
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:09 PM
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17. Uhuh, I would have thought that was obvious, I quit watching all
news outlets after the election, a total waste of my time...
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chelaque liberal Donating Member (981 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:17 PM
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21. Number 6
The 14 Characteristics of Fascism

by Lawrence Britt
Spring 2003
Free Inquiry magazine


Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy.

The 14 characteristics are:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottoes, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.


2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.


3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.


4. Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.


5. Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.


6. Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.


7. Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.


8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.


9. Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.


10. Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .


11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.


12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.


13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.


14. Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.



Copyright © 2003 Free Inquiry magazine
Reprinted for Fair Use Only.




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choicevoice Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:24 PM
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22. my friends, that is why we have to do something they can't ignore
Who has an idea? Think big.
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 08:43 PM
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23. Hannity is such a tool
When I was tuned in, Hannity was whining about how liberals just don't understand that the "religious" voters are just voting their morals, and that the "religious" voters are tired of being ridiculed. Hannity the tool tried to make it seem like liberals were bad for making fun of the "religious" voters.

Then, Hannity proceeded throughout the session to ridicule and mock liberals. What a jackass.

Hannity is such a tool. I am glad I ended my commute in time to turn off the show. I don't like to hear tools like Hannity get so pissy that they walk off rather than respond to claims and facts. (What a whiney little whimp, can't take someone talking back to his B.S.)
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