Just say, the recount favors Kerry, then what?

[Javaman]

civil war?

[spatlese]

1. Then Kerry will be inaugurated! n/t

[library_max]

20. Wait. How will this happen?

The Florida recount eventually showed that Gore won Florida. Was Gore inaugurated?

The state legislatures send their electors to the Electoral College. Anybody here think that the Republican legislatures of Florida and Ohio will send the Democratic electors, even if a recount determines that Kerry won by 10%? Anybody here think that the Republican courts will force them to do so?

The Republicans will cry bullshit no matter what we prove, and the courts and the media and the Florida and Ohio statehouses will back them up. So what's the plan?

[LisaL]

46. It's different because that was not an official recount.

And it was done way after the election.
If third party candidate asks for a recount, and the results show Kerry ahead, they will have to honor this.

[library_max]

47. "Have to"? Who's going to make them?

They'll block it as long as they have to. Any evidence we end up with is going to be anecdotal, because they won't let us get our hands on anything that might change the numbers. Because they won't have to. They didn't have to in 2000 and they don't have to now.

[billyoc]

2. Kerry's inaugurated. n/t

[Hobarticus]

3. Electoral college hasn't convened yet...

...and a concession isn't legally binding.

Am I wrong?

[Javaman]

5. That's true, but honestly, what do you think the reaction from the

right will be? I honestly think they will go apeshit

[ewagner]

7. That's putting it mildly n/t

[ewagner]

8. sorry dupe

[Hobarticus]

9. Totally, unequivically, and abso-freakin-lutely apeshit, my friend...

But, as they say to us, they'll get over it.

Dare to dream.

[cjbuchanan]

15. Yes they will go apeshit, but...

If Kerry won, then he should be president. If they don't like it, then so what.

They will make the next 4 years horrible, but we will just have to fight harder.

[troubleinwinter]

16. they are ape shit anyway

[Glenda]

41. I also think that most of the so-called 59 million...

Are not that thrilled about *, and some may be relieved if the vote is overturned

[goclark]

42. We are going apeshit now

And it is not a good feeling!

I would not give a damn if the go apeshit all day long.
We have got to continue exposing the FRAUD that is happening in our so called free society.

[benito]

The world will be overjoyed

and gun-totin' bubba redneck is gonna be just a little pissed.

[realisticphish]

12. this gun-totin

kind-of redneck will be overjoyed


:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[benito]

19. sorry about the stereotype

I've been bitching about that all week.

[realisticphish]

36. no problem

i understand where people are coming from... and honestly, most people from where i live ARE fundies and RWers


:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

[Walt Starr]

4. If Kerry is certified the winner in Ohio

Kerry becomes the 44th president of the United States on January 20th.

[library_max]

22. Who certifies the winner in Ohio?

Is it the Governor, the Secretary of State, or the legislature?

And do you see the point I'm driving at?

[Walt Starr]

30. The Secretary of State certifies the results of the election

At least, I believe that's the case under Ohio law. It is for most states.

We should probably look closely into the Ohio election statutes for the complete process.

[library_max]

32. So what difference is it going to make what a recount shows?

Unless that recount has the force of law, Blackwell can simply ignore it. And the courts are stacked against us.

[Walt Starr]

33. Nope, Blackwell cannot ignore the offical results

There are laws concerning the certification of the election, and Blackwell will have to follow those laws.

[library_max]

38. How are we going to make the results we find "official"?

Under whose authority?

Remember Kathy Harris in 2000? Blackwell is determined to follow in her footsteps.

Who is going to make Blackwell interpret those laws you refer to fairly and accurately? The Republican governor? The Republican legislature? The Republican courts?

[BootinUp]

6. you wake up and

get out of bed.

Sorry, but I am just not holding out any hope of that scenario. :(

[aquart]

10. Excuse me? Only Republicans are allowed to win?

And we must never disagree no matter what?

[Killarney]

11. It depends on when it gets done. It has to get done

before the election is "certified" which occurs at the end of December.

If Bush is inaugurated in January, there is nothing we can do. After Bush is inaugurated, we can find out that Kerry won 90% of the vote and Bush will STAY President.

[m berst]

13. not about recounts

And not about Kerry. If people's suspicions are correct - and the evidence grows by the day - we are talking about the greatest scandal in our history.

[shance]

17. Yes it IS about John Kerry. Why did he run for office?

That is a question that every Democrat deserves to know.

[m berst]

27. yes

In that sense you are correct.

Before, and more inportant than, that every Democrat knows why Kerry ran, every American needs to know if they will ever have any voice in their government again.

[99Pancakes]

28. I agree

If a huge body of evidence is amassed showing that Fraud took place, that will indeed be the greatest scandal in US History.

Bush will have a helluva time, because we will never let him live it down!

[goclark]

43. Bring on the scandal!

Make it as uncomfortable as possible for him to lead.

Keep the pressure on him.
The think that we will roll over and say nothing.
We can not let them do that to us and to our beliefs.

[onehandle]

14. Nothing. It's pointless.

2006 and 2008, people. If we can take back Congress, the chimp and Dick will be impeached.

[library_max]

23. If they steal this one, what exactly stops them from stealing '06 and '08?

nt

[mlawson]

25. Not one thing.

And that is what worries me the most.

[m berst]

35. Pointless?

Calling for an investigation into the integrity of an election is pointless?

Nothing supports that statement that is consistent with an understanding of and appreciation for freedom. Without freedom, it is pointless to talk about anything else.

[goclark]

44. Right(?) we will never win again if this is not exposed

[Hamlette]

18. the GOP will sue, the supreme court will decide it again

[firebee]

21. If a recount favors Kerry????

For cynical purposes...

We'll have to start www.werenotsorryeitherbitches.com and show pictures of naked lesbians and naked gays kissing each other holding rubber dildos in one hand and Ak-47's in the other.....



...it's just a joke... I was joking... come oonnn... It's just a joke Mr. Freeper.

[Touchdown]

26. I wouldn't be joking.

Want some Polaroids of my neighbors to start with? $50 a piece.:evilgrin:

[Kazak]

24. Re-re-count?

:shrug:

It'll probably come down to Presidential game of paper-rock-sissors...

[Redleg]

29. We gloat like hell!

EOM

[kayell]

31. Then we make sure all the other races, Senatorial etc. get counted

Then we start passing some serious laws with teeth about conflicts of interest in voting machine technology, and required voter verified paper receipts.

[PhuLoi]

34. I vote for civil war.

I'm just that pissed off.

[99Pancakes]

37. We are split evenly enough to have a good chance

at winning a civil war. Problem: Shrub's side has all the guns, remember? glub-glub. Makes me want to start practicing shooting somewhere, even if the only thing I own is a B-B gun.

[Straight Shooter]

39. No civil war. America is purple.

Kerry would take his rightful place as President.

If bush can be connected to cheating, he's a totally lame duck anyway, and taints everything he touches. Mandate? Fuggetaboudit.

[patricia92243]

40. Then what? The Supreme Court will fine some reason to NOT pry Bush out of

the WH.

The reason this election was so importent is that it will be the last one. Republican now and from here on out - with token democrats here and there.

[goclark]

45. So do we just sit and do nothing! Hell no

Even if the Supreme Court does a repeat of '00, that exposes them to the world.
That makes it harder for the MAN dsate to stick!

[library_max]

48. Nobody is listening but us.

It won't even get to the Supreme Court. The Ohio courts are Republican. This won't do thing one to the mandate. It is true that Republicans listen to nobody but each other, but sometimes we do the same, and this is one of those times. There is not a nationwide outcry on this subject, just us. Joe Sixpack, even if he voted for Kerry, "knows" that Bush won the popular vote and the electoral vote.

[noel711]

49. We party!

[restorefreedom]

50. depends on the date...

if before inauguration, maybe a chance to be rectified.

If the Chimperor gets inaugurated, it's over

[aprillcm]

51. No

Contrary to what many reporters and "News" People think just because the press says someone won on election night does not make it so.

The election has to be certified in each state then certified by congress before its official so, if this flips the election the Official results (the ones we are supposed to go by) Make Kerry President he is President. Right now all the results are un-official,meaning the votes have not all been counted and the above steps have not been taken yet.