More Moore? Some Dems are Down on Director

[orangeotter]

More Moore? (Fahrenheit Sequel in the Works, But Is That A Good Thing)

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CNN.com is reporting that Award Winning Film Maker Michael Moore is looking to follow up controversy with controversy with a sequel to the box office success "Fahrenheit 9/11."

"Moore told Daily Variety that he and Harvey Weinstein, the Miramax boss who produced the film, hope to have "Fahrenheit 9/11 1/2" ready in two to three years.

"Fifty-one percent of the American people lacked information (in this election) and we want to educate and enlighten them," Moore was quoted in Thursday's edition of Variety. "They weren't told the truth. We're communicators and it's up to us to start doing it now."

The issues for the follow-up film will remain the same, Iraq and terrorism, Moore said.

"The official mourning period is over today and there is a silver lining: George W. Bush is prohibited by law from running again," Moore said. "

Of course some Democrats would rather have Mr. Moore simply fade away.Democratic strategist Will Marshall was quoted by the Washington Post at a DLC luncheon as blaming problems during the 2004 election cycle on Moore.

“Let’s let Hollywood and the Cannes Film Festival fawn all over Michael Moore. We ought to make it clear he sure doesn’t speak for us when it comes to standing up for our country."...

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[JAbuchan08]

1. Than stand up for it yourself!

You stupid jackass! I'm tired of the higher ups telling me when and to whom I should be polite, and how I'm supposed to act calm in the face of atrocity after atrocity. Pardon me Mr. Marshall, but F*U

[dave29]

3. amen

and amen

[Inland]

5. That's what I said. They haven't anything to say except, blame someone.

And of course, to quote it to the Post to make sure everyone knows how lame and backstabbing our "leaders" are.

[Inland]

2. Are these DLC people paid to be stupid?

All Moore did was show pictures and talk to people, on film. "Doesn't speak for us"---tell us, numbnuts, who DOES speak for us? Nobody. Nobody speaks up at all in the democrat leadership. They hem, haw, and say me too, and blame Moore!

Go find a function. Moore has found his.

[rodeodance]

11. lots of Moore blaming going on--feeds into Repub slime

[mitchtv]

18. change the word Moore to Gays better yet

Moore and Gays.

[IrateCitizen]

24. Yes, they are. And princely sums at that. (nt)

[Zhade]

31. The DLC sure as FUCK does not speak for us!

Reasons To Distrust The DLC

[alittlelark]

4. uh, yeah.....

Wow, I must have been sooooo confused, what a fool I was.......not

[Kipepeo]

6. Shut up Will Marshall

So Marshall just said "We ought to make it clear he sure doesn’t speak for us when it comes to standing up for our country."

Thereby just cementing in the minds of republicans that Moore does in fact speak for us and that we feel he is a liability and so we're trying to distance ourselves.

Great job Marshall, you dumbass.

We should not be running from Michael Moore...it just makes it look like we are afraid of what he is speaking. And what he is speaking is the truth.

When we waste time shitting on people like Moore, we are doing the right-wing's job for them.

[JAbuchan08]

15. Exactly

I don't want Michael Moore to speak for me, but if people presume he does... that's sure as FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, a lot better than having the DLC speak for me.

[Zhade]

33. But Will Marshall ENJOYS doing the rightwingers' work.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraq-20030319.htm

AND

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraq-20030328.htm

[Kipepeo]

37. Oh god, you're kidding me

PNAC ?!?

That jackass does not speak for me.

[Kipepeo]

38. I had no idea

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/ind/marshall/marshall.php

[MamaBear]

7. Since when are the DLC people Democrats?

They hardly deserve the title.

[Downtown Hound]

8. The DNC has got to go

these people are the problem, not the solution. Hey, DNC you won't stand up for jack shit. You caved in to Bush on Iraq, The Patriot Act, voter fraud (twice), and many other things. We all put aside our differences and supported you in this last election, only to be disappointed YET AGAIN. Moore's one of the few who actually are standing up for this country, not you!

[shance]

9. Probably a Republican using the DLC as a pulpit.

Seems to be epidemic in the DLC.

[LiberalCat]

10. So, who does speak for them.

It appears nobody does, except to say "play nice". They can't believe the BFEE does not act on greed and a lust for power?! What insulated world does the DLC live in?!

[hey560]

13. Moore under fire

I don't understand why the DNC is attacking Moore. He did what he could to let the truth on Bush out. If they screwed up, or people dont have all the information it is not moores fault.

[orangeotter]

16. its just another way to pass the buck

on my site i wrote about some people i talked to who specifically changed votes due to it. even if there is some harm its not the problem

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[orangeotter]

17. its just another way to pass the buck

on my site i wrote about some people i talked to who specifically changed votes due to it. even if there is some harm its not the problem

www.otterblog.com

[Hell Hath No Fury]

12. Good ol' Will Marshall...

just one more reason to say, FUCK THE DLC.

:eyes:

[Malva Zebrina]

14. Anything but truth

now Michael Moore is the enemy? What next? Athiests? Witches? Pagans? Gays? Poets? It is obvious which way the DLC is going and it is toward obfuscation, deceit and manipulation declaring artists like Moore the enemy. They just handed over Moore to the Republicans and they will take the ball and run with it.

[JETS]

19. Yeah, Democrats should just be in the middle of the road

However, as Jim Hightower once said, the only thing in the middle of the road are roadkill and yellow stripes."

[leftynyc]

20. Would you happen to have an email address

for this Will Marshall yutz.

[knowbody0]

21. moore is us

[aden_nak]

22. Sadly, the DEMOCRATS don't speak for their party, so others have to.

If the Democratic Party did their god damned job, Michael Moore would still be making documentaries about corperations (his next scheduled project had been a movie about the pharmecutical industry). Why does Michael Moore presume to speak for so many? Or more accurately, why do so many presume Michael Moore speaks for the Left? Because no one else will.

And if you don't like it, change it yourself.

[napi21]

23. Second movie could be more successful than the first.

Remember, we have several years for Shrub's results to play out. More could be the hero when the things he said are proven to be all true.

[Ann Arbor Dem]

25. Oh for pete's sake....

They are just as bad as the repukes in blaming others instead of taking a good, hard look at themselves. He didn't cause those problems. In fact, his film made many, many people realize what has been going on in this country.

Michael Moore will not go away and he shouldn't.

[Abelman]

26. I don't like Michael Moore

But he does cause people to think. OH NO PEOPLE ARE THINKING!!!

Despite my dislike of him, I would never tell someone he gives the DNC a bad image or deny that he helps the liberal cause. I believe his intentions are just and he does what he sets out to do.

[BlueCaliDem]

36. I like Michael Moore

because he's got b***s of brass! I believe that those who don't like him, or even HATE him, don't wanna look in the mirror that is Michael Moore.
Being a liberal democrat, I didn't like reading his books, and watching Fahrenheit 9/11 when he was so hard on the democrats, but you know what? He's proven right.
Had just ONE Democratic senator signed on with the Black Caucus in rejecting the votes for Bush, Al Gore just might've been President in 2000, and over 1100 of our American troops, and maybe 100,000 Iraqi people would still be alive today.
Also, we would've caught Osama bin Forgotten by now too, because Gore wouldn't have shoved aside Pres. Clinton's counterterrorism plans, and perhaps even 9/11 could've been prevented with Richard Clark still at the helm!
Think about it...

[newyawker99]

41. Hi BlueCaliDem04!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Fovea]

27. Note to DLC flak--

Had you flexed a bit more muscle, and shown more spine,
Mr. Moore would not be an issue for you.

The fact that your inaction and Repug lite sensibilities have made you irrelevant has not, alas, made you mute. But now, in a time of crisis, yyou shake your tiny fist at one of the best allies the party had this year. How little of you, how parochial.

[Forkboy]

28. must.....find.....scapegoats

:puke:

[NoPasaran]

32. Last week it was gays, this week Michael Moore

Coming next week: Eminem

[Forkboy]

35. LOL

Dont give them ideas :spank:

[m berst]

29. wish I were a wealthy liberal

Then I could chill, and be positive and stop whining and make chipper and clever little remarks to get everyone to feel happy.

I could forget about the stolen election and the end of democracy, I could forget about the detention camps, I could forget about the torture, I could forget about the death of the Constitution, I could forget about the fearful, terrorized, hungry, desperate people in this country and around the world.

I could focus on the most important thing - my own emotional state and well being.

[Zhade]

30. Will Marshall is also a traitor who signed PNAC letters.

And oh yes, they WERE PNAC letters, not letters that PNAC simply grabbed and placed on their website without any indication they were not PNAC letters, thus fooling many good people into thinking Dems had signed onto their letter.

[orangeotter]

40. it looks like the party might swing their way

wihtout solid leadership keeping it steady

[Zorra]

34. We need to CRUSH the DLC. They are deliberately sabotaging the

Democratic Party and have been doing so since 1984.

They are paid by corporations to destroy our party and make it ineffective, so that we either elect moderate republican legislators (DINOS) or rabid RW republican legislators. Either way, the corporations retain control of the government and the people remain powerless.

And BTW, Will Marshall is a wannabe republican who should never presume to speak for Democrats, because he is not one.

[Q]

39. Marshall is a good example of the kind of 'leadership'...

...running (over) the Dem party. If he were in any way honest...he would blame the Corporate lapdog Media instead of independent film producers. He would complain that the free press is dead...becoming what the founders dreaded: a ministry of propaganda for a corrupt government.

- Moore certainly isn't perfect...but it's apparent he loves America and is willing to do what the Democratic leadership is afraid to do: investigate and speak truth to power.

[seabeyond]

42. ok will marshall, he doesnt stand up for you

but please dont say he doesnt stand upo for me, and that dems as a whole has an issue with moore and want him to go away

all here who like value appreciate and see moores worth raise your hand

mine is held high

[Cat Atomic]

43. I assume "us" means the corporate shills, right Mr. Marshall?

I haven't found myself in disagreement with Michael Moore very often.

[Zhade]

44. I'd listen to MM over that TRAITOR TO DEMS Marshall any day!

You don't fucking cozy up to PNAC, for fuck's sake, and expect not to be labeled what you are: a traitor to democratic ideals.