Hitler said..... (no, really)

[nostalgicaboutmyfutr]

"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life."

Adolf Hitler, My New World Order, Proclamation to the German Nation at Berlin, February 1, 1933

[UpsideDownFlag]

1. ...stop. you're scaring me. nt

[Hubert Flottz]

25. If you think that's scary read Hitler's book sometime!

It's on line if you look!

[Solitaire]

2. scary

[Kerrytravelers]

6. Scary...

...but not surprising.


Here is another quite interesting one to consider:


“Naturally, the common people don’t want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter of drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.”

Hermann Goering, Hitler’s Reich-Marshall at the Nuremberg Trials after WWII

[City of Mills]

3. Joseph Goebbels quote

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."
-- Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945

[Swamp Rat]

4. February is not far off.

[otohara]

8. Scary Picture

but excellent

[Swamp Rat]

27. Thank you

[patricia92243]

5. Hitler believed in Christianity? I didn't know that. Scary stuff.

[madrchsod]

10. Hitler did not believe in Christianity

he believed in -using-religion to gain control of the masses. the state was Hitler`s religion and he used that to crush all who stood in his way. bush uses religion for the same purpose

[abaris]

11. Hitler didn't

though he was a member of the Catholic Church until his death. That didn't prevent him from invoking god when it seemed convenient. In private he said, that he would destroy the churches after the war. And yes, there were many clergymen in Germany eagerly kissing Hitler's butt. It was about the so called values of morality and they did turn a conveniently blind eye on the jews and other persecuted groups. But there have also been a number of clergymen standing up against Hitler. They met their doom in the concentration camps without any help from the pope or the leadership of the Protestant church. In fact, the pope was a known fan of Mussolini, Franco, the Croatian slaughterer Pavelic and a little bit of Hitler too. Especially because he admired his war against the Soviet Union.

[gordianot]

12. When it suited his puposes.

Was a strong advocate of Aryan family values (whatever that is, usually a picture of blond blue eyed underfed in traditional German dress). Professed religion when it suited his purpose. Was also involved in cultish psuedo religion.

I have a picture in a book at home of a group of Austrian and German Bishops giving the Nazi salute.


Sound familiar?

[Kerrytravelers]

15. Well...

Hitler believed in Christianity about as much as any of these Fundamentalists really do. They all clamor on about God and Country, but they all seem to be missing the one true belief of any religion, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc... and that is compassion. Jesus taught love and compassion.

That's what separates a Fundy of any religion from those people who actually believe and understand the religion they claim to follow. Fundies want to control and dictate. In this case, real Christians understand that it is not their position to judge others, but to love them and to treat others with compassion.

True Christians life one another up (as in the case of all religions), but fundies want to hold everyone down. Consider Shrub's (Bush's) policies on the poor. They don't exist to him. My horrible brother-in-law was a Southern Baptist minister and hardcore fundy. His church was in a lower economic area. When homeless people came to the church seeking help, he threw them out, saying he was there for God's people, not the godless homeless. What a Christian. My wonderful brother-in-law was a hard core Shrub-lover.

I say all this as a Christian who has been told that I don't belong in certain churches for not believing Shrub is a great man and president. As you may be able to tell, church-state separation is one of my big issues.

[TahitiNut]

19. "Gott Mit Uns" (i.e. "God With Us")

Enscribed on all Wehrmacht (German Army) beltbuckles in WW2.

[abaris]

21. That was a leftover from Imperial Germany and a concession for high

ranking officers. The German staff consisted of hardcore Conservatives, not Nazis. They sure as hell would have liked the return of the Emperor more than the rise of Hitler. But they did like his talk about German greatness. But there was also the other side of the medal. The most prominent attempts on Hitler's life were carried out by the same hardcore conservative officers. And that already starting in 1938, even before the war.

[TahitiNut]

35. "leftover"?? Well, all religion is LEFTOVER! Hitler exploited religion .

... in the same way secular authoritarians have for ages. Nobody claims Hitler, Mussolini, or Franco invented either Christianity or religionism. What's being pointed out are the parallels in using the dogmatism of blind, mindless faith to impose dogmatism of poltical ideology - in a similarly mindless way.

Peruse http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm

Every one of those photos could be placed adjacent to a identically-themed photo of Smirky McFascist.

[rman]

30. What makes you think he did believe in Christianity?

Is it because he said he regards Christianity as the foundation of national morality? Do you think Hitler was an honest and honorable man?

So, certain politicians say certain things to try and make themselves look good in the eyes of the population. What else is new?
In spite of all the power that a despot may have at his disposel, he still needs the consent of the people - it's just that consent can be manufactured. Many US politicians think of that as a wonderfull tool in the mangement of democracy.

Don't you know the mainstay of the modus operandi of despots (fascism is a form of despotism) is deception?

[amber dog democrat]

7. Somehow I can't see Christ as a Brownshirt.

but I'm an agnostic. What do i know about such things?
I have come to believe religion is often at the heart of criminal enterprises.
As an element of social control it is very, very effective.

[Polly Glot]

9. Hitler was also a vegetarian, a non-drinker and a non-smoker.

That thar's some family values, eh?

[Solitaire]

18. and...

He also supposedly loved animals.

Of course, he used his dog to test the poison he used on himself and his mistress.

His dog died, so he knew it was good stuff.

Talk about a man filled with contradictions. tsk

He was a loon.

[gordianot]

32. Warn Barney.

[Killarney]

13. holy crap.

scary

[nytemare]

14. Goering quote

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials


Chilling, eh?

[nytemare]

26. Oopsie

Quote was already above.

[peacetalksforall]

16. Our RIGHT has modified it a little....

"It regards Christians (and Jews who will accept Jesus) as the foundation of our national morality, and the family (man and woman only) as the basis of national life."

[nostalgicaboutmyfutr]

17. Really...have you folks read Mein Kampf?

he pretty much laid out what he was going to do...and then did it...take a look at the republican platform, same thing....read it and then follow what they said they were going to do if they got the necessary power...

[gordianot]

20. I have prewar copy (U.S. WWII, proceed of sale was given to Jewish relief.

I have always wondered about that, how much people really knew what was going on?

Books about the war printed during the war years are very rare. I am a collector.

I've read most of it. Really gives me a headache. No doubt in my mind he told the world what he was planning.

Guess we can't plead the same ignorance today.

[abaris]

22. Hitler made his plans very clear in "Mein Kampf", printed in 1925/26

Everyone having read this would have known, that he meant war, he meant to persecute the jews and he meant to abolish civil liberties. Sadly enough most people bought it, but never read it.

[gordianot]

23. The same way they do not read today.

One person I know (never have seen him because I will not sign a loyalty oath) brags about not reading.

[GoBlue]

24. From the same speech

Within four years the German peasant must be rescued from the quagmire into which he has fallen.

[patricia92243]

28. I wonder if our fearless leader has read any of this, and if so, would

he admit (to himself) that there are any parallels?

[mortimer_az]

29. Dept. of Homeland Security

C'mon, I can't be the only person that was scared shitless when they announced the name of THAT department. Since when, in American culture has anyone called it the "Homeland". That smacks of brown-shirt propaganda. Homeland Security = Motherland Defense Army.

[seraph]

31. Europe had the United States

to save THEM from Nazi Germany.

Who do you 'spose will save us?


Hope you all like Chinese food.

[nostalgicaboutmyfutr]

33. or bread and water... eom

[seraph]

34. Bread? What's that? (nt)