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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:51 AM
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No Senate democrat should be minority leader, from a red state.
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 04:49 AM by Zinfandel
We had to live with the spinelessness of Tom Daschle being "forced" to kiss republican ass and NOT speak out for us...Yet they went after him anyway (South Dakota)...slimy cuzz that the republicans are.

We can't afford to have another democrat as minority leader from a red state, No fucking way.

Barbara Boxer from CA would NOT have the same concerns about her job being in jeopardy.

Yeah, they will try to come after Boxer, years from now, but she WILL prevail...(If she even chooses to run again).

We really can't allow a Senator from a red state to be our Senate minority leader because they will be targeted and they better play ball with Rove's agenda...If the dems allow a senator, whom ever to be nominated from a red state...there should be a huge outcry, because the obvious Daschle spinelessness we saw so clearly, will again become our nightmare.
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Davion Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:55 AM
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1. I mostly agree
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 03:57 AM by Davion
But my favorite senator is from a Red State... Byron Dorgan. He LOOKS like a substitute math teacher, but DAMN that man has a brain and can articulate his beliefs!

He would've made one hell of a leader.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:01 AM
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3. Well Rove and the republicans are pushing hard behind the scenes to
have a Senator as minority "Leader" from a red state. (I can't recall whom right now, it's late and I'm full of Zinfandel).

But they are pushing and forcing the issue for obvious reasons. To control.

We just can't let that happen...for the same obvious reasons.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:12 AM
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8. he's one of my favorites, too
but I might be biased since I got to vote for him way back when. :)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:00 AM
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Weirdest sentence structure.
Sorry, but should we nominate a Republican for the job? Since you don't want a Democrat.

We don't want our party leader in either house of Congress to be from a state with a Republican majority? Welllllllllllll, that sounds fine. Until you think about the job he has to do. And that job requires understanding the difficulties of being from such states, and knowing how to persuade those embattled Senators and Representatives to vote the party line.

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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:11 AM
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7. "HE"? Fuck, get real...Is Boxer a Democrat? And wouldn't you rather have a
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 04:34 AM by Zinfandel
senator from a STRONG (what is left) of a strong a Democratic state, CA, as opposed to someone from a state that's red and perhaps will keep their mouth's shut when told to, from a weak democratic state (red state)?

Seems obvious to me!

Nancy Pelosi---Barbara Boxer, both from CA...A blue state????
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:00 AM
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2. No Democrat from a red state should be Minority Leader of the Senate
Perhaps you mean to say "No Democrat from a red state should be Minority Leader of the Senate".
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Davion Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:03 AM
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4. Sadly, too soon it will be
No Democrat from a red state will be IN the Senate :(
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:03 AM
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5. Your "distinction" fascinates me...Continue...
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 04:34 AM by Zinfandel
:smoke: LOL! Perhaps that's what I meant to say. But you tell me...waiting....ZZZZZZZzzzzzZZZ!!!!
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:09 AM
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6. watch harry reid do it
but he'll expect all the blue staters to help him stop Yucca Mt. after that get out your pink tutus
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:16 AM
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9. Reid just won; safe for six years and might not even run again
He is fairly old, having run for senate as early as 1974.

It's obviously very early to look toward 2010. I supposed current Nevada governor Kenny Guinn could challenge Reid then. Maybe congressman Jim Gibbons, if he either loses the 2006 governors race or decides not to run for re-election as governor in 2010.

Daschle had to lead the last two years knowing Thune was out there and likely to run again. Reid has no similar short term threat or concerns.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:18 AM
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10. I don't think he'll have to worry about the next election
He'll be 71 in 2010, but I guess you never these days.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:25 AM
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11. Reid your speaking of?
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:35 AM
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12. Yes.
Probably should have made that clear.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:44 AM
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13. But your right...71 doesn't mean shit these days, maybe 81 or 91 or more,
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 04:45 AM by Zinfandel
...then...were in Strom Thurmond territory, almost, try a hundered and one. UGH!
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MoJoWorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:14 AM
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14. The Number 2 man, Dick Durbin, should have been the minority leader
He is one hell of a scrappy fighter!
From the VERY BLUE state of IL
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:44 AM
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15. Harry Reid has skills. He can most effectively block the Republican agenda
We need a workhorse who has proven to be effective in the chamber in there right now to block the worst of the worst, not a showhorse. The showhorses will get their TV face time and do a fine job of articulating our opposition to the Republican aganda on TV regardless of who is Majority Leader.

Here's a couple examples of Reid's skills. Examples that also showcase his working relationship with moderate Republicans who we will need help from in the next 2 years.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/blog/2004/11/MB_2004_44.html#41
http://www.now.org/issues/legislat/11-11-98.html#win
http://www.wilderness.org/NewsRoom/Release/20040915b.cfm
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Tanuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:04 AM
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16. What about Robert Byrd of WV?
He is vastly experienced, isn't afraid of Rove, and isn't worried about re-election. He was also a voice crying in the wilderness against the Iraq war right from the start.
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