Why does our country just shrug when there are voting glitches

[intheflow]

but is punitive about holding grade schools accountable for every student that fails a test?

Where are the failing report cards? Why aren't we demanding that federal funds be withheld from these computer manufacturers? I'm sure there's some corporate welfare program they could be kicked off.

[Gelliebeans]

1. it is amazing to me

but you know full well if this was the republicans calling for voter fraud or irregularities you would bet the propaganda machine would be cranking it out 24/7

[tridim]

2. Does "our country" even know about it yet?

This is DU, we tend to know all. No so with the CNN watching majority. I still think this thing is going to break wide very soon.

[intheflow]

4. I agree, breaking soon.

And people have glimpses all over the country. Killing time waiting for my coffee in a shop yesterday, picked up a USA Today rag. But buried in the back of the first section were two paragraphs about "voting irregularities." I thought that was pretty good for USA Today, which actually does have a wide, middle-America readership. So, yeah, I think word is starting to leak out.

But I'm not sure it will change anything. It never ceases to amaze me how willfully blind Americans tend to be toward anything resembling fraud. (Or fascism, for that matter.)

[Ducks In A Row]

17. That's what I was thinking.

I'm sure most people in Oregon haven't heard about it. Our complaints are fairly petty compared to the rest of the country.

[Indiana_Dem]

3. I don't know. I've been talking about it 'til I'm blue in the face

with my spouse and then he realized what I was talking about after he watched Keith Olberman tonight!!! He didn't hear me until Keith said it on mainstream media TV!!!

[vajraroshana]

5. long history of complacency

[kuozzman]

6. Ya, this really is BS!!

I'm wondering the same thing, there are a lot of people pissed off, who would be willing to do something. I think the best thing we can do now is to convince the mainstream media, which I think may have been done. When I was watching FOX talk about it, I definitely got the sense that Hume, who is a senior something at FOX, hadn't actually looked at all the proof until recently and also that he agrees that the exit polls are normally accurate and would have been, if not for the voting method-based trends. At the very least, I think they, which would hopefully lead to others, will conduct a serious investigation into all the data that has been emailed to them. And hopefully some city and state papers will start printing more articles like the one below. But if something doesn't happen by Friday from mainstream media, that wouldn't be good. But I really think that now that they aren't busy w/election or acting like they don't look at exit polls, they have time to take this more seriously.

FOX Thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x2281#2287

Miami Herald
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/columnists/fred_grimm/10137159.htm

[newyawker99]

20. Hi kuozzman!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[d_b]

7. ..

:shrug:

[ever_green]

8. Lack of media attention. The sheeple need it preached to them on TV

They don't process it if they don't see it on the idiot box.

[intheflow]

9. They don't process it even then! LOL!

[m berst]

10. Fear

Poeple ae afraid. They won't take a stand. They look for ways to stay in denial.

[Protagoras]

11. We are too comfortable still

We, unlike countries that take to the street, still drive our SUVs, watch our TVs like it was the face of god, and eat our McPounders w/cheese regardless of how our elections turn out.

In the end, very few issues that motivate MOST people change regardless of who's in office. The American public shifts it's pain, waste, and responsibility offshore. And it's all those billions of poor people around the world who are hungry, who have no shoes, who fear any knock on the door at night...it's them who pay the price for us.

We are apathy incarnate. Sure some care. Some protest....but to the vast vast majority...it's all a hypothetical. It's no more real than the next episode of the OC or Fear Factor.

In other words...it hasn't hurt us enough yet. But it may.

[JackieO]

12. it's sick

Seriously, it's some kind of sickness.

[ebayfool]

13. I love her but arrrgghh!

My aunt (among others), when this was pointed out to her, then responded with that tired old retread 'The number of voting probs are being overblown by the LIBERAL MEDIA'! You know, the 'liberal media' that is still giving this a wide berth, like they'll get something on them if they come too close!?:shrug:

[onecitizen]

14. Your FIRST post djmaddox1!!!

Welcome. You'll never be the same again! }(

[ebayfool]

15. Thanks for the welcome -

Been lurking & itching to speak for a while now! Thanks to Skinner - who I begged w/no shame - for slipping me in here. Now, if only I can get my aunt others to open up up a little & let me in! I'm NOT giving up on them.

[intheflow]

18. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[newyawker99]

21. Hi djmaddox1!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[drunkdriver-in-chief]

16. Are there any dem leaders complaining about it???

If this happened to the repugs they'd be howling, but democrats don't do anything. Same thing with the 2000 election and the 9-11 lies.

[Cleita]

19. Would somebody please get a petition out to

outlaw any voting machine that doesn't use a paper ballot to tally the votes? If we can get rid of those inauditable machines it would be a big step.

[Jeanette in FL]

22. I don't get it either

In 2000, I lived in Palm Beach County, scene of the first crime and people would shrug their shoulders and say "There is nothing we can do". I could not get anyone in my immediate family or circle of friends to go to the protests that we had there. Total apathy. I tried to tell them that if we hit the streets and demand that our votes be counted, that TPTB would have to take notice. Believe it or not I even lost some family members over it because they were tired of me talking about a stolen election.

I am now at the point that I will not tolerate any BS or apathy in my life. We have too much to lose.

[kayell]

23. Because dealing with voting problems would be ... hard work,

really, really hard work. *Whine*

[Redleg]

24. We don't want to know about things not working.

We see ourselves as a powerful, modern nation and we can't deal well with failures. We have been warned about liberal do-gooders and communist agitators telling us our country is not the perfect place we think it is. We have been warned about the liberal media who lies to us to make our country look bad. If you keep bringing up "problems" about voting and our democratic process you will be sent to a re-education camp.