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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:39 PM
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Warblogger writes of the Terrorist Sympathizers of Democratic Underground
Malachy Joyce, who posts on the warblog Hundredpercenter Newswires, believes David Allen, who runs the Democratic Underground web site, should be arrested for treason. Joyce is upset because some people posting on DU are less than enthusiastic about “our troops” killing people in Iraq. “After reading the anti-American, treasonous, seditious comments on Democraticunderground, I became convoluted about unlimited free speech. We all enjoy free speech. But, should it be used to advocate the killing of U.S. troops at war?” writes Joyce. Most of the posts quoted by Joyce are emotional ramblings concerning the invasion of Fallujah, hardly advocacy for the murder of U.S. troops (it seems unlikely Iraqi “insurgents” read posts on DU). “Is there a limit to Freedom of Speech? If so, what do you think should happen to that website? Would it be a dangerous precedent for the Government to act upon terrorist sympathisers, such as DemocraticUnderground.com?” writes Joyce.

I have mixed feelings. On one hand I realize that the comments were probably posted by some hippie-drug addict- 1960’s burn-outs, who hate America, and are harmless. On the other hand, I feel that it is the administrators responsibility to filter out such comments.

If it were up to me, I’d have the owner, David Allen, arrested for inciting violence against U.S soldiers. Period.

Perhaps the IRS should look into Mr. David Allen’s tax returns. I wonder if Mr. Allen is claiming all of the donations he receives from his loyal traitors.

Joyce includes Allen’s email and post office box address.

http://kurtnimmo.com/blog/index.php?p=405
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:42 PM
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1. WTF?????? Welcome to Bush's second term. McCartyism: Part II.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:43 PM
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2. Shit, you beat me. nt
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:44 PM
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3. Hi! Mr. Warblogger?
Do you know the words "Shin Kumite"? Look it up. Anytime, babe. Any old time you want.

Blogpussy. I've taken better shits than you.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:56 PM
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22. Hey TS! Did you get your concert?
I just wanted to know if the mail arrived?

TD
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:11 AM
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75. 'warblogger' usually equals War-DODGER!
Screeching at us for not applauding the war they refuse to fight!

:dunce:
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:46 PM
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4. Hah. If anything like that happens, it's time to GTFO of the country.
(it won't happen.)

The neofascists in office are taking things step by step, slowly enough not to shock anybody. They wouldn't be complicit in anything like that at this stage.
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Democracy Died 2004 Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:46 PM
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5. oh crap another
hater of free speech. Damn now I have to donate so i can be a loyal traitor.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:48 PM
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6. And this is what we get to look forward to in the next 4 years.



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juliagoolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:49 PM
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7. Value of Life
This person obviously believes that lives have different value placed upon them depending upon what nation they come from or live in.

Obvious BIGOT and delusional maniac.

Perhaps this person should have the IRS visit her!

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pleiku52cab Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:49 PM
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8. Can't get her comments section to come up - too bad
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:49 PM
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9. don't forget THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE BILL OF RIGHTS
Now that Bush has his “mandate” from the American people, those who oppose his policies can expect increased surveillance, harrassment, and maybe even arrest and detention. Recall Bush’s attitude toward those who disagreed with him when he was the governor of Texas— he told peaceful environmental protesters demonstrating outside the governor’s mansion in 1999, that “the rules have changed” and ordered them arrested. “The governor seems to think he can, by fiat, simply hack away ‘the right of the people to peaceably assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances,’ to quote a portion of the First Amendment,” commented Charles Levendosky of the Casper Star-Tribune. Indeed. As we now know, Bush believes the Bill of Rights itself should be changed.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:50 PM
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Read the comments on Joyce's blog
I hope DU can reply officially to these threats and smears.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:34 PM
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57. here's one that might be of particular interest....
posted by DUmole:

"I have been at the DU for over 3 years. You have them pegged. Here are some more for those that think this isn't how they think......

KingChicken.....War turns people into monsters, it may be better to die then come back Tue Nov-09-04 07:18 PM

saigon68 ....Crazed Killers coming to the streets of Amerika

Wait til these Fuckers get a hold of you at an anti-draft or anti-war protest.

They won't just kick your ass Tue Nov-09-04 07:47 PM

And then their is a very special piece traitorous shit named Zhade. Check them out and learn why we won the election. You will be surprised, but be warned ...they will only be delighted in what they see as a favorable light.

THEY WILL KILL YOU."
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:15 PM
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102. those first two seem to regard the soldiers' phychological health
following the war, as they come back. I think I remember reading that thread. There's nothing traitorous about it, either- there will be people here paying with their lives because some returned soldiers go over the edge.

That's not being treasonous- it's simply making a sad observation.

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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:50 PM
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10. Some people spend more time bashing our troops than the terrorists
I've got over a thousand posts and am life long Democrat, but it disgusts me to no end to see our troops being bashed by fellow liberals, and yet I see nothing about how cruel some of these baathists and foreign fighters are in Iraq. Maybe some people here need to spend a little more time analyzing who the enemy actually is. US forces or foreign fighters and insurgents who'd cut my head or your head off if they spotted you in Fallujah.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:04 PM
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27. I'm right there with you. I never agreed with this war, but wishing our
troops harm, or saying they deserve to die, (as I got into another argument about on this board), is not something I'm going to take lying down. I used to be a troop. My husband's a retired troop. My daughter-in-law just got back from Iraq and my son served in Afghanistan. Nobody deserves to die. Not an American. Not an Iraqi. Bush started this war. Bush deserves the ire.

It's our troops who have fought for the rights of people to be able to say what they want, but the speakers will have to listen to the other side of the story, as well. Just think, if some of these DUers were Iraqi, or Chinese, or any of a hundred other nationalities, they'd have to pay for what they say with their lives. So, when people are fucking the troops, they should be thanking them at the same time for allowing them the opportunity to do it!
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:20 PM
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48. I agree
I hate this war as well.

I was driving around today thinking about what is currently going on Fallujah. I thought to myself, how could anyone possibly justify this war considering everything we know now. Then I thought, how could Bush possibly be reelected after what he did.

My beef with people here is I see more blame going towards the soldiers than people like Osama Bin Laden and those who've cut off heads.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:36 PM
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62. I've seen those posts, too. I believe people have the right to say what
they want to say, even if I don't like it, but being as this is a political board in a public sphere I wish people would think more carefully about what they say.

It was very politically expedient for a lot of people to "support the troops" before the election. Now the election is over, they have lost the incentive to be civil, or even use common sense. This kind of talk is not only hurtful, personally, but it harms the party, as well. As George Bush is the recruitment poster boy for Islamic extremism, the bashing of the troops plays right into the Right-Wingers hands. Evidence: The Warblog guy's post.

Politics isn't about saying what you feel and beating everybody else over the head with it. Evidence: Jerry Falwell. He really makes me want to jump up and play Christian. But, politics is about persuading people to want to understand your point of view. Wishing harm on our sons and daughters won't change anybody's mind, it will just cement further bigotries against us.

P.S. I know most DUers aren't troop bashers, but it's the few who will get the negative attention.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:30 PM
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55. the troops basically just defend and enforce government policy...
... whatever it happens to be at the time.

If government policy is to uphold the First Amendment, then the troops may be said, in some sense, to have defended the First Amendment. However, Iraq never threatened freedom of speech in America (utterly laughable, this bizarre attempt to make it sound as though Iraqis were in some kind of global crusade to shut everyone up!). What the troops are doing in Iraq does not in ANY sense bolster the security of Constitutionally enumerated freedoms. As usual, the threat to free speech comes from within our own society.

When government policy was to uphold racist laws, then the troops may legitimately have been said to have defended racist laws. Since the current goverment policy is aggressive warfare, torture, kangaroo courts, imprisonment without trial, and the "PATRIOT" Act, then the troops defend these things every bit as much as they defend our dwindling rights and freedoms.

Ditto for ANY government policy.


On those occasions when America's defenders have been ordered to turn their guns on American citizens, they have complied. And there is no reason to believe that they would fail to comply with similar commands in the future. This is part of why the founders of this country considered the maintenance of a standing army to be a dire threat to the safety of the people.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:04 PM
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28. "Who the enemy actually is." Do YOU know?
WE are the enemy of Iraq. We invaded a country which had NOT attacked us.

I have always believed that if you start a way, you don't get a say in how it ends.

But, as I sit here gathering books to send to our soldiers, I don't want a single American harmed. There are many kinds of harm. Since I'm older, I remember the walking wounded of VietNam. I remember the men with the nightmares and the lives forever scarred and ruined by memories too terrible to tell without eight beers.

The enemy of American troops is George W. Bush who lied them to their deaths for a prize we will NEVER be allowed to keep.

We are now hated, despised and WEAKENED in the world. While you and George are happily making war in the MidEast, Brazil just sent an envoy to Aristide. I'll bet that didn't even make your radar. But that signals that the power vacuum left in the Americas by the demise of the United States as superpower is attracting candidates to fill the void. We are losing our standing everywhere in the world and if we were attacked anywhere in the world, HOW THE FUCKING HELL DO YOU THINK WE COULD FIGHT BACK?????????

Don't you DARE start preaching how much you love the people who are dying in your place for a lie. And worse, if they survive, they have the faces of the innocent, invaded people they murdered before their eyes forever. Don't you DARE.



Bush has sent them unprotected and HUNGRY into a foreign nation which RIGHTLY is fighting back against oppression from its invaders. The horror is that WE are the invaders.

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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:54 AM
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84. They confused Du for Free Republic...There lies your chickenhawk
traitors ! They won't fight for a war they are supposed to believe in. This lady does not know the difference between supporting troops and not supporting a war. The war and the warrior are two different things. See, we have morals and values and believe in thou Shalt not Kill..PERIOD ! If she read Du then she would know there were veterans and Iraqi vet and active service member families here.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:09 PM
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37. that's an absurd remark
I've got over a thousand posts and am life long Democrat, but it disgusts me to no end to see our troops being bashed by fellow liberals, and yet I see nothing about how cruel some of these baathists and foreign fighters are in Iraq. Maybe some people here need to spend a little more time analyzing who the enemy actually is. US forces or foreign fighters and insurgents who'd cut my head or your head off if they spotted you in Fallujah.


Huh? And just what kind of treatment do you think a FOREIGN INVADER would get if they parked their army on OUR soil? Mass candle-light vigils and singings of Kumbaya? Hell -- our response would change the very definition of "cruel", and beheadings would be the least of it. Unless, of course, you really don't think we'd fight back with everything we had. Thing is, I at least have more confidence in us than that.


Or maybe you just don't think that mere brown people get to take the defense of their countries as seriously as valuable white folks do...


:eyes:
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:10 PM
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38. terrorists? you mean the Iraqi resistance
you would do the same to them if they were occupying our country. Military occupation is violence; everything else is a reaction.These deaths are all Bushes fault. Let's keep things in perspective.
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:15 PM
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41. Agree.
I'm referring to people being critical of the soldiers.

And I doubt Iraqi's would be cheering for Americans and ridiculing Iraqi troops if the invaded the United States. A

All I'm saying is that we should keep things in perspective by trying to look at things from the troops point of view.

Do you think it's possible that being in Iraq for months, being shot at daily and watching friends die has possibly affected their mindset?
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puddycat Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:18 PM
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46. it disgusts me to see the pervasive war-like mindset of our culture
This glorification of all things military is a dangerous and un-Constitutional precedent. We have to fight this macho-fascist attitude of over-militarization--it will be the death of our democracy. Our military should not be used for these constant foreign wars for the benefit of rich white men. It is against everything that our nation was founded on.

So, I don't understand some of you here at DU who whimper and cry every time a freeper viciously attacks anti-militarization views. A freeper is a fascist and a warmonger. Who the fuck cares what scum like that think? We know they operate off of the Nazi turnspeak propaganda book, and constant attacks are part and parcel of their twisted minds. Instead of constantly being defensive about the moral highground we hold, we run around on the defensive. It has not done the Democrats any good to do that. The biggest mistake Kerry made in the campaign, in my view, is to ignore his brave and courageous anti-war activities.


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TheKingfish Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:19 PM
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47. Baathists and foreign fighters...
Please don't use RW talking points, it just sounds silly.
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:22 PM
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52. What do you prefer I use?
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 11:22 PM by Bush was AWOL
There are Baathists and Foreign Fighters in Fallujah. We've known this for months. It's not a right wing talking point or term. It's the truth. You can admit the truth while still knowing that the war in Iraq is an illegal and imoral war.
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TheKingfish Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:26 PM
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53. yea there are some of each
but to characterize the whole resistance that way is rediculous.
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:35 PM
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60. Absolutely
I never said it was such.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:50 PM
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11. Ann Coulter wanna be on the blog
Making highly provocative statements to draw attention to herself. Pretty trite stuff.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:51 PM
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12. "anti-American, treasonous, seditious"
What is this, the RightWinger's Thesaurus? They all use the same words over and over.

Don't you think they could think of something a little more entertaining, like "anarchist"? I mean, the word has such a punch to it.

"Sedition," bwahahahaha. All the Bubbas and Debbies reach for their Webster's, must be somewhere near that stack of old TV Guide and Readers Digest magazines.


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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:00 PM
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24. Oh, and let us not forget the other mantra
"THE GOP IS THE PARTY OF IDEAS."

These are the guys who make BRUTAL fun of personal appearance, not just candidates, but spouses too, with great glee, who claim that all of our servicemembers are "happy" to be in Iraq (rather like those cheerful slaves in pre-Civil War America) and all we have to do is "stay the course" and all will be well.

They sure are the party of IDEAS...fucked-up ideas!!!!!!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:52 PM
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13. Just wait till they try to bring back sedition laws n/t
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xpunkisneatx Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:52 PM
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14. grrr...
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 11:08 PM by xpunkisneatx
Ya know what. This really pisses me off. I have read a lot of the posts on here, and if they are saying something negative about the troops, it is usually in response to the "blood-thirstiness" that these troops portray whenever they get their faces on TV. I am speaking of the "Yeah, i just blew the shit outa something" comments. I personally have several friends in Iraq right now and I know they do not want to be there...I personally wish nothing but the best for the troops and a safe return home.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:53 PM
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15. Why do they hate us for our freedoms?
I must admit these dasys when I do hear bush ask this questiion I think of people like this blogger...
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:48 PM
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68. LOL! The threat to free speech in America comes from our own...
... society, and not from Iraq, fer cryin out loud! This war is not waged in defense of either our freedom or our security. That really should have been completely obvious to all.

If you can be made to believe absurdities, you can be made to commit atrocities. As someone said.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:53 PM
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16. I agree with Malachy Joyce. (as far as the Free Speech part)
We have to be very careful what we say. I mean, IF we were not careful than somebody like Radicalliberal would say something like: "Why don't you challenge me to a verbal dual or better yet why don't I just beat your fascist, ignorant, redneck, hillbilly face in" ... We certainly wouldn't want that.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:54 PM
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17. wanna send a "comment" to this guy? Here is the site:
The one listed above is NOT the source of these comments. This is:

http://hundredpercenter.blogspot.com/

you can leave a comment at the end of the rant on the page. Someone claiming to be a "DUmole" already has.
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:54 PM
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18. Well, based upon this individual's standards of culpability,
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 10:59 PM by Pharlo
the current White House occupant is equally as guilty for "inciting violence against U.S. soldiers". Without the incompetence which is the current administration, US troops would not be in harms way...

Pro War, anti-free-speech bigot


Time to start increasing my donations to the ACLU...They will be needing every penny....
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Edmond Dantes Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:54 PM
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19. This is EXACTLY why I jumped (sometimes harshly)
on those DUers who advocated violent overthrow of the government last week.

I know you're angry after the election, and I can't say I disagree with your "concerns" about the potential for a civil war in the U.S. But I think Skinner has done a wonderful job with DU, and I don't want to see him investigated for allowing his forum to be used to incite the violent overthrow of the government--which is a federal felony. Being under investigation is a terrible experience and, even if you are cleared (2 years and $100,000 later), your reputation and psyche are almost always savaged in the process.

(My apologies to GarySeven, but I had to put a stop to it. Immediately.)
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:56 PM
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20. this Malarkey Joyce person can get his ass to the recruitment office
He thinks he's going to get in our faces for refusing to applaud the very war he evidently refuses to fight? Typical cowardly two-faced piece o'shit chickenhawk.

You really, reeeally wanna "support the troops", Malarkey Joyce? Go BE one of them, you hundred... er, zero-percenter!
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Lostnote03 Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:56 PM
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21. I Just Pray That My Nephew Is Safe.......
........I wonder if Malarkey Joyce has a close relative in battle???......Do not fall for this nonsense....Best Wishes
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:17 PM
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I wish the best for your nephew
The right should realize there are many members here who have relatives in Iraq and DU has wrapped their arms around them and provided much support. We're all angry about Bush lying his way into this war and failing to secure the huge caches of conventional weapons that are now slaughtering our kids and Iraqi families.

The right should wake up and become a part of the reality-based community. Our "moral values" don't include the slaughter of thousands of innocents.

I dare you to view this link.
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Lostnote03 Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:36 PM
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63. WAR...Stupid Is As Stupid Does!!!!!
.....I think that I'm going to go out for a jog.....Thank You
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:47 AM
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91. Yes, in looking at the number of military ballots
precinct by precinct in my state, I was aware of how many of my neighbors have family there, and of how many of them are probably Democratic sons or daughters based on the Democratic versus Republican percentages in these districts. Democrats have fought honorably in every war. There are war veterans throughout the top eschelon of our Democratic leadership.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:58 PM
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23. "should it be used to advocate the killing of U.S. troops"
Well, first of all, I've NEVER seen a post on this nature in the year or so since I've been here.

Second of all, while they're scouring around over here, let's demand they take a long hard look at the Freaker site. Now if you want to talk about killing Americans, that's the place to be!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:02 PM
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25. Who the hell wishes violence against US soldiers
I want them home in one piece. We support the troops, just not the war itself.

I was so proud to sit next to some guys from Houston and realize that just by how I talked about health care for the troops and how National Guards should get the same benefits as active duty if both are exposed to the same dangers, they immediately got the idea that I was supporting the troops if not the war. They seemed sort of surprised but somewhat pleased, considering they could also tell that I was a Kerry supporter. Maybe I raised their awareness alittle that we aren't what they've been told we are, not all anyway.

I probably have a certain general and a certain Vietnam veteran to thank for that perspective, by the way. I hadn't thought much about it before, or about being the daughter of a veteran. Bless the Vets for Kerry, Gen. Clark and Kerry himself for that.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:04 PM
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26. Ooooh.... we made the cover of the website!
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 11:04 PM by flowomo
It's a drudge-type thing:



http://www.hundredpercenter.com/
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:05 PM
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29. Maybe I'll pay attention to "Warblogger" when he grows opposable thumbs.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:06 PM
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30. Damn! Now I'll have to donate MORE money to DU.
I'm nothing if not loyal.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:06 PM
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31. Hahahaahaaaa.......whew.
what is he/she . . . 12-14 years old?

some one needs to get a serious grip on formatting. . . fonts . . .:wtf:
http://hundredpercenter.blogspot.com/2004/11/democraticunderground-advocates.html

sad.shit.
dp
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:09 PM
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35. this is the full monty:
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:14 PM
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40. yeah, i looked it over
drudge wanna be.

now that's aspiration.
dp
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:15 PM
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42. never wudda believed anybody could out-drudge drudge.... but this is it!
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Ann Arbor Dem Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:16 PM
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43. OMG....I'm laughing so hard, I'm tearing up....
It's exclusive, breaking news, folks - we are the "enemy within"...within what, I don't know. What a wanker.
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:20 PM
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49. And if you click on the 'Advertisers' link
Verizon and Wal-Mart.

Anyone surprised?
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:21 PM
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51. I am your father! You must join the darkside and together we will rule
Beware of the light!
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Ann Arbor Dem Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:06 PM
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32. They are afraid of us, the power of DU, Skinner, Elad and EarlG.
:smoke:
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:11 PM
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39. Sure! He must have been LOOKING for this stuff...
Given that pretty much every other post here contains nothing of the sort.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:07 PM
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33. Do any DUers still balk at the Hitler comparisons?
Four years, at least one rigged election, a mysterious attack on political opponents by government grade weaponry, two invasions, well over 100,000 dead, and now calls for the arrest on trumped-up charges of people who speak out against the government?

Any more questions? Any more lines they have to cross?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:07 PM
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34. What a load of Nazi garbage.
I don't ever remember reading anything about any DU'er wanting to advance the killing U. S troops. Boy these idiots have a way of accusing you of things you never said. They are so used to lying that they don't think anyone remembers what they said. If anything was said, I will bet the jerk has a big tombstone on his account.
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TheKingfish Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:09 PM
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36. Here is a piece by his wife with her email
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:17 PM
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45. Such a history lesson!
"As fate would have it, I met and married Malachy Joyce--a soldier who served in Vietnam with the
101st Airborne. Malachy received many medals for bravery and service to his country. However, he did
not discard his medals as meaningless pieces of junk as did Presidential hopeful John Kerry. Malachy
didn't really speak much about his experiences in Vietnam and I never pressed the issue. However, I did
ask him how much it meant to him to have so many supporters who vigilantly protested the war trying
to get him and the others home. Much to my surprise, he spoke in great detail about the " Media" and
those "Jerks" that were protesting the war. He felt betrayed by both. He strongly felt the media kept
the nation polarized with their antiwar sentiments. Malachy was deeply hurt by the Media's skewed
perception that all Vietnam Vets were "drug crazed" savages committing atrocities. Due to the
continual negative press about the Vietnam Vets, there weren't any parades to welcome them home
when they touched American soil. Instead they were made to feel ashamed that they had
participated in a war that the "Media" did not approve of. My sweet brave soldier taught me a valuable
lesson about true patriotism that I practice today, and it's quite simple; during a war a true American
supports his President and Troops unconditionally."


media induced PTSD.
who'd a thunk?

dp

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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:40 PM
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64. Hmmm.....Is it just me,
or does this look like the impassioned scribbling of a young teenager? Is this guy a pedophile?

I mean REALLY! ---"My sweet brave soldier..."

I don't know about anyone else, but by the time I was in nineth grade no composition teacher in my school would have allowed me to express myself in this fashion. Every other sentence starts with Malachy, no independent thought, no facts referenced.

If Malachy isn't married to a fourteen year old, Malachy wrote this himself.

In my opinion.
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:50 AM
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92. I bet she was right there supporting and being a
true patriot when Clinton was in office.
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:16 PM
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44. the web site is no accepting comments...
"Leave a comment

Sorry, the comment form is closed at this time."
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:35 PM
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59. I don't think so.... you may have gone to wrong site:
go here to my post above "wanna leave a comment...." or go here: http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7226345&postID=109998174858371414
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:42 PM
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65. thank you....
:hi:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:20 PM
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50. Freepers for the CIA and the IRS
LOL! Anything for their Fuhrer
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:27 PM
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54. They sound dangerous...
Someone should warn the FBI, and the IRS about their extremist fanaticism. They sound like their one step away from WACO redux.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:54 PM
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70. why won't they take their dangerous little selves off to Eye-Rack?
Why are they so unwilling to go fight in their own war? I mean, this is a perfect chance for them to put their money where their mouths are...
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:32 PM
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56. Isn't that grounds for slander?
She IS smearing the good name of Dave and DU, she could get sued big time for that.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:45 PM
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67. seems to be the MO
http://www.hundredpercenter.com/NYSRegents.html

(go ahead, take the test) . . .

more exposed addresses at bottom.
dp
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seraph Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:35 PM
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58. Maybe the IRS should revoke "Tax Free Status" of freeper churches. (nt)
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:36 PM
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61. he also referenced the 9/11 vs. 11/2/04 poll. nt
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:42 PM
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66. WTF???? DU is far from being a BUSH sympathizer!
:evilgrin: the biggist terrorists in the world right now are bin laden and bush. one has a fucked up kidney, a fucked up face. i hate them both. we are losing men in iraq in the names of freedom and democracy while we can't even get something as basic as voting right at home. ARRGHH!!!
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DubyaSux Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:53 PM
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69. It's not helping.....
...many people on here are pouring their lives into figuring out what happened with this election. They are calling their representatives, the media, and anybody who will listen.

But when people actively support the destruction of our troops for being forced to fight for their lives in some bullshit war, who will come to our defense?

And if a fellow poster tries to put those comments into some type of more proper perspective, the poster gets flamed and lumped in with the troops.

Wishing harm to our troops on a public forum is not helping any cause no matter how much of a right you think you have to speak it. You've set other's efforts regarding current issues back to the stone age for venting your hatred of the war through our troops.

Bad form. Really, really bad form.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:07 AM
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72. only war-supporters wish harm and destruction upon the troops
The only people who are literally wishing harm and destruction upon the troops are those who support the war, because their advocacy makes that harm and destruction inevitable.

Those vague, undefined demands that we "support" the troops are in essence demands that we fail to disapprove of what the troops are doing over there. And yet it is that very attitude of so-called "support" that encourages the government to go to war more often than it would if the American people were willing to stick to their princples and refuse to applaud participation in war. This absurd "support" for the troops always makes war more likely. "Supporting" the troops ultimately just gets them killed.


That this does not matter to the "supporters" tells you everything you need to know about them.
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:58 PM
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71. Don'tcha just hate it when ya get all convoluted?
I hate that!
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:08 AM
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73. ahhh, I posted a reply-- a civil reply-- but it was removed...
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 12:12 AM by mike_c
...immediately. Too bad. I was actually a bit impressed that Malachy Joyce quoted one of my comments in his rant. Although taken out of context, its spirit was preserved, more-or-less.

on edit: someone saw it during the brief time it was up and called me a "hate filled scumbag!" That's the sweetest thing a freeper has said to me all week. (Of course I'm using the term "freeper" in a generic sense.)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:08 AM
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74. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:49 AM
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81. Are you referring to me? (eom)
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:27 AM
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87. No, I'm referring to that crazy
as a bed bug person who wants to have us all locked up for treason and not supporting our troops. Making his or her own trouble, by pretending to be offended or attacked by evil democrats, is a Parlockian type of deed.
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:11 AM
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76. they are trying to discredit DU
which makes me believe that they are scared that people are actually listening to truths spoken freely here.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:16 AM
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77. WARBLOGGER: why do you hate us for our freedoms?
oh yeah and FUCK YOU!
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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:04 AM
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86. Here's her blog
http://hundredpercenter.blogspot.com/

These people make me sick to my stomach. Such a celebration of symbol over meaning, icon over intellect, jingoism over empathy. How do we get total pod-people like this to join the reality based community? I don't think it can be done. I think some people are too far gone.

*shudder*


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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:40 AM
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89. "This site needs to be investigated for actively
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 03:47 AM by antonialee839
sympathizing with foreign terrorists and inciting violence against U.S.troops abroad". You idiotic, investigation-calling-for twit, my son is in Fallujah, and I get nothing but support from the fine people here on DU. Not a day goes by without someone asking me how he is doing, or sending out their prayers. So take your phony support the troops investigation nonsense and shove it up your ass. (sorry about the ass part mods).
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:25 AM
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78. Why isn't Malachy Joyce in Iraq fighting for his glorious leader?
Put your ass where your mouth is, you nazi pig.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:27 AM
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79. He hates us for our freedom
Guess he must have cherrypicked the constitution.

:shrug:
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:38 AM
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80. Damn that evil Constitution!!!
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 12:41 AM by bling bling
Those comments he mentioned also could have been from Freeper infiltrators just trying to make us look bad.

I don't care what he thinks anyway. If Americans aren't tough enough to handle hearing opinions of war posted on openly partisan opinion boards than we aren't tough enough to be engaged in war.

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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:50 AM
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82. Malarkey Joyce is an overheated little totalitarian...
... who is pants-pissing terrified of dissent. A Stalinist.

I don't care what he thinks anyway. If Americans aren't tough enough to handle hearing opinions of war posted on openly partisan opinion boards than we aren't tough enough to be engaged in war.

Absolutely!

Also, the real threat to freedom comes from people like Malarkey Joyce and the faction they belong to. Like Stalin, they actually feel entitled to 100%, full-throated approval of their idiotic policies, and their fondest dream is to send every dissenter to the gulag so that they won't have to risk hearing inconvenient truths.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:52 AM
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83. We are all in the same boat now....
We may have started on DU for a different purpose. But, we see a bigger battle before us. We cannot go back. The battle is too important.
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:57 AM
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85. Did Joyce just call Elizabeth Edwards and Chris Heinz traitors too ?
Stupid warmonger !
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:35 AM
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88. These people see things so black and white
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 03:36 AM by Carolab
why can't they see the shades of grey?

If they really understood the picture, they'd see that we support our military force being used as it was intended to be used--defensively. Sending these young men and women to die and be wounded and to kill for empire is wrong. We also consider it a crime that these same troops don't have the necessary equipment and protection to keep themselves safe from weapons constructed largely out of material that was looted when it should have been protected. And, to add insult to injury, they return home to find their jobs gone, their benefits slashed, and their lives ruined. I suggest that they visit the websites of men, women and families in the military who are opposed as we are to this war. Would they like their blogs trashed and their tax returns investigated as well?
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erniesam Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:43 AM
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90. Well, at least he didn't advocate labeling the DU as a terrorist
organization and having all the contributors arrested as enemy combatants.
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JSJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:52 AM
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93. don't blame the site developer- blame me! i did it- i called for the...
...deaths of troops who are killing unarmed children and old people in Iraq. And, I will continue to do so until they stop purposely killing civilians.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:15 AM
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94. Here's the Fascist cockroach
Domain Name.......... hundredpercenter.com
Creation Date........ 2004-05-14
Registration Date.... 2004-05-14
Expiry Date.......... 2005-05-14
Organisation Name.... Malachy Joyce
Organisation Address. 300 hampton green
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. staten islan
Organisation Address. 10312
Organisation Address. NY
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Malachy Joyce
Admin Address........ 300 hampton green
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ staten islan
Admin Address........ 10312
Admin Address........ NY
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... onemalj@msn.com
Admin Phone.......... +1.7189660370
Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact
Tech Address......... 701 First Ave.
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Sunnyvale
Tech Address......... 94089
Tech Address......... CA
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM
Tech Phone........... +1.6198813096
Tech Fax............. +1.6198813010
Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com
Name Server.......... yns2.yahoo.com

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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:52 AM
Response to Reply #94
97. Thank you.... hoo, boy. And now it begins..
Geez, just read a thread about tanks at a protest in LA, now this!
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:32 AM
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95. amusing how some are for freedom of speech till they hear something
they don't like the sound of.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:42 AM
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96. Does this person mean like REPUBLICAN TOM DELAY?
Who tried to pass a bill to NOT SUPPORT OUR TROOPS while they were in combat?

Or the FACT that Republicans cut defense spending under President Clinton and then rushed our troops to a war based on total bullshit WITHOUT ENOUGH RIFLES, ARMOR, BULLETS et al?

Here's LOTS of those rightwingnut quotes attacking CLinton and NOT supproting our troops when the President has a (D) after his name;

http://www.democrats.org/pdfs/gop_kosovo.pdf

But suddenly, when the president has an (R), then everything is different.

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:08 AM
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98. Only the beginning. Evil is ascendant in Amerika and the monsters are
stirring.

They have not forgot how they lived and what they did without consequence to African-Americans in the years from Recontrsuction to the 1960s. (and beyond, to a lesser degree)

But NOW, we are ALL the N(REDACTED)gers for the Bushevik Totalitarian Scum.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 07:04 AM
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99. Tanks for the memories
What about the tank thing? Hadn't heard.
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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:54 PM
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100. Now she's posted a letter to the Department of Homeland Security
http://hundredpercenter.blogspot.com/

What a nutcase. A scary nutcase, but a nutcase nonetheless.
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:59 PM
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101. The guy's a hack
better left to his own devices than giving him more fodder.
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