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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:14 PM
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why we will always be a minority party
Who can support leadership that licks Bush's boots like ours. From the Sunday talk shows:

the lone Dem on the Sunday shows, Sen.-elect Barack Obama. From NBC's Meet The Press:


...one of the things I told the president was that we all have a stake in seeing him have a successful presidency.I don't think that the Democrats succeed by rooting against the president in office.But we have to be honest where we disagree with him and he's got to make his case where he's presenting issues that we're skeptical about.

It's not just Obama showing softness. This is the party line.

Here's House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, in the weekly radio address:

I hope that in this term President Bush will fulfill his promise to be a uniter, not a divider. A new term is indeed a new opportunity to bring America together.
House Democrats stand ready to work with the President. Despite our divisions, there are many places where we should be able to agree.


Will you guys fight for anything? Remember how the repubs were when Clinton was in office? We have a bunch of lilly livered apologists.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:19 PM
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1. Democrats have been this way for decades now and it is sickening
The Dems started to slide to the Right in the mid-to late 70's and it has been downhill ever since. Now Conservative Democrats (New Democrat Caucus) outnumbers the liberal Progressive Caucus in our own party in Congress.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:33 PM
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2. Maybe Kerry Will Stand Up for Progressives
in D.C. He has said today that he will.
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vinnievin777 Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:36 PM
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3. All they are saying is
That we have to work together as Americans. They are not saying we have to agree with Bush when he is wrong.

Vinnie Vin
http://www.vinnievin.com
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:46 PM
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4. Sen.-Elect Obama
I don't think that Sen.-Elect Obama was being 'soft.' I think he was basically saying that when they can find common ground with the Repugs, then they will work with them. When they can't, they will call them out on their failed policies.
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:14 PM
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5. They were just being diplomatic.
Diplomacy is the art of telling someone to "Go to hell." in such a manner that they will rush to buy a ticket.

Look carefully at what they actually said. They are going to be fighting Bush very hard.
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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:24 PM
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6. Yeah, I remember how the Republicans were
their slash and burn politics earned Clinton a second term and netted the Democrats gains in congress for 3 straight cycles in a row, including 1998, the first time a president has picked up seats in his 6th year in a hundred years.

Being combative for the sake of being combative is a recipie for disaster.
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m berst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:28 PM
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7. I agree
Many Dems refuse to see this. The Democratic party is the abused spouse crawling back to the abuser again and again and making up endless rationalizations to justify that.

"Give him another chance. He didn't really mean it. He can't be THAT bad. It will be different in 2006. It was the machines, that's it! We will get rid of the machines. Maybe we did something wrong. We should have talked about values. I think he means it this time when he says he will be better. One more chance, but next time for sure we will put our foot down."
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:29 PM
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8. Another "why we will always be a minority party" thread
Whatever :eyes:
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