How many of you and your friends have adopted AIDs and Crack babies?

[efhmc]

This is the questions I always ask anti-choicers? What do you think the answer always is???

[eleny]

1. A blank stare

[efhmc]

3. Usually accompanied by a "huh"?

Close, they look at me as though I had sprouted horns. Take responsiblity for making choices for other people's lives. What the heck?

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

2. Holy Shit!

[efhmc]

4. Much too pure to use the words "holy" and "shit" together.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

5. Thats what you think - take em to a ghetto maternity ward and you'll see

[efhmc]

9. Their reality would never extend that far or otherwise they might

actually be able to see some truth and that would send them over the edge!

[BensMom]

6. How about

"We will adopt those crack babies right after we get back from spreading peace in Iraq.."

[efhmc]

8. Well, unfortunately, I starting saying that little tidbit even before we

had that lovely war going on.

[mamalone]

7. ummmm, I have...

Three of my kids are adopted..one has Down syndrome, one was born with positive toxicology for every drug they tested him for(he also has Down syndrome) and my youngest was alcohol and drug exposed. They are all great kids, and I'd adopt another little person in a nanosecond if I had the opportunity:grouphug:
Diane

[efhmc]

11. Yes, but obviously you are a very real and wonderful person!!!

You are not a hypocrite that talks one way and does nothing to change the reality of what is really here. Kisses to you for being a truly superb human being!!!

[mamalone]

16. Awwww, thanks...you're a sweetie!

:pals:

[TrustingDog]

10. how many of us have adopted that fact that life in the most...

freedomized rich country on the face of earth, for some, is so intolerable you have to be drugged to live with it?

[efhmc]

13. In my estimation it is because the reality of our daily lives and what we

see preached and advertised is so very, very different. Those of us who are sensitive need to be anesthetized to deal with that fact.

[TrustingDog]

15. true. One could feel very lacking with all the...

falsehoodness abounding about the 'american way'. How many movies have families that live in ridiculous mansioness real estate? I say most. Everyone else is upper crust and we feel like squatters.

and tv.. it solves every problem in a half hour... if it's a sitcom. But if it's News, it hides the problems.

[efhmc]

18. The media sets up a lifestyle that is unreal and disturbing unless one

is firmly grounded and can see these shows for the superficial entertainment that they are. To many that is not the case.

[TrustingDog]

21. It's planned that way.... What Is Wrong With You.. that...

you cannot succeed ( $$$$$ wise) in this wonderful cornucopia of advantage?

the program has been run for some time now and we are seeing the unbenefits of it, most of us. the rest just get fatheaded and lazyier and could care less about anything that isn't in front of their gluttoness tongues or their two working synapses that can comprehend working anything but a remote control for the teev. They just look for the burning bush messages. (I really don't Believe that, I think we outnumber the idiots by scores, but don't go voting on that now)

[efhmc]

23. That is why I like reading. One can create his/her own world and

without commercials. I am seriously thingking about getting rid of my cable. I almost never watch and when I do it is old sit-coms or old movies. They make me laugh and I do not take them seriously.

[TrustingDog]

27. I like to watch CNN so I know what the idiot fuckers are saying...

It's black comedy to me.

There is no better entertainment for me than to see them run out their forked tongues and roll them up the Bush camp filthy assholes and lick up. Exasperating, sure... but know thine enemy.

[efhmc]

32. Well, you can fight but I am needing some peace and CNN doesn't

do it for me. All I do is get mad and frustrated.

[TrustingDog]

40. peace is not on the program nowadays...

you may think you have it by ignoring the war machine assaulting us in every oriface we have...

keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer.

[philosophie_en_rose]

12. But aren't Jan and Paul Crouch saving the poor babies?

And what about "loving orphanages"??? Surely, republicans don't personally have to do anything. ;)

[efhmc]

14. I am not talking about send off a few bucks (although I laud that

effort), (BTW, I know you are being sarcastic.)I mean living the daily, poop diapers, screaming, long nights, etc of talking care of another human. Where are those crusaders when we really need them? Can you imagine that spoiled frat boy taking care of a special needs child, too overwhelming for any words to do it justice.

[philosophie_en_rose]

31. Look, it's all the babies' fault.

What those babies need to do is pull themselves up by the bootstraps... or at least booty-straps. Babies today are too spoiled by liberal socialism such as free milk and holding. Fact is -- the baby generation is damned spoiled. Look at those Olsen twins; you didn't see them needing to leech off hard-earned dollars from the taxpayers. :P

Seriously, there are a million Freeper talking points that are specifically designed to preclude the need to do anything more than judge and complain.

[efhmc]

36. Okay, I will put the blame where it belongs. Those *** babies.

When they ever learn?

[undergroundpanther]

17. hmmm

One of my freinds(he's gay ,already has a gay son he raised)also adopted a crack/aids baby.( His adopted child is deaf and had mental retardation,too..He is a teen now.Still is in a wheelchair, He was abused in the foster care system,and he is very small for his age and has had brain damage from it.Talk about parents who suck!
He talks by giving eye signals and his head movements ,and he's a sweetheart too.
This Guy's family takes in special needs kids.And they love all of them.

What gets me is I think if fundies bother to adopt special needs kids I think they would pray over him wishing he'd be'normal'and stop being 'burdensome'.A fundies love of"disapline" might not make them capable of caring for them ,listening to them or talk to them like a human beings.Too many disabled people become church piety displays or get to be used as a token disabled person to make the church look'inclusive'or'tolerant'.

I have seen fundy churches exploit or ignore disabled people,and they don't treat them as equal people to themselves,It's sickening.
Fundies cry over abortion but they don't adopt anyone unless they are guarunteed to get to cram religion down a kids throat and they think beating thier child when the kid doesent obey them is a good for them.
I think anyone who believes sparing the rod spoils a child is an unfit parent who's having a tempertantrum being the control freak,failing at the job of parenting,and taking it out on a kid like a bully asshole.

Christian rightwing and evangelicals are the worst moral relativists,they have no clue what real EVIL is,and they deny thier own immorality..Fundies are morally comprimised on the one thing that is wrong and radically evil in this world torture and domination. Too many christians already excuse hell as a good and just thing,when really it is sick...Some rightwingers really think of Abu Gharib torture as a prank,when it was/is a war crime like what Hitler would do..And fundies who call beating a child,good 'disapline for them are bully assholes who don't deserve to be around kids ..
Bully fundies have been known to "beat the devil" out of kids. The evidence for this in thier sick narcissistic minds is "disobedience" to thier domination,failure to submit to the house tyrant usually the male who thinks the bible gives him the excuse to be a bully asshole(convienently) like his god is..

Fundie rightwingers are compliciut with evil they are moral relativists and should not be consulted on ANY issues of right and wrong in a sane society~ever.The bible is a 2000 year old bookj written by a primitive tribe and it was added to by a persecuted small time political/apocolypse cult that was some of the branches of the wider gnostic movement.It isn't a treatese on moral behavior .Everytime Christians get in control of a society people are killed in large numbers.

Christians,especially fundamentalists odf any stripe are NOT ethical,moral,sane and they are complicit with evil.
If you think people deserve eternal torment(torture) for not believing in YOUR god,than you are a moral relativist and know NOTHING about what having moral compass really means.

[efhmc]

20. Wow, a long, thoughtful and on the mark reply. I must admit that I really

do know some Christians that do walk the walk in taking care of others, including children. They are much, much truer than I will ever be, but it not those type I am talking about. The ones I know have raised their perfect little white bread children and they and their offspring have and are living the life of ease and yet they have the NERVE to tell others how to live their lives without taking a speck of responsibility for the poor darlings that are left here to cope, virtually by themselves. Shame and shame and shame and shame on them!!

[Endangered Specie]

19. A George Caril original there eh?

edit: A: That would be something Christ would do!

[efhmc]

22. I'm sure I am showing my stupidity but do not understand that reference.

Help, please.

[Endangered Specie]

28. Carlin is a famous (dirty), and suprisingly wise comic...

who bashes everyone, especially the right...


He mentioned the lack of pro-lifers adopting sick/crack babies as a point of ironic hypocracy (he was bashing pro-lifers) and he said (bc he really likes to throw shit at the rel. right) that that would be something only Christ would do.

[efhmc]

33. Ah, now I see. Thanks.

[The Minus World]

24. Checkmate. n/t

.

[bleedingheart]

25. I have seen those poor babes in the NICU

when my youngest was in the NICU after her birth we visited her all the time. One day I noticed in the transitional unit that there were at least 5 babies who got no visitors. Those babies had been abandoned by their mothers and because of various issues, drug addiction..etc they were not "marketable". It pained the nurses as much as it pained me to see them unloved. Now some people would come in to hold those babes but they needed more than that, where are the people who wanted them to be born????

[efhmc]

30. The tragedy of that is mind boggling. Those little dears should be

taken every day to the RW Baptist, Cahtolic, whatever churches that are preaching the message of birth at all costs and those members should be required to care for them! They can not help being here but since they are, they deserve all the love and help that they should have.

[Doohickie]

26. How many of you and your friends have adopted AIDs and Crack babies?

None. How 'bout you?

[efhmc]

29. Well, that actually is not true but it is not my point, oh great

unuterused one. My point is that I believe in the right to have control over ones own body and destiny or in other words: ABORTION. I have worked with those unwanted, abused, neglected, tortured children and I BELIEVE that they would have been better off not being born and I believe that those who are here should be taken care of and preferably by those that SCREAM to high heavens that they should be born but do nothing to take care of them after they are here!!!

[Doohickie]

39. My point was that I can't really ask that, since I myself haven't

adopted any crack babies.

We looked into it, actually, and decided for various reasons that we might not be able to handle it as a family. I admire those who take that plunge, especially since we peered over the edge, then backed away.

[efhmc]

41. What a rude answer. I apologize. I could not do it, not only because I

am a GM and past the age but because I wasn't all that patient with my own lovely, normal daughters. It is the hypocricy I was trying to shine a light on. Goodness, they are some awfully wonderful people here on DU. Much better and stronger than I am. Sorry, if I sounded flippant.

[Doohickie]

44. No offense was taken.

It's cool.

[Bjornsdotter]

34. A friend of mine

Adopted a baby with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome...but then again she's a Liberal.

Cheers,
Kim :toast:

[efhmc]

37. A person who lives what she says, Indeed, that is a liberal.

[leesa]

35. I would bet it is .099% of these moral MoFos.

Talk is real cheap for them. After all, all Bush had to do was state he was a christian and they bought it. How easy was that??

[efhmc]

38. Not only a Christian but a born again Christian. As one of my pastors

used to say, if it didn't take the first time, why do you think it will take the second time. (Liberal, intelligent Lutheran, not MS, of course.)

[Glenda]

42. Good answer!

[Rhiannon12866]

43. I actually know of two families who have

Adopted crack babies, that is.:shrug: